Newbie 1977 - Game Over

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Newbie 1977 - Game Over

Post Post #0 (ISO) » Mon Dec 30, 2019 6:07 am

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Newbie 1977
Moderated by Micc

Players:

GayBabyJailor mercutio, RS
72offsuit
dsjstr
NDMath
Non Imh Royee
Yodavader
Egix96 (SE)
Formerfish (SE)
Alexcellent (SE)

SE - indicates a Semi-Experienced player, a player who has played at least two games on MafiaScum.net

Spoiler: Alive
Egix96
, a
Mafia Rolecop
, survived.

Spoiler: Dead
Non Ihm
, a
Vanilla Townie
, was lynched Day 1.
72offsuit
, a
Vanilla Townie
, was killed Night 1.
Yodavader
, a
Mafia Goon
, was lynched Day 2.
dsjstr
, a
Town Tracker
, was killed Night 2.
NDMath
, a
Vanilla Townie
, was lynched Day 3.
GayBabyJailor
, a
Town Friendly Neighbor
, was killed Night 3.
Formerfish
, a
Vanilla Townie
, was lynched Day 4.
Alexcellent
, a
Vanilla Townie
, was endgamed Day 4.

Important Events:

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Post Post #1 (ISO) » Mon Dec 30, 2019 6:07 am

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Game Rules


General Rules/Game Etiquette
  1. Obey all Site-wide Rules.
  2. Communication outside the thread (if your role specifically allows it) is allowed until the game begins.
  3. You may not quote private communication of any kind. This includes moderator-supplied information (either real or fabricated) of any kind. Paraphrasing (for role claims, etc.) is acceptable.
  4. There is to be NO personal communication outside of the forum postings unless your role PM specifically allows it.
Activity/Prods/Replacements
  1. Prods of missing players will be issued after 36 hours of no activity.
  2. A prodded player has 24 hours to respond to the prod, after which time a replacement search will begin. The prodded player may re-enter the game so long as no replacement has been found.
  3. A player who has been prodded 3 times is subject to possible replacement without further notice.
  4. If you anticipate being unavailable for more than 36 hours please PM me or post in the thread to declare V/LA.
  5. I reserve the right to force replace players who need extensively long V/LA at my own discretion.
Deadlines
  1. Deadlines for this game will be 10 days for Day 1 and 7 days for following Day Phases. Night Phases will last 48 hours.
  2. Extensions are given only in extreme circumstances.
  3. If you have a role with a Night action your choices are due to me by the posted deadline. If I do not receive your choice via PM by the posted deadline you will forfeit your actions.
Player Actions/Voting/Player Death
  1. A simple majority of all living players must agree on one person (via voting) for a Lynch to occur (simple majority = ½ # of living players +1, rounded down). If no one has a simple majority of votes at deadline a No Lynch will occur.
  2. Votes must be bolded or use the [.vote] tags to be counted (e.g.
    Vote: Player
    or VOTE: Player).
  3. Unvotes are not necessary before changing votes.
  4. You may
    Vote: No Lynch
    - a simple majority of these vote types are required to send the game to Night phase without a Lynch.
  5. Votes made using nicknames or abbreviations will be counted at my discretion. Fake vote gambits should be executed at your own peril. If I think its a vote, then its a vote.
Miscellaneous
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  2. Any situation not explicitly covered above is subject to my discretion and will be handled as I see fit on a case-by-case basis.
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Post Post #2 (ISO) » Mon Dec 30, 2019 6:08 am

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Setup Information

NewD3 (as designed by RadiantCowbells):

ABC
Mafia
Mafia Roleblocker
Mafia Rolecop
Mafia Goon
Row 1
Town Cop and Town Doctor
Town Tracker and Town Friendly Neighbor
Town Cop and Vanilla Townie
Row 2
Town Jailkeeper and Town Tracker
Town Jailkeeper and Town Friendly Neighbor
Town Jailkeeper and Vanilla Townie
Row 3
Town Mason and Town Mason
Town Tracker and Town Doctor
Town Mason and Town Mason

Each Newbie Game will be given a setup that incorporates one mafia role from the top of a column, and then two town roles from a row below the selected mafia role.
The remaining six roles will be filled in by
one mafia goon
and
five vanilla townies
appropriately, to create a
2-mafia
and
7-town
setup.

All Newbie games use the Natural Action Resolution system for determining Night action effects.
Mafia Roleblocker
action takes precedence over a
Town Jailkeeper
action should that apply.

Mafia are able to communicate in their Private Topic at all times.

