BooneyToonz XIII: To Boon or Not To Boon - [END]

[chkflip]

ACKTYULLEH

❚█══█❚ ContraBoon'd ❚█══█❚


These are roles that are never allowed, not even as a variant role, however Extravaganza’s may use mechanics from this, a player cannot be the role themselves.


Non-Sane Cop, Blank Vig, Non-Sane or Quack Doctor, Cultist, Jester, Mafia Mason, Vanillaizer, Beloved Princess, Governor, Godfather, Percentage, Paranoid Gun Owner

[Haggle]

Mechtown:
chkflip - miller
50 Judge Power - weak hider*
Latias and Latios - odd night weak hider*

Other claims:
Joan de Arc + Dr Drew - someone put the to a neighborhood.

*Hiders die if they visit someone who returns guilty to cop - GF is immune to this and likely to exist.

Thanks, this is helpful. I disagree with some of the mechtown suggestions, but I'll read the thread before making comments.

If you can't handle me at my worst, you don't deserve me at my best.

-Hectic

[chkflip]

Calm down, Marilyn. Nobody's interested.

[BrightEyedFish]

What are your reads looking like, Fish?

737

Is where my head is at right now. Everyone else I'm working on. Consider all the claimed roles getting the benefit of the doubt atm.

[Haggle]

Calm down, Marilyn. Nobody's interested.

I'm just imparting the thread with some wisdom. P.S: I appreciate you saving me from an embarrassing Paranoid Gun Owner claim.

A bowl is most useful when it's empty.

-Hectic

[BrightEyedFish]

I'm just waiting on something that stands out that I can bite. But since I'm a fish it will probably be a lure and I will be reeled in, gutted and fried up for someone's dinner.

[Romeo and Juliet]

chkglip claimed miller.

Are neither of you signing your posts?
Will start my catchup later.

-Hectic

Each of us signs at least 50% of our posts, mate.

[chkflip]

No I read that, Fish. I was just hoping you had a little more in you.

Is "mate" person Gamma?

[Romeo and Juliet]

Romeo and Juliet - [Chennis + Asriel Dreemurr]

Close enough, mate.

[Haggle]

chkglip claimed miller.

Are neither of you signing your posts?
Will start my catchup later.

-Hectic

Each of us signs at least 50% of our posts, mate.

After a quick ISO, I would... disagree with that. Assuming the posts with "mate" are from Asriel.

-Hectic

[BrightEyedFish]

No I read that, Fish. I was just hoping you had a little more in you.

Is "mate" person Gamma?

Ok, Out of the most active players, with gun to the head, the ones that give me pause are: titus, rce and R&J. However, I wouldn't label them as solid SRs atm.

[BrightEyedFish]

based on guts, vibes etc.

[chkflip]

Oh LatLat has Gamma. God I hate hydras.

FISHEHHHHH thank you.

Is there any connection between those three names or are they independently pinging you?

[Venus and Mars]

Chk and BEF are obviously still town.

If AF keeps doubting the miller claim, I’m going to start getting suspicious.

~Mars

[BrightEyedFish]

Oh LatLat has Gamma. God I hate hydras.

FISHEHHHHH thank you.

Is there any connection between those three names or are they independently pinging you?

Independently

[Venus and Mars]

And in the event one or both hit scum, no idea who was targeted.

This is why R & J’s idea of throwing out 3 possible targets (or even 2) is preferable. Also, crumbing is also a good idea. That’s what Maria hydra did in Undertale.

~M

[Frank]

Spoiler: thoughts up to page 20. please read, questions inside.

