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[Flavor Leaf]

I wanna know what love is

[Flavor Leaf]

Day 1

JacksonVirgo [7]: MariaR, Zote the Mighty, Espressojet, Dolly Parton, Nero Cain, Rabid Schnauzer, Flavor Leaf
Gamma Emerald

Rabid Schnauzer [4]: Dunnstral, Frank, JacksonVirgo, Amrun

Not Voting [3]: Elsa Jay, Lil Uzi Vert, Wake88

Gamma Emerald is technically an 8th vote and was unnecessary, but it’s reflected on the vote count.

Most Current

Dolly Parton [1]: Zote The Mighty

Elsa Jay [1]: Nero Cain

Flavor Leaf [4]: Frank, Rabid Schanuzzer, MariaR, Dolly Parton

MariaR [4]: Dunnstral, Lil Uzi Vert, Espressojet, Gamma Emerald

Not Voting [2]: Elsa Jay, Wake88

The Amrun kill implies scum wanted to kill someone off of the JV wagon, which means there’s likely multiple on there, at least 2. 15 player game, I imagine 4 scum. At least one off the wagon. Amrun dying takes pressure off of Rabid, along with JV dying, which split the Rabid wagon from Day 1 in half.

This is extra interesting because currently not a single player is on Rabid. I’m actually going to count Gamma Emerald as off the wagon for clarity’s sake.

I’ll also put myself on the lists, just so you guys don’t see it like “you’re just scum keeping yourself off”. I know the solve doesn’t include me because I’m town.

Pool #1: The JV wagon

At least 2 scum are in this.

MariaR
Zote the Mighty
Espressojet
Dolly Parton
Nero Cain
Rabid Schnauzer
Flavor Leaf

Pool #2:

Off The JV wagon

At least 1 scum is in this.

Frank
Dunnstral
Elsa Jay
Lil Uzi Vert
Wake88

Pool #3:

The FL wagon.

At least 1 scum is on this.

Frank
Rabid
MariaR
Dolly


Pool #4:

The Maria Wagon

At least 1 scum is on this.

Dunnstral
Lil Uzi Vert
Espressojet
Gamma Emerald


Pool #5:

Avoidance of the FL/Maria wagons:

At least 1 scum is here.

Elsa Jay
Wake88
Zote
Nero


The reason 3/4 exist is because I am currently not even on Maria, but Maria is on me, which implies that Maria is the wagon that is more likely to go through based on Wagonomics. Now, is she scum and scum is trying to avoid this, or is she town being mislynched is the question.

[Flavor Leaf]

Now the biggest stand out for me personally is the Rabid wagon day 1.

If Rabid is town, and Dunn is actually inno’d like was said, this means Frank being town would require the Rabid wagon to be all town on town, which I don’t buy. If that were the case, I don’t ever see JV wagon going through.

This means that we have a new pool.

Pool #6:

At least 1 of these are scum. I think it’s possible they both are even, but it’s never TvT.

Frank
Rabid

[Flavor Leaf]

I’m going to do some cross canceling based on my own analysis. Do with this what you will, feel free to do your own analysis with the pools.


Pool #1: The JV wagon

At least 2 scum are in this.

MariaR

I do think Maria is the most likely to be lynched from Wagonomics, so I kind of want to say she’s town here. Unless she’s scum who’s given up, but I don’t think it’s too hard for scum to avoid a Maria lynch, so I wanna gut say they are town. I could be wrong.

Zote the Mighty
Espressojet
Dolly Parton

Nero Cain

i don’t think Nero is scum based on their elsa push right now, and the fact that they easily could pile onto either myself or Maria, which would be 2 strong lynches. From my POV, Nero doesn’t make sense to be scum with Maria ever, or else he’s actively letting her go down.

Rabid Schnauzer

Flavor Leaf

this is for my own analysis, so I’m cutting myself out. If I die, please look at this post.

Pool #2:

Off The JV wagon

At least 1 scum is in this.

Frank

Dunnstral

regardless of LUV’s alignment, I think this becomes town based on LUV’s actions.

Elsa Jay

Lil Uzi Vert

are we believing this? If we are, then it’s a clear. @LUV - can you just full claim?

Wake88

Pool #3:

The FL wagon.

At least 1 scum is on this. I could see there being 2 here right now, tbh.

Frank
Rabid

MariaR

Dolly

Pool #4:

The Maria Wagon

At least 1 scum is on this.

Dunnstral
Lil Uzi Vert

Espressojet
Gamma Emerald

Pool #5:

Avoidance of the FL/Maria wagons:

At least 1 scum is here.

Elsa Jay
Wake88
Zote

Nero

Pool #6

Frank
Rabid

[Flavor Leaf]

I think my way too early solve is...

Dolly Parton, Zote the Mighty, Gamma Emerald, Frank scum team.


You can sub in Elsa/Rabid in there somewhere, and if LUV/Maria is scum, that changes as well, but from where I’m at now, that’s the scum team I’m feeling. It hits all the marks that I was looking into. My biggest biggest thing is Rabid not having a wagon now, but that actually has merit to it because JV and Amrun are dead, and Frank kept his read, but is on me for some reason that I have no clue.

[Flavor Leaf]

I’m town reading Espressojet, so while he’s on some of those, I just don’t feel he’s scum.

Wake I just feel isn’t doing anything if they are scum, and I feel scum are more attentive than that.

[Flavor Leaf]

So the chances that someone else is lynched instead of you. Or is your lynch what's best for town?

Wouldn't that be scum motivated survival if LUV was basically like "I don't care who gets lynched as long as it's not me"? I don't get what you're asking him here

town!luv would only be aware of HIS alignment and should be against his MISLYNCH. If he KNOWS he is town then he should help us lynch another slot. If we are just doing a "Day 1, Shoot in the dark" lynch then he would know that lynching blinding anywhere else gives us a better shot at hitting scum.