Spoiler: List of Setups
Column A & Row 1:
Mafia Roleblocker, Mafia Goon, Town Cop, Town Doctor, Vanilla Townie x 5
Column A & Row 2:
Mafia Roleblocker, Mafia Goon, Town Jailkeeper, Town Tracker, Vanilla Townie x 5
Column A & Row 3:
Mafia Roleblocker, Mafia Goon, Town Mason x2, Vanilla Townie x 5
Column B & Row 1:
Mafia Rolecop, Mafia Goon, Town Tracker, Town Friendly Neighbor, Vanilla Townie x 5
Column B & Row 2:
Mafia Rolecop, Mafia Goon, Town Jailkeeper, Town Friendly Neighbor, Vanilla Townie x 5
Column B & Row 3:
Mafia Rolecop, Mafia Goon, Town Tracker, Town Doctor, Vanilla Townie x 5
Column C & Row 1:
Mafia Goon x 2, Town Cop, Vanilla Townie x 6
Column C & Row 2:
Mafia Goon x 2, Town Jailkeeper, Vanilla Townie x 6
Column C & Row 3:
Mafia Goon x 2, Town Mason x2, Vanilla Townie x 5

Spoiler: Sample Role PM's
Vanilla TownieWelcome!

You are a
Vanilla Townie
.

You have no special abilities.

You win when all threats to the Town have been eliminated.


The game thread is here.

Confirm by replying with your role name and alignment.

Town JailkeeperWelcome!

You are a
Town Jailkeeper
.

You may target one player per night phase. This player will be protected from kills and be prevented from using their own action, if they have one, during that night phase. You cannot target yourself.

You win when all threats to the Town have been eliminated.


The game thread is here.

Confirm by replying with your role name and alignment.

Town CopWelcome!

You are a
Town Cop
.

You may target one player per night phase. At the end of the night phase, you will be informed if they are
Town
or
Mafia
. If you are roleblocked, you will receive no result.

You win when all threats to the Town have been eliminated.


The game thread is here.

Confirm by replying with your role name and alignment.

Town MasonWelcome!

You are a
Town Mason
.

You know that PLAYER NAME is Town-aligned. You also share a Private Thread (PT), located here, where you may talk at any time.

You have no active abilities.

You win when all threats to the Town have been eliminated.


The game thread is here.

Confirm by replying with your role name and alignment or by posting in your PT.

Town TrackerWelcome!

You are a
Town Tracker
.

You may target one player per night phase. At the end of the night phase, you will be informed what player or players they targeted with their action, if any. If you are roleblocked, you will receive no result.

You win when all threats to the Town have been eliminated.


The game thread is here.

Confirm by replying with your role name and alignment.

Town DoctorWelcome!

You are a
Town Doctor
.

You may target one player per night phase. This player will be protected from kills during that night phase. You cannot target yourself.

You win when all threats to the Town have been eliminated.


The game thread is here.

Confirm by replying with your role name and alignment.


Town Friendly NeighborWelcome!

You are a
Town Friendly Neighbor
.

You may target one player per night phase. This player will be sent a message informing them that you are Town-aligned.

You win when all threats to the Town have been eliminated.


The game thread is here.

Confirm by replying with your role name and alignment.


Mafia GoonWelcome!

You are a
Mafia Goon
.

Your partner is PLAYERNAME who is a
Mafia Goon/Roleblocker/Rolecop
. Together you share a factional kill each night. You must choose which of you will commit the kill. You also share a factional Private Thread (PT), located here, where you may talk at any time.

You win when the Town has been eliminated, or nothing can stop this from occurring.


The game thread is here.

Confirm by replying with your role name and alignment or by posting in your PT.

Mafia RolecopWelcome!

You are a
Mafia Rolecop
.

You may target one player per night phase. At the end of the night phase, you will be informed of their role but not their alignment.
Vanilla Townies
and
Mafia Goons
will both return "Vanilla". If you are roleblocked, you will receive no result.

Your partner is PLAYERNAME who is a
Mafia Goon
. Together you share a factional kill each night. You must choose which of you will commit the kill. You also share a factional Private Thread (PT), located here, where you may talk at any time.

You win when the Town has been eliminated, or nothing can stop this from occurring.


The game thread is here.

Confirm by replying with your role name and alignment or by posting in your PT.

Mafia RoleblockerWelcome!

You are a
Mafia Roleblocker
.

You may target one player per night. This player will be prevented from performing their own action, if any.

Your partner is PLAYERNAME who is a
Mafia Goon
. Together you share a factional kill each night. You must choose which of you will commit the kill. You also share a factional Private Thread (PT), located here, where you may talk at any time.

You win when the Town has been eliminated, or nothing can stop this from occurring.


The game thread is here.

