Micro 892: TemporalLich's Micro Normal [Game Over]

[Saudade]

This is an easy solve

[Datisi]

@icon
on wagon was {Locke/Sau, Bella, Icon, Dong, Klick}
off wagon was {me, Mena, Vex, Chem}

Going from on wagon since Chem is dead, I'm TRing Mena, and from a quick skim from Vex's iso it doesn't seem they were pushing the Chem lynch while being off-wagon (tho I am interested in their case against sau/locke).

Bella and Icon, barring some extreme bs, are pretty Town. Nothing's been said about Klick that makes me wanna lynch him rn, since just the being on-wagon isn't that convincing. Leaves Sau and Dong. I still heavily dislike the vast majority of Dong's play, but at this point I don't even know what to make of all the claims. Sau's just... there. Doing... nothing?

pedit: yo Sau enlighten us then?

[Iconeum]

I've been in this game for a few days and it's pretty evident that there are some people genuinely game solving this game, and some people are just going through the motions

I would genuinly like to sheep you here

speak

[Vex Vience]

ico, what has saude done to solve the game so far? they've just sat around and posted jackshit. it's one of the major reasons i havent bothered with the case yet because their playstyle is so obviously scummy yet everyone is acting like they're confirmed.

[Donempire]

VOTE: Datisi
Not likely. The crumb sets up a nice claim but im not seeing how a game with 4 Town Prs is balanced.
Leaving that aside, what does a neighbor enabler do? Whos your neighbor?

[Donempire]

ico, what has saude done to solve the game so far? they've just sat around and posted jackshit. it's one of the major reasons i havent bothered with the case yet because their playstyle is so obviously scummy yet everyone is acting like they're confirmed.

Its nai. With so many obvscum around and you also havent even given a proper case on him

[Datisi]

I don't have a Neighbor, I'm a Neighbor Enabler.
...crap i gotta paraphrase this
If/when I die, Neighbors are no longer able to privately communicate

[Donempire]

Like, you've said before that you don't get why dong would play around you specifically, but I think it makes quite a lot of sense if you look at dong's play overall. Goes after getting a TR from you D1 and plans to lock that in by killing you, then after you get saved and become conf!town pushes for someone who isn't their biggest SR (!) by going after dats -- incidentally, why do you think the push dong made today is in good faith if you're TRing dats? Then tomorrow they've got you pocketed to take their pick of who they wanna push tomorrow between me/klick/VV (prob me and working on the basis that saud is the more likely partner). So they only need to convince 1 of klick (maybe saud)/VV to vote for me along with you and get a quickhammer off for the win

Lets say that i did all of these. In that same night i "rolecop" (not even what i claimed) bella, also try to kill ico, who im trying to pocket, then instead of shutting up about it and killing Bella at night i make a ruckus, and tell ico my night result in the neighbourhood without anyone asking me in the thread.
Why?
If im pocketing hım i dont try to kill hım,
I never claim masons while ico iş getting lynched because chemist is already an easy mislynch for tomorrow,
I dont confirm both myself, ico and Bella with my night action.
I dont do anything you say that would make sense as scum.

[Iconeum]

ico, what has saude done to solve the game so far? they've just sat around and posted jackshit. it's one of the major reasons i havent bothered with the case yet because their playstyle is so obviously scummy yet everyone is acting like they're confirmed.

i'd argue this is very much his town playstyle

[Menalque]

Like, you've said before that you don't get why dong would play around you specifically, but I think it makes quite a lot of sense if you look at dong's play overall. Goes after getting a TR from you D1 and plans to lock that in by killing you, then after you get saved and become conf!town pushes for someone who isn't their biggest SR (!) by going after dats -- incidentally, why do you think the push dong made today is in good faith if you're TRing dats? Then tomorrow they've got you pocketed to take their pick of who they wanna push tomorrow between me/klick/VV (prob me and working on the basis that saud is the more likely partner). So they only need to convince 1 of klick (maybe saud)/VV to vote for me along with you and get a quickhammer off for the win

Lets say that i did all of these. In that same night i "rolecop" (not even what i claimed) bella, also try to kill ico, who im trying to pocket, then instead of shutting up about it and killing Bella at night i make a ruckus, and tell ico my night result in the neighbourhood without anyone asking me in the thread.
Why?
If im pocketing hım i dont try to kill hım,
I never claim masons while ico iş getting lynched because chemist is already an easy mislynch for tomorrow,
I dont confirm both myself, ico and Bella with my night action.
I dont do anything you say that would make sense as scum.

