Mini Normal 2108 : 1st game

[Robbnva]

her*. Sorry

[Wake1]

Why ask if your target died?

I’m opposed to mass claim and skitter mentioning it just makes him scummier.

Creature was NOT my target.

Menalque

was.

[Robbnva]

Menalque has died last night he was Vanilla Townie

.Sample Role PM
Player —

Vanilla Townie

Greetings, Menalque Welcome to Mini Normal 2108. You have rolled Vanilla Townie.
Abilities:
Voting — During the day, you may vote for someone to get them lynched.
Win condition:
You win when all threats to the Town have been eliminated.

[Robbnva]

If menal was alive I’d be voting them.

The bob wagon was horrible. Menal was definitely a surprise.

Skitter/Garmr are my scum reads.

[Wake1]

creature has died last night he was Vanilla Townie

.Sample Role PM
Player —

Vanilla Townie

Greetings, creature Welcome to Mini Normal 2108. You have rolled Vanilla Townie.
Abilities:
Voting — During the day, you may vote for someone to get them lynched.
Win condition:
You win when all threats to the Town have been eliminated.

[Wake1]

Oh, the kills were listed in two separate posts.

[Tchill13]

theres scum on the bob wagon. thats a perfect lynch for scum.

leaves robb, BEF, wake, creature in the game.

not sure why creature would have been the nk.

[Tchill13]

it's probably massclaim today, i think, we're in mylo

is it even possible for town to lose a game in 2 day phases on site? is that setup allowed in a normal???

[Wake1]

Thoughts on lynching Tchill?

[Tchill13]

Official Vote Count 1.17

With 9 votes in play, it takes 5 to lynch.

bob3141:(

hammerd

skitter30 Menalque Garmr creature Wake88
Tchill13:(0)
Garmr:(1) bob3141
Robbnva:(0)
Wake88:(0)
creature(1) Tchill13
skitter30:(0)
Menalque:(L2)BrightEyedFish Robbnva bob3141
BrightEyedFish:(0)

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Deadline (expired on 2019-11-29 20:40:00)

with 5 votes on bob, bob was lynched bob was vt

bib was lynch bob was Vanilla Townie

.Sample Role PM
Player —

Vanilla Townie

Greetings, bob Welcome to Mini Normal 2108. You have rolled Vanilla Townie.
Abilities:
Voting — During the day, you may vote for someone to get them lynched.
Win condition:
You win when all threats to the Town have been eliminated.

i think lynching in skitter garmr is the way to go tbh.

id prefer garmr.

[Wake1]

If we massclaim Scum would just call themselves VT. Only useful if a PR had a result.

[Tchill13]

Thoughts on lynching Tchill?

on lynching me or the lynch?

i think the lynch was pretty rough. not a fan of the bob lynch there.

that said, unless the wagon is all town idk why creature is the nk. i'll have to reread creature.

[Tchill13]

skitter SR is an actual scum agenda read while garmr SR comes from gut/familiarity with garmr.

scum could be WIFOM'ing with the nk, obv its not practical for scum to narrow down the possible scum on the bob wagon there.

[Tchill13]

creature, menal and bob were actually being voted and all were town.

garmr is the only one alive that wasnt being voted at the end of the day.

wake has to be conf town here. if he's scum then scum are way too OP given town could lose this game in just 2 day phases.

I'll even take it a step further and say that menal kill is the best kill in the perspective of the vote analysis.

[skitter30]

Are there any Normal Power Roles that can redirect a NK?

I don't know about a massclaim. I'd like to hear everyone else's thoughts before doing anything.

No, there arent.

You're ungated, right?

[Tchill13]

tchill/wake/robb/skitter/bef/garmr

if theres a vig in the game (town or scum) of a 9 player normal its almost a guarantee that only 2 scum are in the game.

if 3 scum is in this game this is a stupid setup. I'm against a mass claim.

[Wake1]

Thoughts on lynching you, Tchill.

There's no multiball in Minis, ergo only one NK.

By killing Menalque I was hedging my bets, so that of Bob was mislynched than the opposer, Menalque would possibly be Scum and die as well. Apparently they were both Town.

What we need to do is analyze who did what regarding these wagons, and who hopped/shifted during it. I bet at least one Scum didn't vote (gut feeling).

[Wake1]

Are there any Normal Power Roles that can redirect a NK?

I don't know about a massclaim. I'd like to hear everyone else's thoughts before doing anything.

No, there arent.

You're ungated, right?

Pretty sure this was answered earlier.

Yes, I'm ungated.

[Wake1]

I'm against a massclaim, too.

[Tchill13]

so you're just a vig that can kill every night phase? in a 9 player game?

[Wake1]

I'm surprised I wasn't killed last night.

Perhaps they thought I'd kill Robb? Perhaps Robb is Scum and was preemptively defended him?

I'm thinking there's no Roleblocker. If there were why wouldn't they target me? Unless they thought I'd shoot Robb and they knew he was Town. FFS I don't know.

If there ARE any results from any Town PRs today...

...perhaps they should be shared. Any new information I can work with while I'm still alive would be extremely helpful.

[Wake1]

so you're just a vig that can kill every night phase? in a 9 player game?

Yes.

[Tchill13]

Oh look, all it says is Scumlean.

Cool!

Scumlean.

So Robbnva town

So we must have 6v3

So bef, do you have any other thoughts on the game? Reads on anyone else?

The game got off to a blazing start, making me dizzy and paranoid.
Here is a shotgun reads list, and before anyone asks, these are all gut reads based on ISO reading:

bob3141 - null, 1 RVS post
Tchill13 - Town lean, his "i've changed" post seems genuine. However, alone it's not AI and could be a ploy.
Garmr - I don't get why he scum reads me but if this game is anything like my other games, I'll probably say something "scummy af" get a wagon on me (usually led by scum)
Robbnva - Null - The amount of posts makes me want to put Robb in the scum pile but I don't like committing too early.
Wake88 - My RVS vote is there now, but I feel fine leaving it there even out of RVS for now
skitter30 - I always think skitter is town and I'm pretty sure I've never played with scum!skitter. Just going on odds RN. Town.
Hectic - Hectic's post fit his name well. Scum lean just for the abrasiveness.
Rabid Schnauzer - I want to put Rabid in the scum pile but as I'm writing this I am getting the feeling that I am just scum reading the most active players.

Oh no BEF randed scum D:

i dont' think rabid/robb is svs and i think rabid looks better than robb does

I'm thinking they're both town

Meh, Garmr is looking really irrelevant so far

Did skitter just hand me the easiest townread ever?

Okay, Robb v Rabid is TvT

Can we now follow Papa Creature who got this game?

creature what do you think of Rabid?

He's town

Garmr is probably the other scum

He isn't doing anything of importance

If we were to lynch Bob, but he flips Town, I would have to kill someone between Menalque and Garmr.

Rabid was town

I can lynch BEF if we get enough interest

all the creature reads about players that are still alive.

[Tchill13]

the creature iso makes me want to lean towards BEF scum.

the fact that wake is a vig in this game that is

UNGATED

make me believe he is scum.

if there are 2 scum wake is conf scum imo.

someone needs to talk me through how town could have an ungated vig in a 2 or 3 scum 9 player normal game.

[Wake1]

Now we know Menalque is Town, I'd like to revisit with you why he was Scum, Robb.