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[Tea]

Now that I reread chemist's guilty

Damn Chemist is bigbrain

[Tea]

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Yes but also... someone said something about how you and Dolly feel like you're defending each other and trying not to look like it

I think it's not impossible

[Tea]

O I also think Dave is probably town

[Luca Blight]

Menalque, you're using meta to defend A50, so what can you tell me about Norweigian?

Is poor progression entirely scum-indicative from him?

[Tea]

Idk if there's even supposed to be 3 scum or 4 scum in this game so assoc. hunting will be hard

[Tea]

Hot take: Menalque and Dolly have been hard defending each other while trying to look like they don't care about the other

This is what I was looking for

[Menalque]

oh chenn is doing the catch up thing where he reads through

enjoy 1402 chenn

Buckle up this will be longer

layla progression: probably irrelevant/nai comparatively so bye

FL: His posts certainly seem to be trying to set up an associative that makes him seem better and it seems very opportunistic in timing and TMI in content.

"Actually re-reading the game. This post is BIG yikes! Holy shit."
Like I can easily see at least two objectives
1) Make it easier to get off my wagon
2) Make it look like he had actual thoughts about FL

Chem: The reason he's joking is so he can be non-committal.

Norwegian: I mean, I do think revealing that I wasn't you gave him significant room to do shit

I think the blatantly bad part is his read on me before I revealed I was me

and the turnaround is actually ironically one of his towniest things

I also think the menalque vote didn't seem overly opportunistic given that I think it's really hard for him to lynch you today

explain this to me

he makes numerous points about how you're bad!posting before you meta him and he gets onto thinking that you're me

when you reveal who you are

he magically forgets all of those and his previous SR -- like he said you were his top SR before he thought you were me! -- disappears

the Layla stuff is relevant due to the body of evidence of him NOT. ACTUALLY. HAVING. REAL. READS.

[Menalque]

like fucking hell chenn I spent like 2 actual real life hours making that post you could do more than shit like "I also think the menalque vote didn't seem overly opportunistic given hat I think it's really hard for him to lynch you today"

stop missing the forest for the trees

[Menalque]

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Yes but also... someone said something about how you and Dolly feel like you're defending each other and trying not to look like it

I think it's not impossible

no, it's not impossible, but I'm not trying to not look like it at this point: at this point I'm outright saying dolly is a mislynch and we should lynch Norway instead

before I just didn't really think about dolly because I was scumhunting elsewhere

[Menalque]

Menalque, you're using meta to defend A50, so what can you tell me about Norweigian?

Is poor progression entirely scum-indicative from him?

I mean I can't remember this perfectly, I've played like 3 games with him

iirc he's OMGUSy as town and easy to manipulate as scum

[Luca Blight]

Has he not been OMGUSy this game?

[Menalque]

Finally a real wagon. Skitter30 and Nibbui are town for pushing against Wicked. Teacher seems like he might be town since he's the first RVS wagon.
Wicked might be scum.

Eh i was in a bad mood at the time and he was pushing the wrong buttons

I think that was the trigger for it

I just don’t know if he was pushing me intentionally to get a reaction or if it was just a personality clash

Maybe you should apply that thinking to me.

Townread:
- Skitter30 (Stance of actively solving the game. Very reasonable logic behind her posts.)
- Nibbui (I was unsure at first, but I've started liking him more and more, town attitude)

Light townread:
- Teacher (Had a crappy RVS wagon piled on him from day 1. Could be scum bussing him, but i think it's more likely he's town based on this fact. I can't find much else to comment on based on reading into his ISO.)
- The Worst (He seems very excited about playing this. If he prefers playing town then i believe he is in this game.)

Neutral/Unsure:
- Emperor Flippynips (Leaning scum, but i've played a game where he was like this. Just posting memes and being very low activity when it comes to producing actual content. Has a scummy towngame IMO.)
- Egix96 (Leaning town, but he hasn't said a lot so i'm putting him as neutral)
- ceejayvinoya (Low activity terrible slot, but i can't just properly read him based on nothing. Neutral for now)
- Bingle (I don't understand anything this dude says. Could be scum intentionally being obfuscating. Or he's town with a very peculiar form of behavior i just can't fathom properly)
- DrDolittle (Almost no content to speak of. Speak up more guy.)

Light scumread:
- Menalque (I want to know whether i just don't like this guy's atttude in general or whether i am correctly scumreading him. His bad excuses to aggressively push townies piss me off.)
- Wickedestjr (I get the vibe that Skitter and Nibbui has been mentioning. Has the time to complain about the gamestate but not actively participating in it.)
- Blatant Scum (Shitty slot. All he's done so far is sheeping a vote with not much behind it and typing 1 sentence posts that don't add much.)

