Big Four Mafia! Game Over!

[TrueSoulEnergy]

I’m going to expand on question 1.
How in the actual world, did I get lynched so quickly and so suddenly near EOD?
If I recall everyone was only slight scum to Neutral with me on their reads.
It was so painfully sudden, that I didn’t even get the chance to claim.
Seriously, what went through y’all’s minds?

I didn’t vote you.
You were Null for me and I felt jjh, Flubbernugget or BS were better lynches.
Mainly Flubbernugget as he’s Obv Scum.
Alchemist is leaning scum for me too, after I seen his visit.

You saw me visit him and then I voted him out of the gate before you said anything. How do you interpret that any other way than investigative with a guilty?

TP that didn’t heal them and said “They could be scum then” and voted against them.

[Alchemist21]

That makes no sense.

[TrueSoulEnergy]

That makes no sense.

How so?
TP protects someone but they were never attacked.
They vote them the next day to test their reaction.
How does this not make sense to you?

[Alchemist21]

The second part. If I’m protecting someone it means I already Townread them and don’t need to reaction test just because I didn’t stop the kill. And for fucks sake as a Doc I’m not going to be interested in their claim. Nothing about the way I played this should say “Protective role” to anyone.

[Alchemist21]

Spoiler: All the Lavender Votes in Order

It's cool

You know what

VOTE: Lavender

It's cool

You know what

VOTE: Lavender

Yesss.

Make this work.

VOTE: lavender

I am gonna jump onto this one, not because I am naked voting. I originally wanted this slot lynched but then the flavor shiz popped up
VOTE: Lavender

Fwiw JV is locktown now

I agree.

Yeah this seems fair
VOTE: Lavender
Pretty much the two reasons I haven’t voted this is 1) visibility and 2) lack of support for it, both of which aren’t problems rn

VOTE: Lavender

Full disclosure, I don't explicitly SR that slot but we need to lynch someone
5/9 by my count?

I also agree that we need to lynch someone. I am in the same boat as Egix that I don't fully see Lavender as a full SR also but it's a wagon that seems to have the best traction.

VOTE: Lavender

VOTE: Lavander

L-2 probably?

VOTE: Lavender

Should be L minus 1

VOTE: Lavender

Now I need to look back at all these people for their thoughts on Lavender before this. I know Drew was on Lavender for a while before this, and I remember Lavender making a weird RVS-style vote on Blatant.

A lot of these voters claimed a scumread on Lavender and I don’t remember them saying it before this.

[Blatant Scum]

What if Alchemist successfully healed his target and Crimson was vigged?

[pisskop]

wat?

[Lavender]

Good mornings
I got cranky last night and my head hurts, I’ll probably lurk for a bit until I feel swell

[Alchemist21]

Ok I've looked through these ISO's.

Drew's vote is the best-looking. He's been on Lavender since early in the game and kept returning to the Lavender wagon because he never like their posts. I see it as Town who got a bad first impression and confbiased on the slot for the rest of the game.

Jackson's vote was ok. Certainly not the worst. He's had a scumread on Lavender since he entered the game and was voting it except when he thought he was counterclaiming Blatant.

Gamma's vote was ok. Agreed with Drew early on then forgot about Lavender after that. Coming back to the wagon EoD is understandable.

Blatant's vote is in a neutral spot. There was a time when Drew pointed out a lack of support for the Lavender wagon before the EoD wagon happened. Blatant made a personal note to look at that later, but he was part of that lack of support. Then Lavender did the RVS-style thing. I'm not really sure what Blatant's real feelings were on Lavender. Mostly it looks like it was a combination of deadline rush and OMGUS that made him vote Lavender in the end, but maybe he had a small scumread there in the back of his mind.

Egix didn't like Drew's push on Lavender and called Lavender low hanging fruit Town. But he's the one who put the EoD wagon over the halfway mark. A lot of time passed between that opinion on Drew's push and the vote but I don't like the discrepancy there. Other wagons had support at the time, why not vote one of them instead of someone he had called LHF Town?