Hello, I have not read the game yet but I am 100% certain in these reads:

50 Judge Powers: town, trust me on this.
LoserdudeOG: newbtown
Haggle - [Billy Pilgrim + Hectic]: gut scumread
Joan of Arc: actually the devil.
Chara: Mason with Asriel Hydra, but still rolled scum
Latias and Latios - [Chemist1422 + Gamma Emerald]: obvtown
BrightEyedFish: ML bait
Espressojet: newbscum
Amrun: confident meta townread
Bambi Jay: definitely a lyncher on Elsa Jay
AaronFrost: null, just can’t read him
RCEnigma: leanscum
Venus and Mars - [Shiro + Nancy Drew 39]: Deepwolf option
Emperor flippyNips: Scummy town
Frank: 100% Jester read
Doctor Drew: gut town despite being incredibly scummy
Karnage: Mafia aligned, possibly the GF
Romeo and Juliet [Chennis + Asriel]: Mason with Chara
Titus: Probably Post-Restricted Mafia
chkflip: obv cult recruit
davesaz: TWTBAW

Sheep me and we should win this game
-Latios

ew

And I'm only confident of the top 3

You mean top 4 (add me to your list)

Actually, you asking for it so boldly (or maybe "baldly" as it is the case for a 52 year old monkey) is a good sign for you. Done (for me, but I don't speak for the Judge, and AP isn't interested in fish without chips)

~Monkey-man

you're confidently TRing me for my boldness too then right?

I'm interested in the Shakespeare theory actually.

Namely that scum have some form of Shakespeare in their pms but they are afraid they don't match up in someway.

So when chkflip posts a null at best theory, they make an RVS wagon or endorse it to deflect.

Its mod confirmed flavor doesn't have bearing on alignment. So while the idea fits within the flavor narrative I don't think it would work in that way.

Not sure either, but the patterns of behavior don't make sense. Boon usually makes his games better but his role pm didn't include a sample flavor formatting.

Usually there's multiple RVS wagons. Didn't happen here. Why? It's an aberration I rarely see.

I have seen scum not know things in the sample PM. That's why chkflip's push isn't scummy.

this entire discussion confuses the hell out of me but my gut says titus is towny for pushing her thoughts on it so hard

No one can confirm or disprove a miller on d1.

FFS, I just did. I bloody

confirmed

there is a miller in play, and chkflip is the only Miller claim, so his claim is valid and confirmed.

I guess I missed wherever this happened

Where is your quote located in the PM? Do not describe more.

At the risk of being attacked as a hypocrite, I think this is bad hat.

why?

Where is your quote located in the PM? Do not describe more.

At the risk of being attacked as a hypocrite, I think this is bad hat.

Why?

It's the very reason I think you were wagoned. Scum lack the knowledge is my theory.

No I get what you're getting at. But if I were scum and caught for something like the placement of flavor in my role pm.

A.) I'd be pissed and 2.) It would probably kill my desire to play mafia.

oh okay yeah. Definitely hypocritical. RCE's request to nancy was potentially more damning and also required her to break the rules to answer it, so I don't buy the hate of angleshooting he suggests here.

STOP trying to outgame the system. STOP.

Why can't you guys just play the game

Instead of relying on stupid gambits to prop up a lack of ability to read this game just PLAY

big +1

Nancy stop with meta. I detest meta. I also can't recognize what this is.

@titus what is this in reference to? I have a follow up question but I'd like to make sure I'm not wrongly assuming what you're even talking about here.

If I were scum all I'd have to do is scream PLAY THE GAME and I'd garner a lot of easy townreads

As town right now I'm finding it hard to garner reads so now it's harder to distinguish my alignment because I can't get good reads, etc.

Do you see the issue here?

Chen

RaJ is town

VOTE: Chara

The very post you quoted isn't fluff any more than Chenn bitching is.

@Chenn, if we go strictly optimal random votes are better.

I'm starting to lose titus here. Chalking it up to "Chenn bitching" is unfair to him because he isn't just complaining about the practice but saying that it's hindering his ability to form reads and be proactive. What good does it do to chalk that up to bitching? It's basically a way to invalidate him fmpov.

She hasn’t even given a single reason for sr my slot, other than she thinks I’m A50’s buddy. I think she’s doing that because when we flip town, she can then push A50. But if she switches to A50, then she confitowns me.

what

VOTE: Chara

The very post you quoted isn't fluff any more than Chenn bitching is.