Town:
- Nibbui (I don't think scum would be this active in questioning others, so he is my strongest townlean)

Light townlean:
- Skitter30 (I should be more wary of her like people suggest. So pushed back to light townlean)
- The Worst (There's a wagon of 5 peeps on him right now, but i'm not joining in since i'm not convinced he is scum. Looking at his ISO he seems town to me)
- Menalque (Asshole which bullies people that join mafia games if he deems them "lesser skilled" than he demands. But i think he is town)

Neutral/Unsure:
- Wickedestjr (I liked his recent posts. Upped to nullread)
- Emperor Flippynips (Hasn't said anything new)
- Egix96 (Has mentioned he will catch up later i think)
- Bingle (He's acting weird. Not much else for me to say about him, i don't know his scum play)
- DrDolittle (Said he would just leave the game and come back later if i remember correctly)

Light scumlean:
- Teacher (I made an human error of how many votes he accumulated on day 1 and now he's using that against me like it's somehow scum indicative. Not a fan. The way he phrases his language like i was "forcing a read on him" gives me even worse vibes)
- Blatant Scum (Hasn't said a thing since last time, so my feelings are the same about him)
- ceejayvinoya (Still a terrible unreadable slot. Hey Menalque, why don't you grill this guy who's not even talking? Who's the "liability to town" now?)

I may go back and look at this again tomorrow, but at least here I think his progressions were fine, and he was town

people moved, but the movements were pretty clearly in relation to interactions in the game

he also had a lot of static reads

[Menalque]

My reads right now.

Strong townlean
- Gamma Emerald

Townlean
- Chemist1422
- Billy Pilgrim
- Vorkuta
- Wake88
- Flavor Leaf (Changed my read on him over time)

Null
- Almost50
- davesaz
- Dunnstral
- Reundo
- PMysterious
- Fish Monger
- splitfarvle

Scumlean
- Luca Blight
- Layla
- Zote the Mighty (For post 246)

Scum:
- Tea

Looking at the events of today i'm not sure i want Luca lynched anymore. Wake's slot is starting to look much worse in comparison.
This is pretty much where i am atm.

Town. (Do not want lynched):
- Tea
- Gamma Emerald
- Reundo

No strong stance:
- Hectic
- Luca Blight
- Dunnstral
- Almost50

Scummy:
- pisskop
- davesaz
- Dolly Parton
- Wake88
- Menalque

so yeah there's a lot more posts plus a scumflip

someone else can dig up all his reads from C9++ if I don't get to it sometime tomorrow

but basically I think you can see a lot more movement around reads here than in C9++

[Tea]

I think norwegian could be scum, yes

But I also think Dolly is straight up just scum

[Tea]

Ok well I guess Norwegian didn't explain any of his reads which is kind of alarming

[Tea]

This game is hard and now all my reads have been disoriented, thanks

[Tea]

Ugh

Norwegian feels the wrong mix of committal and not committal

[Menalque]

Has he not been OMGUSy this game?

I mean yeah but he's also OMGUSy as scum (I just looked at nomination mafia) too so this isn't really a reason to TR him in the face of all the evidence against

[Menalque]

what do you think I am @chenn

[Menalque]

and also why do you think dolly is scum>?

[Tea]

what do you think I am @chenn

You are probably town

And also Dolly feels unconventional in a scummy way and her read on Dunn is weird

[Tea]

Actually I feel like even my Dolly read is kind of conflated.

Argh this game.

[Tea]

It's possible I'm just being bad and ur right

In fact it's probably the most likely

But I need to think about it ya know??

[Tea]

I think Luca’s flip flop on the Vorkuta wagon on D1 looks bad, like their reads aren’t genuine.

VOTE: Luca Blight

Let's give this a whirl

VOTE: Luca Blight

PEDIT

DAMN>>>>>>>

Did we plan this telepathically or what....

Ew bad shitpost

4 votes in 8 mins.

That's my kind of rush

Ironically this is kind of towny

I'm getting a little excited

Ironically this is kind of towny

VOTE: Luca

L-1

Claim time.

Ew bad seriouspost

Dolly and Wake are both doing the scum thing where they care much less about what's going on when someone else is being wagoned, and start making filler/troll posts instead of pushing the wagon they apparently believe in

What's wrong with pushing a wagon we believe in?

Are you trying to stop the luca wagon for some weird reason?

This literally does not address the question

I didn't say there was something wrong with that, I'm saying you aren't doing that.

Can you please quote where you think you are pushing the wagon?

I do believe in the luca wagon.

She never addresses this despite multiple attempts to clarify

Dolly is making a presence without really taking a stance. That seems bad

Oh yeah

Here she never answers the question and still never answers it.

[Tea]

Her stances on Luca suck

Her stances in general suck

The movement of her stances, aka her progression, sucks