Confirm by replying with your role name and alignment or by posting in your PT.
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Post Post #3 (ISO) » Mon Dec 30, 2019 6:08 am

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Introduction and Tips


Here are some helpful links (a lot of them from our helpful wiki):

-> Forum Rules and Guidelines
-> The Glossary
-> Commonly Used Abbreviations
-> The Newbie Guide
-> Articles on How to Play Well (be sure to check the dates these were written/updated, as good advice changes over time)


Key Concepts and Tips


Activity


Try to check in at least once a day.
Besides the activity requirements listed in Plotinus' original post, it's just necessary for a fun and healthy game that everyone
plays
. If you post very rarely, or only post a little bit at a time, you may get scumread for lurking. Even if you are not scumread for it, what's the fun in playing a game where multiple people are hardly participating?

Site Meta


Meta is the description of how people on Mafiascum like to play mafia. Things can be different on other online mafia sites, or if you play IRL, so it's good to know what's expected of you on this site. These aren't "rules", per se, but if you don't follow these guidelines it is likely things will go poorly for you on MS. Some examples are...

Random Voting Stage (RVS)

Games on MafiaScum almost always begin with what we call the Random Voting Stage (RVS). At this point in the game, we are in a low information game state (except the mafia, which know everyone’s alignment). As a way to provoke reaction, start a discussion, and try to determine alignment, people will usually vote for non-serious reasons. As the discussion progresses, we will eventually get the game moving and progress out of RVS.

Voting, L-x, and Hammers

L-x is a way to convey how far away a player is away from a lynch. For example, you should always announce that you are putting someone at L-1 (1 vote away from a lynch) so that someone doesn’t come along and accidentally vote for that players lynch. This also prevents Mafia-aligned players from coming along and placing the final vote to lynch (“hammer”) and claiming ignorance about doing so. You may also see L-2 and L-3 (2 votes away from a lynch and 3 votes away from a lynch, respectively).

Before you hammer a player, state your intent to hammer (usually done in bold) and ask the player to claim their role. This is done to prevent power roles from being lynched, and can sometimes get Mafia-aligned players to be caught (via counter claiming). It's best to then allow other players to react and discuss the claim before hammering.


Claiming Your Role

It is almost always best to not claim your role unless you are at L-1 and have been asked to claim as part of an “intent to hammer.” This is because, as a town power role (“PR”), if you out prematurely, you are likely to be night-killed (“NK’d”). As a Vanilla Townie (“VT”), claiming early helps the mafia team narrow down the setup and possible PR candidates. An exception to this would be if a mafia player claimed your role, claiming early to counter the false claim (“CC”) would out the mafia player, and would be a benefit to the town.

Do not fake claim a power role as town!
While it may help you avoid getting lynched, you might cause a real PR to out themselves by counter claiming - then the mafia will know who the PR is, and you will probably get lynched for lying to town. Feel free to fake a claim as scum, though, if you think it would help.

LyLo

LyLo is the shortened representation of “lynch or lose.” LyLo in the Newbie Queue is when there are 3 remaining players, 2 of which are town and 1 is mafia; or when there are 5 remaining players, 3 of which are town and 2 are mafia. It is important in these situations that the town aligned players do not carelessly vote like is done during RVS or early days, as the mafia player(s) can organize and instantly provide the necessary votes to lynch (“quickhammer”) and win the game.

Conclusion

Mafia is hard!
As town, it can be hard to figure things out, and stressful when people think you're scum.
That's okay!
Just share your thoughts on who you think is scum as they come to you, and don't be afraid to change your mind. As scum, it can be hard to lie convincingly, and stressful when people think you're scum. Don't let that scare you! Try to think of what you would post if you were town, and don't be afraid to "change your mind".

This is a game.
Have fun!
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Post Post #4 (ISO) » Mon Dec 30, 2019 6:28 am

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Role PM's have been sent. Please confirm you've read your Role PM by responding using the method described and let me know if you have any questions.

If enough players have confirmed, the game will begin in (expired on 2019-12-31 13:30:00).
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Post Post #5 (ISO) » Tue Dec 31, 2019 6:28 am

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RS has (expired on 2020-01-01 13:30:00) to confirm before I begin searching for a replacement. Everyone else has confirmed.

It is now Day 1.


Votecount 1.00
Not Voting (9) -
RS, 72offsuit, dsjstr, NDMath, Royee, Yodavader, Egix96, Formerfish, Alexcellent

With 9 players alive it takes 5 votes to lynch.

The deadline for Day 1 is paused at 10 days until all players have confirmed.
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Post Post #6 (ISO) » Tue Dec 31, 2019 6:35 am

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hello?
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Post Post #7 (ISO) » Tue Dec 31, 2019 6:36 am

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ah 10 days for a whole day, who would have thought so.
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Post Post #8 (ISO) » Tue Dec 31, 2019 6:45 am

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In post 7, Royee wrote:ah 10 days for a whole day, who would have thought so.
How long do you think it should be? Shorter or Longer?