@Chenn, if we go strictly optimal random votes are better.

hahaha. it's been a while, Titus. do you have something against giving Aaron a little push to content-post?

flashbacks from Large Normal 223 | New Beginnings begin to torment me

VOTE: Chara

The very post you quoted isn't fluff any more than Chenn bitching is.

@Chenn, if we go strictly optimal random votes are better.

But Chara is actually right, I just checked. Is AF your buddy or are you just simply flailing now?

No. Stating A50 has too many posts and doesn't read so he's detrimental to town is not fluff.

I don't care if you vote AF or not. I don't have an independent read there but saying AF is fluffing is dishonest.

I am so torn on this slot. There's so many things I can point out and say "hey I really disagree with this and find it to be scummy" but then I think about what Titus meta I know and want to lean town on her. Although she clearly detests meta and wants it to be left out, so maybe I should just default to a scum read. It's what she'd want.

i'm also in the camp of there being no way Boon formatted scum and town PMs differently. it just doesn't make sense.

inconsistent formatting isn't a new thing for Boon. ;> it came up in the last game too.

and hello Dredd! i don't believe we've met as far as my memory goes, but correct me if i'm wrong.

+1

Exactly and that ironically is the scummiest part of her push on me.

Oh whaddya know, more fuckholes protecting you?

This is why I hate D1. People block me from sorting, make stupid votes and are annoying.

I'll take my football go home and solve the game tmo if this post rate keeps up with others besides A50 and Nancy posting.

If all of your sorting wasn't angleshooting I would care to humor this thought but tbh I'm glad your methods aren't catching on

side note: I'm liking chara's entrance to the game and think it shows it's genuinely here to scumhunt.

I -in fact- wanted to be engaged so hard that it hit me that if I made this hydra I'd be able to respond to almost everything. If A50 normally wouldn't respond to it then JJD may, and if both will ignore it AP will certainly find something to say about it. If a post was too long to read then one (AP most likely) will try to dissect it into pieces, skew the wording and still find something -sexually suggestive- to comment on!

So, again: How am I not ducking reading??

man I don't even mind if

he

they make

s

50% of the posts this game because it's hilarious

and increasingly town indicative as far as the role tell thing goes.

Didn't you just confirm you were 3P aligned???

Where?

There/ Right fucking there:

We claim survivours

Is/was this a serious claim or a meme?

Yes.

I merely confirmed, that it was either a serious claim or a meme. Where can you see me claiming it was a serious claim, mate?

ok the gig is up, please clarify (I'm sure you probably have by now but sheesh)

A50/JJD (not AP)

does your hiding protect you from

everything

that people give/do to you at night (again, not for AP to answer ) or just from bullets and knives and other dangerous stuff?

Of course, I am the type to think Benedict Arnold is too obvious and the town idiot is the traitor soo...

was that garmr or cliff? I'm still upset that LUV never released the mafia PT

[Venus and Mars]

Explain the ONE slot for 4 or 5 slots thing please.

I thought it was self-explanatory. X is not scum with any of A/B/C/D/E. We lynch X and if they flip red then A/B/C/D/E are all cleared. If they flip green then nothing has changed regarding A/B/C/D/E. What we don't do is lynch A/B/C/D/E in hopes to find a red flip between them to clear X, and if none was found then we eventually lynch X after 5 fucking mislynches for no reason but to kill the game pace (which is already below standard volume for a game this size, btw).

A/B/C/D/E are the hydras (4-5 depends on whether you count my slot as a hydra), and X is obviously the slot calling for their lynch. Guess who that is.

Mate, bussing exists.

Definitely possible but if so, the fact that he asked A50 to choose specifically between us, could be telling, because he was only focusing on the two most active hydras at the time.

What is obviously concerning about that specifically, is that I obviously know we’re town and other than us, your hydra is the towniest of the remaining hydras so if Drew is scum, I’d say your theory > A50’s makes more sense.

[chkflip]

For everyone to follow along at home: RCE is talking about this which VnM acknowledges in their first post (49). What truly frustrates me the most is that he's nonchalantly acting like wording it in that way is okay. That making the callback in that fashion is somehow as acceptable as simply saying "remember when" except it's

edgy

.

nah fam fuck that eat rope

Okay but can you explain exactly why this is scummy? Like why are you continuing to push this when after he explained the callback.