Jj, Yoda, Titus, and Wake all had no prior mention of Lavender in their ISO's. Yoda and Wake had said they just wanted to get the lynch through, and Wake hammered without a claim. Titus is a claimed Mason. JJ's vote kickstarted the EoD wagon, but I don't know why he chose Lavender. Out if this group, I'd say JJ's and Wake's votes are the worst. I think Wake's is worse than JJ's.

Egix, JJ, and Wake are the ones I'm suspicious of from this wagon. I'm already voting Wake so I'll keep my vote there.

@JJ, why did you re-start the wagon on Lavender?
@Egix, why did you vote someone you had claimed a Townread on? Why not one of the other wagons during that time?
@Wake, why did you hammer without a claim, only 20 minutes after the L-1 vote?

[TrueSoulEnergy]

Ok I've looked through these ISO's.

Drew's vote is the best-looking. He's been on Lavender since early in the game and kept returning to the Lavender wagon because he never like their posts. I see it as Town who got a bad first impression and confbiased on the slot for the rest of the game.

Jackson's vote was ok. Certainly not the worst. He's had a scumread on Lavender since he entered the game and was voting it except when he thought he was counterclaiming Blatant.

Gamma's vote was ok. Agreed with Drew early on then forgot about Lavender after that. Coming back to the wagon EoD is understandable.

Blatant's vote is in a neutral spot. There was a time when Drew pointed out a lack of support for the Lavender wagon before the EoD wagon happened. Blatant made a personal note to look at that later, but he was part of that lack of support. Then Lavender did the RVS-style thing. I'm not really sure what Blatant's real feelings were on Lavender. Mostly it looks like it was a combination of deadline rush and OMGUS that made him vote Lavender in the end, but maybe he had a small scumread there in the back of his mind.

Egix didn't like Drew's push on Lavender and called Lavender low hanging fruit Town. But he's the one who put the EoD wagon over the halfway mark. A lot of time passed between that opinion on Drew's push and the vote but I don't like the discrepancy there. Other wagons had support at the time, why not vote one of them instead of someone he had called LHF Town?

Jj, Yoda, Titus, and Wake all had no prior mention of Lavender in their ISO's. Yoda and Wake had said they just wanted to get the lynch through, and Wake hammered without a claim. Titus is a claimed Mason. JJ's vote kickstarted the EoD wagon, but I don't know why he chose Lavender. Out if this group, I'd say JJ's and Wake's votes are the worst. I think Wake's is worse than JJ's.

Egix, JJ, and Wake are the ones I'm suspicious of from this wagon. I'm already voting Wake so I'll keep my vote there.

@JJ, why did you re-start the wagon on Lavender?
@Egix, why did you vote someone you had claimed a Townread on? Why not one of the other wagons during that time?
@Wake, why did you hammer without a claim, only 20 minutes after the L-1 vote?

Egix and Wake’s vote Pinged me as well.
I forget why I voted JJ but I’ll continue to keep an eye out on him.

UNVOTE: Alchemist

For Now...

[Doctor Drew]

I forgot that is was Egix who said the LHF thing. A weird defense, almost like he knew they weren't going to flip scum.

VOTE: Egix

[TrueSoulEnergy]

I forgot that is was Egix who said the LHF thing. A weird defense, almost like he knew they weren't going to flip scum.

VOTE: Egix

Oh wait I voted Drew before.
Sometimes I get confused LOL.

Looking at Drew though I still think he could be Mafia after the third party comment but I don’t directly like how Egix is playing.
I think Drew and Egix is TVS. Although that’s what I believe.

VOTE: Egix

[TrueSoulEnergy]

In Drew’s defence he could just be Town who truly thought Lavender was scum.
While Egix’s Wagon Switch didn’t look right.