VOTE: dsjstr
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Post Post #9 (ISO) » Tue Dec 31, 2019 6:52 am

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In post 8, NDMath wrote:
In post 7, Royee wrote:ah 10 days for a whole day, who would have thought so.
How long do you think it should be? Shorter or Longer?

VOTE: dsjstr
I think it should be shorter since I hate long games.
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Post Post #10 (ISO) » Tue Dec 31, 2019 7:00 am

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We can make this a quick game

VOTE: Royee
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Post Post #11 (ISO) » Tue Dec 31, 2019 7:01 am

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For you :twisted:
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Post Post #12 (ISO) » Tue Dec 31, 2019 7:03 am

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I totally agree
VOTE: Royee
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Post Post #13 (ISO) » Tue Dec 31, 2019 8:26 am

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Bet today is going to be slow because of New Years.
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Post Post #14 (ISO) » Tue Dec 31, 2019 12:09 pm

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I didn't expect to be in this game. I'm not sure what direction imma go in yet.

I'll vote for anyone who thinks they are good enough to be the lynch.

VOTE: Roy

Self voting is bad m'kay
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Post Post #15 (ISO) » Tue Dec 31, 2019 12:43 pm

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L-2 btw
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Post Post #16 (ISO) » Tue Dec 31, 2019 1:11 pm

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In post 9, Royee wrote:
In post 8, NDMath wrote:
In post 7, Royee wrote:ah 10 days for a whole day, who would have thought so.
How long do you think it should be? Shorter or Longer?

VOTE: dsjstr
I think it should be shorter since I hate long games.
Lol you picked the wrong se to play with if you don't like long games

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Post Post #17 (ISO) » Tue Dec 31, 2019 4:08 pm

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Good lord VOTE: FormerFish I don't think I have a 200+ page game in me so you gotta go mate
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Post Post #18 (ISO) » Tue Dec 31, 2019 4:10 pm

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What kind of maf experience do you have Royee?
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Post Post #19 (ISO) » Tue Dec 31, 2019 5:56 pm

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Re: Newbie 1977 - Day 1
Sent: Wed Jan 01, 2020 2:52 pm
by 72offsuit

Hi all,

I've played a few mafia games online in short form on another website and enjoy playing social deduction board games, such as secret hitler, the resistance, bang! , but oddly never werewolf.

Vote: Yodavader

- anyoneone with vader in their name must be evil.

Happy New Year everyone!
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Post Post #20 (ISO) » Tue Dec 31, 2019 6:01 pm

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Formerfish wrote:
In post 9, Royee wrote:
In post 8, NDMath wrote:
In post 7, Royee wrote:ah 10 days for a whole day, who would have thought so.
How long do you think it should be? Shorter or Longer?

VOTE: dsjstr
I think it should be shorter since I hate long games.
Lol you picked the wrong se to play with if you don't like long games

Quake with fear and then urinate in your seat.
226 is a slightly larger number than 24.
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Post Post #21 (ISO) » Tue Dec 31, 2019 6:42 pm

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In post 14, Formerfish wrote:I didn't expect to be in this game. I'm not sure what direction imma go in yet.

I'll vote for anyone who thinks they are good enough to be the lynch.

VOTE: Roy

Self voting is bad m'kay
Self voting in RvS is NAI. And is ok to do. Self voting in late stage is questionable and can be AI.
The fact you vote me based on an argument which you haven't explained nor bothered to dig in makes me feel awkward towards your post.
Saying "m'kay" doesn't end the cycle.
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Post Post #22 (ISO) » Tue Dec 31, 2019 6:43 pm

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First off, Happy New Year to everyone.

Second off, 72 should vote properly.

Third off, VOTE: 72, OMGUS, lol

Fourth off, there is no fourth off...
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Post Post #23 (ISO) » Tue Dec 31, 2019 6:46 pm

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In post 15, dsjstr wrote:L-2 btw
Doesn't matter I can unvote.
In post 16, Formerfish wrote:
In post 9, Royee wrote:
In post 8, NDMath wrote:
In post 7, Royee wrote:ah 10 days for a whole day, who would have thought so.
How long do you think it should be? Shorter or Longer?

VOTE: dsjstr
I think it should be shorter since I hate long games.
Lol you picked the wrong se to play with if you don't like long games

Quake with fear and then urinate in your seat.
Actually I think this site might suit my playstyle. 10 days for a day means less stress. Less stress means less posts. In a 48 hours day game, I find myself waking in the morning just to find more 20 pages to read and catch up. It drops my WIM to zero.
In post 18, Alexcellent wrote:What kind of maf experience do you have Royee?
Wdym by experience?
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Post Post #24 (ISO) » Tue Dec 31, 2019 6:47 pm

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@72: Plus, I have Yoda in my name, so that must mean that I'm cute and lovable and would hurt no one ever, unless you are trying to hurt my dad and then I will force choke the crap out of you

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