Open 769: Venrob's PYP X/Y (Town Wins)

[rb]

VOTE: Xayah

choo choo

[rb]

not lynching aaron today either

won't lynch day1: Luca, skitter, nom, aaron
preferred lynch: xayah or kerset

everything else up for discussion

also:

choo choo!

[rb]

Ok, can you summarize your reasons for why rb should be today’s Lynch?

Rb doesn't care about lynching scum, he wants pull a wagon that will finish D1. Town player would in at least some degree doubt his meta read and try to look at other people interactions. Rb only asks other people about me to push them on my wagon, he didn't even care about nom3 theories at all (604), for him his SR aaron was positive addition to wagon (372). He is trying to bias town by repeating the same read few times without adding any value, when meantime he could just face thing like 230 (reference 232, 235).
If you read between his lines you will that he gives town points for diving deep against someone so scum!rb would definitely try to emulate a town play with something like that.

yes this is what confident town players look like

since the only variable you can actually rely on day1 is yourself unless someone is playing ultra obvtown or you somehow have a conftown day1, you should trust your own reads and reasoning more than others until something that invalidates your read comes up (if it ever does)

@skitter: what did you think of reading kerset's previous games?

[rb]

hey kerset if you join me on the xayah wagon you might get towncred when she flips scum (=

[rb]

wait why are we voting aaron, he only just started to goodpost

[rb]

I don't think you have any way to point me as scum right now so I would also be interested in seeing a wagon attempt on me.

gogogo

wagon this

[Wooper]

not lynching aaron today either

won't lynch day1: Luca, skitter, nom, aaron
preferred lynch: xayah or kerset

everything else up for discussion

also:

choo choo!

you forgot me :{
what do you like about noms?

VOTE: xayah

[Kerset]

hey kerset if you join me on the xayah wagon you might get towncred when she flips scum (=

ask wooper you may convince him with breadcrumbs

[nomnomnom]

rb tell me why Aaron tells us he has interest in voting in Kerset or Xayah yet decides to park his vote on Xayah, a player that has no votes on her, instead of a person that has 4 votes on him.

pedit: what???

[nomnomnom]

Guys what are you doing? Are we going to ignore dodgy players just like that?

[Kerset]

Guys what are you doing? Are we going to ignore dodgy players just like that?

I could agree to pressure Suji, if you are interested.

[skitter30]

You don't need to write a novel. But I at least thought you'd give a sentence or two. Your reasoning holds no water until you can give that. I think the only reason people can 'suspect' me is because of the playstyle I'm choosing to go with this game. But, I'll wait and see.
pedit: See that's a start. To answer your point: A) Yes it was apart of a bandwagon B) If I was scum-mmm I won't go down that path it's wifom and not many people care to listen.
What makes me wanting to jump onto the wagon scummy? Do you not believe my reason?

you barely mentioned billy before and jumped on the wagon for information when the wagon existed when we're not really ready to end the day or anything, it's not like it was a compromise deadline lynch ...
i mean, should i be townreading this or

[Wooper]

i'm letting myself backseat even more for right now due to recently finished games

[skitter30]

i can kinda see an aaron/billy thing

[skitter30]

VOTE: Xayah because I forgot to in my other posts.

you're voting xayah over kerset here because ...

[Wooper]

@mod proxy vote to skitter please

if you allow this kinda thing

[skitter30]

won't lynch day1: Luca, skitter, nom, aaron

why are me and aaron out of your lynch pool?

[skitter30]

@mod proxy vote to skitter please

if you allow this kinda thing

i don't have motivation to solve this or ~try hard~ rn :/

[skitter30]

@skitter: what did you think of reading kerset's previous games?

nothing much

i don't think the games are as drastically different as you portrayed them to be

[Sirfetchd]

cmon duck really. Skit is A-Grade garbage posting.

[skitter30]

i'm kinda skeeved out by both aaron and xayah but i don't think they're scum together

[skitter30]

cmon duck really. Skit is A-Grade garbage posting.

do tell

[nomnomnom]

Surely when I close my eyes the bad dream ends, we lynch aaron and flip a scum and we all have a good laugh

[skitter30]

i feel like i want to vote all of aaron, xayah, and billy, that's kinda why i'm feeling slightly ~anxious~ about the gamestate rn

[Luca Blight]

Spoiler:

I'm having posting problems so near with me:

@Luca on 762-
Man, I was thinking you were town earlier, but now I'm not sure. I think I've lynched actual scum maybe 3 or 4 times in my multiple months playing here. And I drove the bus on one of them and it was based on how the player sheeped a vote on D1. In all my late day plays I guess wrong on who the last scum is. And you described my town game as good? What are you talking about? I think you happened to see that newbie game where I got Spangled but that's literally the only time I got scum right. So for you to characterize my town game as good feels wrong. TW and Kerset were in a game where some of the dead people thought I was obvtown, but I dont even do a good job of that when I'm trying to play that way normally. Now Luca, that point about my questions feeling shallow, I've heard that one before, and its during my town games. How were they shallow though? I was looking forward progressions and giving people a chance to explain inconsistencies. If I was looking to just jump on it, couldn't I have hopped on Aaron?

Not finding scum every time doesn’t mean your town play isn’t good. I feel that the way you’ve approached the game in your town games is much better than the scum game and this game. In the newbie game you made yourself obvtown and were killed N1 as a result. In the Jackal mini game you were suspected more but you were game-solving in a much more flexible and transparent way, which is why I townread you throughout. In your scum game you were a lot more like this - falling behind and feeling more distant - not actively trying to solve the game like in the other mini game. You were townread due to the tests, but your overall play was not on the same level as your Town game.

As for your questions, I don’t think I used the word ‘shallow’? I believe I called them pointless, which is slightly different. I don’t think they’re of any real consequence to what’s happening for the most part, such as when you asked me ages after the event why I thought Kerset/rb wasn’t svs. It felt like a question for the sake of it rather than having any game-solving intent behind it.