[Egix96]

I forgot that is was Egix who said the LHF thing. A weird defense, almost like he knew they weren't going to flip scum.

VOTE: Egix

Oh wait I voted Drew before.
Sometimes I get confused LOL.

Looking at Drew though

I still think he could be Mafia after the third party comment

but I don’t directly like how Egix is playing.

I think Drew and Egix is TVS

. Although that’s what I believe.

VOTE: Egix

Um no that doesn't really make sense

[Egix96]

Ok I've looked through these ISO's.

Drew's vote is the best-looking. He's been on Lavender since early in the game and kept returning to the Lavender wagon because he never like their posts. I see it as Town who got a bad first impression and confbiased on the slot for the rest of the game.

Jackson's vote was ok. Certainly not the worst. He's had a scumread on Lavender since he entered the game and was voting it except when he thought he was counterclaiming Blatant.

Gamma's vote was ok. Agreed with Drew early on then forgot about Lavender after that. Coming back to the wagon EoD is understandable.

Blatant's vote is in a neutral spot. There was a time when Drew pointed out a lack of support for the Lavender wagon before the EoD wagon happened. Blatant made a personal note to look at that later, but he was part of that lack of support. Then Lavender did the RVS-style thing. I'm not really sure what Blatant's real feelings were on Lavender. Mostly it looks like it was a combination of deadline rush and OMGUS that made him vote Lavender in the end, but maybe he had a small scumread there in the back of his mind.

Egix didn't like Drew's push on Lavender and called Lavender low hanging fruit Town. But he's the one who put the EoD wagon over the halfway mark. A lot of time passed between that opinion on Drew's push and the vote but I don't like the discrepancy there. Other wagons had support at the time, why not vote one of them instead of someone he had called LHF Town?

Jj, Yoda, Titus, and Wake all had no prior mention of Lavender in their ISO's. Yoda and Wake had said they just wanted to get the lynch through, and Wake hammered without a claim. Titus is a claimed Mason. JJ's vote kickstarted the EoD wagon, but I don't know why he chose Lavender. Out if this group, I'd say JJ's and Wake's votes are the worst. I think Wake's is worse than JJ's.

Egix, JJ, and Wake are the ones I'm suspicious of from this wagon. I'm already voting Wake so I'll keep my vote there.

@JJ, why did you re-start the wagon on Lavender?
@Egix, why did you vote someone you had claimed a Townread on? Why not one of the other wagons during that time?
@Wake, why did you hammer without a claim, only 20 minutes after the L-1 vote?

I believed Blatant's claim because it made sense with my own role, and as for pkop, I moved off him because I didn't want to risk a lynch on someone who had been called mod-confirmed town after I voted them.

[Egix96]

What if Alchemist successfully healed his target and Crimson was vigged?

Hey, I thought YOU were the TP here.

[Egix96]

I’m going to expand on question 1.
How in the actual world, did I get lynched so quickly and so suddenly near EOD?
If I recall everyone was only slight scum to Neutral with me on their reads.
It was so painfully sudden, that I didn’t even get the chance to claim.
Seriously, what went through y’all’s minds?

I didn’t vote you.
You were Null for me and I felt jjh, Flubbernugget or BS were better lynches.
Mainly Flubbernugget as he’s Obv Scum.
Alchemist is leaning scum for me too, after I seen his visit.

You saw me visit him and then I voted him out of the gate before you said anything. How do you interpret that any other way than investigative with a guilty?

Also this.

VOTE: TrueSoulEnergy
Your perspective isn't making a lot of sense to me rn.

[Doctor Drew]

What if Alchemist successfully healed his target and Crimson was vigged?

Hey, I thought YOU were the TP here.

That actually is a good catch.

[Blatant Scum]

I’m going to expand on question 1.
How in the actual world, did I get lynched so quickly and so suddenly near EOD?
If I recall everyone was only slight scum to Neutral with me on their reads.
It was so painfully sudden, that I didn’t even get the chance to claim.
Seriously, what went through y’all’s minds?

