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Post Post #7325 (ISO) » Sun Nov 24, 2019 10:28 am

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I would like to point out that there is no
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button on MafTiger, but I refuse to stop using it in protest.
In post 7318, TrueSoulEnergy wrote:Read G5’s post.
He states I said to G5 and G6 Interaction “Your both Town!”
As well as G6 and G4 Interaction “Your Both Town!”
And I wasn’t wrong on that.
I am, in fact, aware, that you town read most of the players that were not actively scum reading you. In addition, when either of those players was scum reading you, you were also scum reading them.

Your statement about being right on most of your town reads and wrong only on some of your scum reads is highly indicative of bad reads. Every player in the game of mafia will always be right on most of their town reads, because most of the game is town. By believing this is a symptom of good reads, you buy into a fallacy.
In post 7319, Firebringer wrote:I really like those two as names.

Titus made some earlier posts that pinged me. I think Amrun was onto something, which I am shocked about.
You know Amrun and have played with her before?
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Post Post #7326 (ISO) » Sun Nov 24, 2019 10:29 am

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In post 7321, Pink Ball wrote:Whats a read haired elf
an elf with red hair, menas character
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Post Post #7327 (ISO) » Sun Nov 24, 2019 10:30 am

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In post 7299, Menalque wrote:Can u poison dave firewoofer?
P sure davesaz is town. Didn't you say he was null earlier?
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Post Post #7328 (ISO) » Sun Nov 24, 2019 10:30 am

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In post 7325, Miss Lane wrote:You know Amrun and have played with her before?
no, I just had a really poor first impression of her in the beginning of this game and haven't yet shacked my initial impression of her.
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"last time I was scum with Firebringer
his first post in the scum PT was "yes I rolled scum!"
I decided to post "haha just don't post that in the main thread", but to get up to date on the main thread first.

His first post in the main thread was "yes I rolled scum!" -popsofctown
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Post Post #7329 (ISO) » Sun Nov 24, 2019 10:30 am

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In post 7321, Pink Ball wrote:Whats a read haired elf
Vote Titus
It’s a me! Also the person who chem body guarded against the orcus kill last night
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Post Post #7330 (ISO) » Sun Nov 24, 2019 10:31 am

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maftiger is a real trip, but really dont use it. It'll put your eye out.
beeboy - Everyone thought this game was made to troll pie but it was really made to troll pisskop.
Almost50 pisskop: Overall, that's a townie slot. Don't ask for specifics because with PK everything can be interpreted either way. It's probably WHEN he says/does things that matter, so it's more of a matter of conception rather than solid reasoning.
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Post Post #7331 (ISO) » Sun Nov 24, 2019 10:31 am

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In post 7328, Firebringer wrote:
In post 7325, Miss Lane wrote:You know Amrun and have played with her before?
no, I just had a really poor first impression of her in the beginning of this game and haven't yet shacked my initial impression of her.
Understand all.
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Post Post #7332 (ISO) » Sun Nov 24, 2019 10:32 am

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In post 7327, EspressoPatronum wrote:
In post 7299, Menalque wrote:Can u poison dave firewoofer?
P sure davesaz is town. Didn't you say he was null earlier?
Idk maybe? But he moved up to a scumlean
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Post Post #7333 (ISO) » Sun Nov 24, 2019 10:34 am

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@Fire if I had a vig right now here's where I'd be looking and why
It should be noted I am a conservative vig and only rarely attempt hero shots

03. Wooper- Duck is very capable, so where is he?
06. Iconeum- both useless and scummy
12. TrueSoulEnergy- to improve the quality of the game
18. Gamma Emerald- both useless and scummy
19. Pink Ball- claimed 3p, so why not?
21. Dr Easy Bake- honestly? i've only seen this person a couple times and i already think they should be policy vigged. they should also stop signing up for mafia games they have no intention of playing.
24. davesaz- possibly scum, though i am not good at reading this person
37. Flavor Leaf- this would be my hero shot
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Post Post #7334 (ISO) » Sun Nov 24, 2019 10:35 am

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if Dave is now a scumlean for you mena why wasn't he on your list?
In post 7177, Menalque wrote:I’d like to gate him to shoot within (vork, titus, TSE, wooper, kori, chenn, pine, zor)
Of all tyrannies,a tyranny sincerely exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive. It would be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies. The robber baron's cruelty may sometimes sleep but those who torment us for our own good will torment us without end they do so with the approval of their own conscience.

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Post Post #7335 (ISO) » Sun Nov 24, 2019 10:36 am

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In post 7333, Cephrir wrote:@Fire if I had a vig right now here's where I'd be looking and why
It should be noted I am a conservative vig and only rarely attempt hero shots

03. Wooper- Duck is very capable, so where is he?
06. Iconeum- both useless and scummy
12. TrueSoulEnergy- to improve the quality of the game
18. Gamma Emerald- both useless and scummy
19. Pink Ball- claimed 3p, so why not?
21. Dr Easy Bake- honestly? i've only seen this person a couple times and i already think they should be policy vigged. they should also stop signing up for mafia games they have no intention of playing.
24. davesaz- possibly scum, though i am not good at reading this person
37. Flavor Leaf- this would be my hero shot
hmmm okay.