Like, you've said before that you don't get why dong would play around you specifically, but I think it makes quite a lot of sense if you look at dong's play overall. Goes after getting a TR from you D1 and plans to lock that in by killing you, then after you get saved and become conf!town pushes for someone who isn't their biggest SR (!) by going after dats -- incidentally, why do you think the push dong made today is in good faith if you're TRing dats? Then tomorrow they've got you pocketed to take their pick of who they wanna push tomorrow between me/klick/VV (prob me and working on the basis that saud is the more likely partner). So they only need to convince 1 of klick (maybe saud)/VV to vote for me along with you and get a quickhammer off for the win

why does Dong bother fake!claiming masons and get a shitstorm over him to stop my lynch from happening if his plan is to NK me anyway? You are literally saying he set me up as conftown only to NK me?

yeah that is kinda weird lemme think about it

[Iconeum]

VOTE: Datisi
Not likely. The crumb sets up a nice claim but im not seeing how a game with 4 Town Prs is balanced.
Leaving that aside, what does a neighbor enabler do? Whos your neighbor?

and what scum (fake) claims PR nr 4 like that? what does that achieve?

[Klick]

I'm a VT.

Doctor/Messenger/Neighbor-Enabler (with a town-scum neighborhood)... My gut says this is scumsided.
Follower makes a bit more sense as a Town role here imo. And it makes sense theoretically - if the Enabler dies then the Messenger still has a way of communicating results with the Follower.
Throw in something like a Mafia Traffic Analyst and you have a wacky-yet-balanced setup.

[Klick]

Okay Klick and Datisi

Why don't the both of you make a PoE list with the currently available information?

Tbh at this point I just think the scumteam is Vex/Saudade. Datisi's claim is super clean and I don't think it's scum.

VOTE: Vex

[Klick]

VC 1.12

Chemist1422 (5) - Locke113, Bellaphant, Klick, Iconeum, Dongempire

[LYNCH!]

Dongempire (4) - Datisi, Vex Vience, Menalque, Chemist1422

[L-1]

Not voting:

With 9 alive it takes 5 to lynch.

Day 1 will end in (expired on 2019-10-02 15:00:00) or when a lynch is reached.

Menalque is V/LA until Wednesday evening.

And, on top of that PoE, who should we lynch ON-wagon based off of that information? Because what are the odds this is an all-town lynch?

Ignoring PoE I'd actually say the odds of Chemist being an all-town lynch are high enough,

especially

if Dong is town. The wagons were 5/4 and you/Bella are clear. Do you think scum needed to join a Chemist wagon in order to push their agenda yesterday?

[Donempire]

I saw what you posted menal. No need to requote it.

I assume at this point that scum definitely have a pr. Its not doc because scumdoc is useless and i know im Town. I assume that ıts something strong like a rolecop or escort since we have two town prs and i believe your claim so i doubt you're scum. That leaves Datisi to be the scum pr to claim.
Now there is a problem in that a lightkeeper role like she claimed is just as stupid of a scum pr as doc is. I think she fakeclaimed a role like that to discourage us both specifically from voting her.
That said maybe the scum pr just havent claimed and im grasping. Problem is this only leaves menal and heaven to be scum and im getting town vibes as of Kate. İll think about the crumb for a bit, but i will definitely consider her as a possible lynch

[Donempire]

Your claim was meant to address ico, i wrote this 2 hours before and i didnt revise it

[Donempire]

UNVOTE:

This was in response to me claiming masons with ico. If you were neighbour enabler like you said, why did you unvote here? You'd either know i was lying since you know there is a neighbourhood or just be vary about the claim, instead of just unvoting.

[Saudade]

@Datisi and Ico
I'm already voting boys my stance is clear.
his progression and fos this day has been dishonest and fabricated

[Saudade]

ico, what has saude done to solve the game so far? they've just sat around and posted jackshit. it's one of the major reasons i havent bothered with the case yet because their playstyle is so obviously scummy yet everyone is acting like they're confirmed.

Be careful son you're coming at the king here, my exam season is over do not inspire me to chew you out

[Saudade]

VOTE: Datisi
Not likely. The crumb sets up a nice claim but im not seeing how a game with 4 Town Prs is balanced.
Leaving that aside, what does a neighbor enabler do? Whos your neighbor?

Why do you think out of all the 4 PRs its Datisi who is fake?

[Saudade]

ico, what has saude done to solve the game so far? they've just sat around and posted jackshit. it's one of the major reasons i havent bothered with the case yet because their playstyle is so obviously scummy yet everyone is acting like they're confirmed.

i'd argue this is very much his town

hardstyle

[Saudade]

ico, what has saude done to solve the game so far? they've just sat around and posted jackshit. it's one of the major reasons i havent bothered with the case yet because their playstyle is so obviously scummy yet everyone is acting like they're confirmed.

i'd argue this is very much his town

hardstyle

[Saudade]

oops i double posted

[Saudade]

Okay Klick and Datisi

Why don't the both of you make a PoE list with the currently available information?

Tbh at this point I just think the scumteam is Vex/Saudade. Datisi's claim is super clean and I don't think it's scum.

VOTE: Vex

I dont like the post but the vote makes me happy so we gucci

[Datisi]

@Klick, you say you think the team is Vex/Sau, but then that the Day 1 wagon had high enough odds of being all-Town?