I didn’t vote you.
You were Null for me and I felt jjh, Flubbernugget or BS were better lynches.
Mainly Flubbernugget as he’s Obv Scum.
Alchemist is leaning scum for me too, after I seen his visit.

You saw me visit him and then I voted him out of the gate before you said anything. How do you interpret that any other way than investigative with a guilty?

TP that didn’t heal them and said “They could be scum then” and voted against them.

It was reaction on this.

[Blatant Scum]

I voted Lavander because I don't do D1, D2 reads at all.
I stick to mechanics, and it made sense to vote a wagon to make a person get lynched, rather than no lynch.

[Blatant Scum]

Your perspective isn't making a lot of sense to me rn.

Is it scummy?

[TrueSoulEnergy]

I’m going to expand on question 1.
How in the actual world, did I get lynched so quickly and so suddenly near EOD?
If I recall everyone was only slight scum to Neutral with me on their reads.
It was so painfully sudden, that I didn’t even get the chance to claim.
Seriously, what went through y’all’s minds?

I didn’t vote you.
You were Null for me and I felt jjh, Flubbernugget or BS were better lynches.
Mainly Flubbernugget as he’s Obv Scum.
Alchemist is leaning scum for me too, after I seen his visit.

You saw me visit him and then I voted him out of the gate before you said anything. How do you interpret that any other way than investigative with a guilty?

Also this.

VOTE: TrueSoulEnergy
Your perspective isn't making a lot of sense to me rn.

He could be:
TI
Mafia Role
TP
Roleblocker.

That’s what I was thinking in my mind.
His vote also didn’t look like he was letting it stay there for long and he was probably going to change his vote from PK to someone else.

[JacksonVirgo]

I’m going to expand on question 1.
How in the actual world, did I get lynched so quickly and so suddenly near EOD?
If I recall everyone was only slight scum to Neutral with me on their reads.
It was so painfully sudden, that I didn’t even get the chance to claim.
Seriously, what went through y’all’s minds?

I didn’t vote you.
You were Null for me and I felt jjh, Flubbernugget or BS were better lynches.
Mainly Flubbernugget as he’s Obv Scum.
Alchemist is leaning scum for me too, after I seen his visit.

You saw me visit him and then I voted him out of the gate before you said anything. How do you interpret that any other way than investigative with a guilty?

Also this.

VOTE: TrueSoulEnergy
Your perspective isn't making a lot of sense to me rn.

He could be:
TI
Mafia Role
TP
Roleblocker.

That’s what I was thinking in my mind.
His vote also didn’t look like he was letting it stay there for long and he was probably going to change his vote from PK to someone else.

I see where you're coming from but if pissduder flips scum, all this thought is useless?

[TrueSoulEnergy]

I’m going to expand on question 1.
How in the actual world, did I get lynched so quickly and so suddenly near EOD?
If I recall everyone was only slight scum to Neutral with me on their reads.
It was so painfully sudden, that I didn’t even get the chance to claim.
Seriously, what went through y’all’s minds?

I didn’t vote you.
You were Null for me and I felt jjh, Flubbernugget or BS were better lynches.
Mainly Flubbernugget as he’s Obv Scum.
Alchemist is leaning scum for me too, after I seen his visit.

You saw me visit him and then I voted him out of the gate before you said anything. How do you interpret that any other way than investigative with a guilty?

Also this.

VOTE: TrueSoulEnergy
Your perspective isn't making a lot of sense to me rn.

He could be:
TI
Mafia Role
TP
Roleblocker.

That’s what I was thinking in my mind.
His vote also didn’t look like he was letting it stay there for long and he was probably going to change his vote from PK to someone else.

I see where you're coming from but if pissduder flips scum, all this thought is useless?

Those were my thoughts when I got the results.

[JacksonVirgo]

Oh okay