In post 784, Donempire wrote:And i trust icos claim, think he is town and dont see a reason for scum to have a whisperer.
As i said i dont see a reason for scum to have a enabler either but im still thinking about it.
why the assumption that scum PR is gonna claim PR - especially the one they are?
I will straight up disregard all reason if you have a PR dream again. You can come back and be like, “I dreamt that Locke is a N2 Bulletproof Multitasking Cop and Self-Targeting Doctor,” and I will go, “Okay, Locke kill it is then.”
In post 780, Datisi wrote:Eh, it's very unlikely I think, but definitely possible.
Well assuming you're town it's significantly less possible - the only option left for two scum off the wagon is Vex/Menalque
Thoughts on PR stuff? I struggle to see the balance in Doctor/Messenger/Neighbor-Enabler being the only town power (unless anyone else is planning on claiming).
Well yes, that's why I said I think it's very unlikely
uhhhh, I don't even know anymore tbh. Maybe it was wrong of me to be trying to break the setup, especially since i have very little knowledge of closeds (is that even the right plural form?). Like, I kept thinking whether it would MecHaNiCalLy be more likely for the Neighborhood to be T/T or S/T... And I've frankly no idea.
Tho the more I think about Dong's actions, the less sense scum!Dong makes. UNVOTE:
I will straight up disregard all reason if you have a PR dream again. You can come back and be like, “I dreamt that Locke is a N2 Bulletproof Multitasking Cop and Self-Targeting Doctor,” and I will go, “Okay, Locke kill it is then.”
Vex, have you started the case at least? And can you answer 689?
I will straight up disregard all reason if you have a PR dream again. You can come back and be like, “I dreamt that Locke is a N2 Bulletproof Multitasking Cop and Self-Targeting Doctor,” and I will go, “Okay, Locke kill it is then.”
Haha you'd almost think i do these things on purpose, amiright?
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funny thing is
the majority is still 5
it isn't even L-1
I will straight up disregard all reason if you have a PR dream again. You can come back and be like, “I dreamt that Locke is a N2 Bulletproof Multitasking Cop and Self-Targeting Doctor,” and I will go, “Okay, Locke kill it is then.”
no, i explained earlier that i have a group project due soon and none of my group partners have done anything.
im seeing klick!scum over datisi!scum because i played as scum with you, first off, but second off, while i could see neighborhood enabler being mafia-aligned, i really doubt it over the vt claim.
"I preach darkness. I don't inspire hope—only shadows. It's up to you to find the light in my words." ~ Charles Lee
"The cosmos is all that is, or ever was, or ever will be." ~ Carl Sagan
yeah, i got it, i was just asking since you said "fully flesh out" if you've started it
and I'm aware you did
I will straight up disregard all reason if you have a PR dream again. You can come back and be like, “I dreamt that Locke is a N2 Bulletproof Multitasking Cop and Self-Targeting Doctor,” and I will go, “Okay, Locke kill it is then.”
In post 806, Vex Vience wrote:no, i explained earlier that i have a group project due soon and none of my group partners have done anything.
im seeing klick!scum over datisi!scum because i played as scum with you, first off, but second off, while i could see neighborhood enabler being mafia-aligned, i really doubt it over the vt claim.
sounds like you need all the time you can get, may I suggest you self vote and rid yourself of this horrible time consuming game!!
Passion or coincidence once prompted you to say
"Pride will tear us both apart"
Well, now pride's gone out the window
Cross the rooftops, run away
'while i could see neighborhood enabler being mafia-aligned, i really doubt it over the vt claim.' vex, can you reword this?
I think my lynchpool has to be vex/saude, with datisi and then mena as outside shots. I'm not lynching klick or icon at all. Dong I'm just really hoping to be correct on.
I've been giving the locke slot too much credit for admitting that they made a mistake about me, but after thinking, therr is nothing else they could have done if they were scum over town. Otherwise I agree with whoever said they were using a lot of words to discuss not very much.
In post 784, Donempire wrote:And i trust icos claim, think he is town and dont see a reason for scum to have a whisperer.
As i said i dont see a reason for scum to have a enabler either but im still thinking about it.
why the assumption that scum PR is gonna claim PR - especially the one they are?