Do you think Titus is town?
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his first post in the scum PT was "yes I rolled scum!"
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His first post in the main thread was "yes I rolled scum!" -popsofctown
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Post Post #7336 (ISO) » Sun Nov 24, 2019 10:36 am

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I would like it if we could not vig slots that will be replaced
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Post Post #7337 (ISO) » Sun Nov 24, 2019 10:37 am

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In post 7334, Nero Cain wrote:if Dave is now a scumlean for you mena why wasn't he on your list?
In post 7177, Menalque wrote:I’d like to gate him to shoot within (vork, titus, TSE, wooper, kori, chenn, pine, zor)
Bc I was trying to get a list that we could agree on and didn’t think he’d be agreed on?
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Post Post #7338 (ISO) » Sun Nov 24, 2019 10:39 am

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In post 7335, Firebringer wrote:
In post 7333, Cephrir wrote:@Fire if I had a vig right now here's where I'd be looking and why
It should be noted I am a conservative vig and only rarely attempt hero shots

03. Wooper- Duck is very capable, so where is he?
06. Iconeum- both useless and scummy
12. TrueSoulEnergy- to improve the quality of the game
18. Gamma Emerald- both useless and scummy
19. Pink Ball- claimed 3p, so why not?
21. Dr Easy Bake- honestly? i've only seen this person a couple times and i already think they should be policy vigged. they should also stop signing up for mafia games they have no intention of playing.
24. davesaz- possibly scum, though i am not good at reading this person
37. Flavor Leaf- this would be my hero shot
hmmm okay.

Do you think Titus is town?
Not especially, but I don't think she needs vigging on account of her being in the spotlight right now

If she slipped back under the radar I would consider it
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Post Post #7339 (ISO) » Sun Nov 24, 2019 10:40 am

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So you put a guy on your list that has a hider check on him but you wouldn't put a mainly inactive player on there, got it.
Of all tyrannies,a tyranny sincerely exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive. It would be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies. The robber baron's cruelty may sometimes sleep but those who torment us for our own good will torment us without end they do so with the approval of their own conscience.

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Post Post #7340 (ISO) » Sun Nov 24, 2019 10:41 am

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In post 7339, Nero Cain wrote:So you put a guy on your list that has a hider check on him but you wouldn't put a mainly inactive player on there, got it.
I don’t know who the second person is but I think the first is zor?
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Post Post #7341 (ISO) » Sun Nov 24, 2019 10:42 am

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Jesus Christ Nero, I actually think you’re town so I’m trying to be patient with you but Christ it’s frustrating
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Post Post #7342 (ISO) » Sun Nov 24, 2019 10:42 am

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the one with a hider check is zor, the mainly inactive player is Dave.
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Post Post #7343 (ISO) » Sun Nov 24, 2019 10:53 am

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In post 7341, Menalque wrote:Jesus Christ Nero, I actually think you’re town so I’m trying to be patient with you but Christ it’s frustrating
Sorry? I don't really think you are that town and I'm not really sure why you are upset. I think it's a fair criticism to question why you have not mafia Zor on your list and not a guy that you had a scumlean on. If you want to argue that Zor and Ali are scum together then fine, that's fair. You say that you were trying to put out a vig list that everyone would agree with which is political and a play I could see scum making. I mean maybe I'm overly paranoid but I don't think this is something to get angry over. Also, you've pushed a false slip and run up a maybe town vig so rn I'm not overly impressed with your scumhunting.
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Post Post #7344 (ISO) » Sun Nov 24, 2019 10:54 am

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I’d forgotten that zor was the hider check, dave had been active but seemed to be picking up and also I’m p sure there were people TRing him so I didn’t think there would be consensus to have him in the vig pool
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Post Post #7345 (ISO) » Sun Nov 24, 2019 10:56 am

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Also, I think lynching/vigging scummy inactive players to improve the gamestate is a perfectly valid strategy
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Post Post #7346 (ISO) » Sun Nov 24, 2019 10:58 am

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I’m finding it frustrating because thinking I would intentionally put zor on my list with a hider check on him as mafia is just dumb. I’m not gonna just pop someone who’s got a check on them and then claim whoops as scum. Like it’s possible I forget as scum, but trying to make this out as scummy is weird. Obviously not a list that everyone would agree with but which would receive broad agreement. Of those who are active, in p sure that dave was being TR by at least some and I don’t feel strongly enough about it to fight to have him on the list, and also don’t think the vig list should be determined by any one individual person

I don’t see how pushing a maybe town vig is scum!indicative for me at all, and I haven’t pushed a false slip I’ve pointed out that it’s weird and then not pushed you over it
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Post Post #7347 (ISO) » Sun Nov 24, 2019 11:08 am

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In post 7346, Menalque wrote:I don’t see how pushing a maybe town vig is scum!indicative for me at al
I'm not saying it is but if he's town then both of the lynches you've championed for have been on town so at the very least you've been an ineffective scumhunter.
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Post Post #7348 (ISO) » Sun Nov 24, 2019 11:11 am

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Who’s the other lynch I championed? Drew? That was much more led by others, I just didn’t believe the PGO claim as it was always gonna be unverifiable
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Post Post #7349 (ISO) » Sun Nov 24, 2019 11:14 am

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eh ok
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