He's trying not to call any more attention onto the situation by acting oblivious in the obvious difference between "hey remember that time you posted a fake role PM? Lol" and "What's your win condition?"

It was VnM who said he has made strange plays and gotten overly defensive about them as scum when they blew up in his face.

So, my argument here is:
- this wasn't originally a play, simply a shitty callback
- I call him out; he doubles down, pleads ignorant
- VnM makes the point about meta
- I think he KNOWS his meta and is adapting

I mean, Jesus Christ, the game was a YEAR ago. You don't think he's paying attention to how he plays so he "gets better"?

I'm known for blinders, though, so I appreciate the question as it helps me sort out whether or not I'm blindly hatefucking a specific person or if my mentality still feels correct to me many pages later.

[Venus and Mars]

You said mafia should shoot him.

So? I am HIDING BEHIND HIM for starters. That means I die with him anyway, so why is he voting me if he's town?

And then you forgot the plan was for a Town Protector to protect my target tonight, so... ????

So, then your plan only works if a TP protects Drew, right?

Or mafia think there is a high chance of that happening.

Yeah, what makes it confusing to me is had A50 not said scum should shoot Drew, Drew’s A50 vote would then be a lot more suspicious but otoh, I honestly can’t see how Drew misses A50’s weak hider claim, when he’s been practically claiming almost every other post but he still shouldn’t be voting for him, now that it’s clear he is aware of it.

[Venus and Mars]

Sup dudes

VOTE: Haggle

soooo many hydras.

Great point, the lynch pool should only include the hydras.

VOTE: Haggle

Hectic only town reads me when I am scum, and scum reads me when I am town. Let's save him from the wifom nightmare.

Pre Edit: That's the spirit Aaron

Didn't realise this game had started so I've arrived a little late to the party, friends.
Drew and Aaron are both locktown based on this. Aaron should know that I never try and buddy him when I'm scum, so this should now make me locktown for him.

@mod:

As we are now mechanically town to each other, could a mason thread be created for us?

Meanwhile, Drew is scum since I'm townreading him.

Finger of Suspicion:

Drew

since I don't spot any votecounts.

-Hectic

How do you have an FOS on a slot you just called “locktown”? And I definitely don’t consider either one of them to be locktown at this point. The only thing AF has done other than fluff posting, is to doubt Chk miller claim, a claim that no one else seems to be questioning and not talk about anyone other than A50.

[Venus and Mars]

Calm down, Marilyn. Nobody's interested.

LMAO

[Doctor Drew]

Sup dudes

VOTE: Haggle

soooo many hydras.

Great point, the lynch pool should only include the hydras.

VOTE: Haggle

Hectic only town reads me when I am scum, and scum reads me when I am town. Let's save him from the wifom nightmare.

Pre Edit: That's the spirit Aaron

Didn't realise this game had started so I've arrived a little late to the party, friends.
Drew and Aaron are both locktown based on this. Aaron should know that I never try and buddy him when I'm scum, so this should now make me locktown for him.

@mod:

As we are now mechanically town to each other, could a mason thread be created for us?

Meanwhile, Drew is scum since I'm townreading him.

Finger of Suspicion:

Drew

since I don't spot any votecounts.

-Hectic

How do you have an FOS on a slot you just called “locktown”? And I definitely don’t consider either one of them to be locktown at this point. The only thing AF has done other than fluff posting, is to doubt Chk miller claim, a claim that no one else seems to be questioning and not talk about anyone other than A50.

Look at my sig in regards to Hectics read on me.

[Titus]

@Drew/Joan, When did you both get placed into this hood? I find this incredibly odd and suspicious.

[Titus]

Mechtown:
chkflip - miller
50 Judge Power - weak hider*
Latias and Latios - odd night weak hider*

Other claims:
Joan de Arc + Dr Drew - someone put the to a neighborhood.

*Hiders die if they visit someone who returns guilty to cop - GF is immune to this and likely to exist.

Ewwww