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VC 3.08

Titus (3):

Menalque 2837, PenguinPower 2838, Something_Smart 2842

PenguinPower (2):

Farkran 2772, Egix96 2780

Egix96 (1):

Titus 2735

Farkran (1):

Flubbernugget 2757

Flubbernugget (1):

bob3141 2508

Not Voting:

Amrun

With 9 alive it takes 5 to lynch.

Deadline:

(expired on 2019-12-05 17:00:00)

[Titus]

I'll be back in a day or two. I'm too grumpy at the moment.

[Titus]

*sees deadline* Shit

[Titus]

I'm the doctor. Still can't post much today.

[Amrun]

VOTE: Farkan

[Menalque]

Who did you protect?

[Titus]

Who did you protect?

SS.

[Something_Smart]

Both nights?

[Farkran]

Spoiler: rabid

I'll try to explain myself better. This is my reasoning step-by-step:

1. The traitor is endgamed if we kill the two main mafia.
2. Sheeps was one of the main mafia (otherwise he would have flipped as TRAITOR goon).
3. This means we only need to kill the other main mafia to win this game
4. Therefore, the other main mafia and the traitor should be much more discouraged to bus sheeps in this scenario
5. This makes it more likely that there are no two bussers on the sheeps wagon
6. This makes both PP and flubber scummier than they already were
7. It was PP who pointed out the possibility of a loyal nbrz + traitor setup

Conclusion: would PP make himself scummier if he was scum? I wouldn't know, but i think that he would do so only if he was the traitor, so i'm less willing to lynch him today.

That mostly makes sense.

I still need to read fark's scum game, and that's not happening until after Thanksgiving. But regarding the claim - I don't see much town motivation for making the claim, but I don't see

any

scum motivation to do so. I don't buy that a vote from S_S put scum!fark in such a panic that he invented that as a fakeclaim, or outed his role if he's scum. IMO the claim is slightly townie.

Also, the fact that we have no evidence of a neighborhood lends some credence to the loyal/traitor theory

. I don't recall ever seeing someone draw neighborizer and then just not use it. It's usually pretty useless, but still people like to use their powers.

<tinfoilhat>What if there are only two scum?</tinfoilhat>

Then both scum would have decent power for balance. But, we flipped a goon.

Lol @titus claim

Rabid was the one guy who gave credit to my claim about my role and setup speculation. If there was anyone who would vote the shit out of me it would have been doctor!rabid, who would have had all the reasons in the world to doubt my roleclaim due to being a pr himself.

Nice try, next time you should probably catch up for real.

VOTE: titus

[Menalque]

SS, how likely do you think it is that there’s a doc and that fark’s role exists?

[Menalque]

I think I wanna lynch the doc claim

[Menalque]

But equally claiming SS both nights is weird?

[PenguinPower]

I’m in the NRG too.

[Menalque]

Third on was S_S. This one looks bad:

410 - Initially has garmr in his lynch pool
599 - After discussion with tchill, he removes garmr from lynchpool
1002 - garmr is a townlean
1178 - votes his town lean because no better option

I'll look at the rest later, but this is enough for me to vote.
VOTE: Something_Smart

Yeah I’m not sure that rabid saw the garmr flip, protected SS, then made this post

[Menalque]

And by “not sure” I mean I think that’s bullshit

[Farkran]

SS, how likely do you think it is that there’s a doc and that fark’s role exists?

Btw this is irrelevant. IF there is another town pr, doctor or whatever, it's never titus. Rabid would have eaten me alive if he was a town pr.

Also yeah, there was no reason to protect SS n1 since he only claimed mason during day 2.

[Menalque]

I’m in the NRG too.

Yes but you’re not conf!town pingüino

Go on tho: do you think it makes sense for balance?

[Menalque]

Can you stop answering questions that are explicitly directed at other people, please

[Menalque]

Oh fuck I just realised Titus never claimed it was both nights lmao, I just saw the question from SS

[PenguinPower]

I’m in the NRG too.

Yes but you’re not conf!town pingüino

Go on tho: do you think it makes sense for balance?

Dunno without mafia roles. I still don’t think Fark’s does. 2 clears/Nerfed invest/protective vs. some sort of mad pr would make sense and explain a bus on the goon but only if the maf!pr was in danger at some point.

That said, I don’t like the claim or the claimed actions at all and it doesn’t feel real.

Side note: find it funny you care about setup spec now given previous comments.

[Menalque]

I care about setup spec now that I think there are too many PRs

[Menalque]

So I guess the question is who was looking like they’d go through when sheep was switched onto if Titus flips green

[Titus]

Both nights?

That's what I have

[PenguinPower]

Don’t believe it. Rabid doesn’t doc S_S N1 and then open up with a vote on him D2.

Unfortunately/Fortunately, I think this spews Farkran town.

[Something_Smart]

Rabid doesn’t doc S_S N1 and then open up with a vote on him D2.

Good catch.