I guess it is because its a closed setup and claiming a pr would theoretically give scum a better chance at winning? Also scum would be able to back it up with crumbs/night reports if they claim their real role. Maybe im thinking too much into this however. UNVOTE:
Im not lynching you , i was hasty with the read. Its probably menal/vex anyway. Saudade im not seeing still.
PROXY: Ico
You should now have 2 votes including mine so go nuts
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Formerly Dongempire
Ah, right. I was asking because I vaguely remember reading a theory piece about scum fakeclaims in closed setups - why it's generally more advantageous for Goons to claim Town PR's and for scum PR's to claim VT. I'll link it if anyone cares/I find it again.
Also, I didn't see a thing about proxy votes in the mod's rules, and Icon's target isn't on L-1. Why not just vote them normally?
I will straight up disregard all reason if you have a PR dream again. You can come back and be like, “I dreamt that Locke is a N2 Bulletproof Multitasking Cop and Self-Targeting Doctor,” and I will go, “Okay, Locke kill it is then.”
In post 708, Menalque wrote:
Like, you've said before that you don't get why dong would play around you specifically, but I think it makes quite a lot of sense if you look at dong's play overall. Goes after getting a TR from you D1 and plans to lock that in by killing you, then after you get saved and become conf!town pushes for someone who isn't their biggest SR (!) by going after dats -- incidentally, why do you think the push dong made today is in good faith if you're TRing dats? Then tomorrow they've got you pocketed to take their pick of who they wanna push tomorrow between me/klick/VV (prob me and working on the basis that saud is the more likely partner). So they only need to convince 1 of klick (maybe saud)/VV to vote for me along with you and get a quickhammer off for the win
Lets say that i did all of these. In that same night i "rolecop" (not even what i claimed) bella, also try to kill ico, who im trying to pocket, then instead of shutting up about it and killing Bella at night i make a ruckus, and tell ico my night result in the neighbourhood without anyone asking me in the thread.
Why?
If im pocketing hım i dont try to kill hım,
I never claim masons while ico iş getting lynched because chemist is already an easy mislynch for tomorrow,
I dont confirm both myself, ico and Bella with my night action.
I dont do anything you say that would make sense as scum.
In post 708, Menalque wrote:Like, you've said before that you don't get why dong would play around you specifically, but I think it makes quite a lot of sense if you look at dong's play overall. Goes after getting a TR from you D1 and plans to lock that in by killing you, then after you get saved and become conf!town pushes for someone who isn't their biggest SR (!) by going after dats -- incidentally, why do you think the push dong made today is in good faith if you're TRing dats? Then tomorrow they've got you pocketed to take their pick of who they wanna push tomorrow between me/klick/VV (prob me and working on the basis that saud is the more likely partner). So they only need to convince 1 of klick (maybe saud)/VV to vote for me along with you and get a quickhammer off for the win
why does Dong bother fake!claiming masons and get a shitstorm over him to stop my lynch from happening if his plan is to NK me anyway? You are literally saying he set me up as conftown only to NK me?
yeah that is kinda weird lemme think about it
Bc dong and icon are right that this doesn’t make sense with scum!dong and I can’t think of a gambit where this fits with him being scum
Further extrapolate that my actions today/at the end of D1 make very little sense from the perspective of scum with either Vex or Saudade, and you arrive at the solve.
Further extrapolate that my actions today/at the end of D1 make very little sense from the perspective of scum with either Vex or Saudade, and you arrive at the solve.
I’ll reread that but do you see why I’m kind of uneasy about how retain you’ve seemed on dong v me being TvT the whole time while most other people have at least had doubts at one point or another about at least one of us?
I can understand that point of view. And honestly, on a surface level, I could easily see myself wanting to keep you and Dong around and fighting as long as possible if I were scum and you two were town. It's what I said scum would be wanting to do towards the end of yesterday.
It wouldn't look quite like this though. I've actively argued towards this eventual PoE pool that includes myself (and presumably my partner). If I'm scum, I've argued myself into a losing position under the current assumptions when things would otherwise have been going just fine. I can't really see myself doing that.
