Secret Hitler (Game Over)

[Datisi]

Idk what I think we should do is try to force a lib triangle between FF me and someone from 2/3/4

And bet on one of thise being not hitler

[Datisi]

Also are we not also p fucked if we have a hitty presi because unless they draw BBR they can pass RR and shoot a lib

If oka did that and outed himself as the last fascist then we have game.

No, because we wouldn't know who was telling the truth there

Plus even if oka was conffasc from that it's 3v3

[Menalque]

Dats what is your read on me?

[Menalque]

I think there are good odds this game is fucked if you and FF think I’m fash here

[Datisi]

Dweller cleared egix which means that he had to because egix is actually liberal, or dweller knew egix was fascist but if he knew he was fascist and wouldn't out his false clear then we'd know that egix isn't hitty and most likely is just liberal and dweller is fascist.

also I genuinely don't fucking get this either

[Datisi]

I think,,,

Extuna and Meanquebec are not of the same political opinion

I'm still sorta on this I think?

But I don't see how, from lib!Mena pov the game is fucked if lib!Dats and lib!FF think you're fash?

because if we're trying to get a triangle 7 is not getting in anyway?

[Menalque]

Because that means we’re choosing in (egix, vex, oka) for either presi— who can shoot a lib and we’re going to rand

Or Hitler as I’m p sure that dweller isn’t so it’s gg

Like there is only 1 good choice in that list of 3 I’m p sure, and it’s just as likely to be gg as it is to pick that person

Plus is ff is lib then he’s gonna vote against a you pres/me chancellor govt and with 3 fash that’ll be enough

And as we’d have to nein to five whoever you pick is the final chance we get to vote someone vs random it

[Datisi]

Nah mate, I'm gonna be the president, and since I'm "conf!lib" only a fascist can die from the gun

picking a fasc chancellor is really not that bad

since he either has to out himself for me to shoot him or pass a blue and lose the game

[Menalque]

Why would 7 not fit in as a triangle? Which is also besides the point because it’s prooooooobably gg

Bc either we hit the last blue in which case we win

Or we hit 3R in which case you shoot dweller and the final govt is you and FF with 1 blue left and we’re winning if you’re both lib


Like the only case we’re in major trouble in here is if dweller/egix drew BBR and dropped both blues in which case we’re at 6R left in

[Datisi]

because you usually can't go from 1 pres to 5 pres without td

and i'm not sure i'd be picking you anyway

and we're not necessarily in major trouble then since egix would also be outted as fash in that case and FF shoots him

only problem then arises if FF was fash who dropped this round but i'm willing to bet against that

[Vex Vience]

1) dweller neining is odd.
2) mena shouldn't be chans.
3) fasc-fasc conflict "confirms" one of the fascists as liberal, therefore guaranteeing one of them in the later govs.
4) tding could work, but not preferable.
5) to simplify what ff said: dweller inv'd egix, and claimed lib, either because egix is legit lib, or they're both fasc. if they're both fasc, and dweller doesn't give a lib result, we know egix can't be hitty. from that, we can pretty much assume egix lib, dweller fasc.

@ff correct me if im wrong.

6)

@mod v/la weekends

[Vex Vience]

datisi, you aren't confirmed lib. you're cnh. doesn't mean you're lib.
from play, odds are you are lib, but being cnh doesn't confirm you.
plus, you're gonna always be chans when we can pick you.

[Datisi]

I was more going off what Mena said earlier, ik I'm not conflib

Why is dweller neining odd? After he realized he was supposed to be in conf with me, he had no choice but to chnage the vote lul

[Menalque]

Datisi is de facto conf!lib which is what I said

Because she’s not Hitler and I don’t think her play makes any fucking sense as fash

[OkaPoka]

U still don't trust me

[OkaPoka]

No worries, we can td until we run fish-dats

[OkaPoka]

Egix can't be Hitler?

[Menalque]

No worries, we can td until we run fish-dats

Ngl that sounds like a horrible idea chief

[Menalque]

Who shoots if we td a red? Or no one does?

[Datisi]

We can't ffdats again

Term limits

[OkaPoka]

You can if you td

[Egix96]

Who shoots if we td a red? Or no one does?

Pretty sure no one does, since there's technically no pres to use the power

[Datisi]

Election Tracker: If the group rejects three governments in a row, the country is thrown into chaos. Immediately reveal the Policy on top of the Policy deck and enact it. Any power granted by this Policy is ignored, but the Election Tracker resets,

and existing term-limits are forgotten. All players become eligible to hold the office of Chancellor for the next Election.

ok shit we theoretically could nein til 1, td then FF/dats again

ok lemme run some numbers real quick

[Datisi]

Okay, so last reshuffe we were at 3B and 9R

I'm gonna do this whole thing under the assumption of lib!FF

because honestly

Egix/dweller - R passed, claimed RRR/RR
FF/Datisi - B passed, claimed RRB/RB

An interesting thing here is that Egix is "cleared" by dweller. So I think either they're in this together or Egix genuinely got RRR

if Egix actually did get RRR:

- Now it's 2B and 4R in the deck
- td gives us 1/3 chance outright
- if td R then it's 2B and 3R left for the FF/dats govt - very very likely that either the td or FF/dats is B is Egix got RRR

if Egix got RRB and dropped:

- 1B 5R
- td 1/6 chance of winning
- if td R 1B 4R for the FF/dats govt

if Egix got RBB and double-dropped:

- 6R left
- td R 100% of the time
- FF/dats draw RRR 100% of the time

if both td and FF/dats pass R:

- deck reshuffled
- i think if it comes down to this scenario it makes it v unlikely that Egix got RRR, which would very close to conf!fash both Egix and dweller
- FF gets the gun, hitty dies 1/5 time randomly (more if we assume >rand reads, the likelihood of Egix being hitty and wtv)
- but if hitty doesn't die, it's 2B and 6R, and both me and FF are locked out of the govt
- then we need to find the remaining fash in {oka, vex, mena} and make the govt with the other 2 if we wanna win
- say we manage to figure it out, either the govt gets at least one blue and it passes, or they draw RRR, veto, and we pray that when we td in the remaining 2B and 3R a B passes

okay if this word salad i just spat out is correct i like this plan

[Datisi]

No worries, we can td until we run fish-dats

Ngl that sounds like a horrible idea chief

read my above post and then reevaluate