Same logic applies to LUV being scum too fool! He'd want to redirect the lynch onto someone who isn't himself or his buddies.

VOTE: Wake

I will switch my vote to any guilty FL lets us know about. But if he keeps the info to his self then we will have to lynch him today.

Yes lynch the claimed watcher before he outs his results. Smart idea fool.

Are we all just forgetting that Wake already claimed watcher?

Now bringing actual analysis from non wagonomics, I feel this is extremely scum indicative of Zote and the way they are communicating with a partner. It looks like they are actively trying to show that they are talking to Dolly, and look where Zote’s vote is currently, on Dolly. That’s not real.

[Flavor Leaf]

Amrun? Interesting nk. What does it mean?

Pedit.
Oh

Veryyyyy interesting....

I’m a Weak watcher, I targeted Amrun, and I got a guilty on 2 people last night.

Welll... How long do we have to wait

I’m a Weak watcher, I targeted Amrun, and I got a guilty on 2 people last night.

Whut.

2 people murdered Amrun?

It could have been an investive I guess

Well then I guess I'd rather Flavor out only the one he thinks is bad and not the investigative then.

He could vote the one he finds scummiest and we all just sheep him and the he only outs the 2nd if we mislynch.

Or we just wait and let everyone chime in and see if FL squeeze any extra info out.

Make the scum squirm a little.

These are the posts Dolly made after I claimed my watcher on Amrun. This looks generally concerned and also putting up a show.

Plus, the “Amrun kill, what does it mean” is incredibly contrived.

This also makes me feel like Dolly is scum who did NOT make the scum night kill.

[Flavor Leaf]

are you suggesting that he not out his result b/c that seems insanely dumb.

are you suggesting that he not out his result b/c that seems insanely dumb.

I think we don't want to out a pro-town role

Is that the smartest plan here?

Townie af reactions to the watcher claim

[Flavor Leaf]

Too much foreplay FL, spill it

I mean Lip

are you suggesting that he not out his result b/c that seems insanely dumb.

I think we don't want to out a pro-town role

I think the trade off of catching one scum is worth the chance of outing another TPR.

He should out the one he thinks is scum but not out the other one.

Zote and Frank talks. Zote’s doing damage control. Frank is trying to get me to out early.

I don’t believe Frank made the night kill.

It was Zote or Gamma. Zote’s comments here imply that he could be trying to setup and act like he was a PR. I didn’t catch it at first, but looking back at it now, this definitely looks like he’s a bit worried about “being outed” and trying to make it so I only state 1 name, hope it isn’t them, and then they can kill me off later.

This checks out more because of Frank’s push on me.

[Flavor Leaf]

The one known as Flavor Leaf is semi-VLA so basically hr blue balled us and didn't give us anything elsa to talk about while he's away. So:

1: What was Amrun's Readlist? Was it good enough that scum killed them for it?
2: Does Their death town clear or scum lock anyone in particular?
3: any updates from anyone would be nice if they're thoughts are different now.

VOTE: Dunnstral

Don't be a douche, Dunn. Also please someone elsa comment because this phase will get boring if we wait only for Flavor to get back.

Townie af, Elsa. Townie af.

[Frank]

Sigh

[Flavor Leaf]

So are you folks not at all skeptical of Flavor's outlandish claim, or are you waiting for the rest of his claim before saying something? What's going on here

I'm starting to get skeptical since he has just teased us so far.

Wake being lurky makes me think he is one of the guiltys

VOTE: Wake

I will switch my vote to any guilty FL lets us know about. But if he keeps the info to his self then we will have to lynch him today.

but would scum!FL shoot Amrun N1? Guess it depends on the other scummers.

If we DO have a vig should they out themselves if they targeted Amrun last night?

Wake being lurky makes me think he is one of the guiltys

Slow down there cowboy

What isn't he the other watcher we have? It seems like he should have something for us. Besides he has posted elsewhere on site but not here.

This is a scum motivated series of posts.

The vig claim came off innocent enough, and then Dolly’s already starting to throw the shade onto Wake here.

I honestly believe Wake is town here not putting through an action.

Wake didn’t even try to counter me or even pay attention, he’s obviously not full in this game.

[Flavor Leaf]

Sigh

If it’s not you, it’s Rabid. You’re actually one of the ones I’m less sure on currently.

Dolly is lock scum, Zote is very likely scum.

[Flavor Leaf]

Rabid what are you doing?

2 guiltys
2 watcher claims

and you vote poor little ol' me?

I think you may in fact be rabid

not a snowball's chance in hell scum!rabid votes me right here. Rabid is conftown.

Rabid is probably upset at the conftown because that means he won't be SR anymore and will have to be a team player.

My response to my own response:

Don't fight it, rabid join us!!!

Don't be a lone Schnauzer this game!

This is 100% distancing away from Rabid in preparation or trying to tie associations to mislynch Rabid eventually.

Dolly never flips green here.


Also, Dunn has high high town equity this game based on his reaction towards me saying it was him and him saying so quickly and casually.

[Frank]

Sigh

If it’s not you, it’s Rabid. You’re actually one of the ones I’m less sure on currently.

Dolly is lock scum, Zote is very likely scum.

It's just
I'm frustrated with you
But I guess I can't blame you

I swear i'm never on the same page as you unless you're scum

But maybe that's a me problem

In a way I guess I should be happy on how little I agree with you but i'm not

[Flavor Leaf]

Rb tends to replace out as scum against me.

I think you’re my #4 pick for scum atm.

I can’t really explain scumGamma, though, I just really feel he’s scum.

The cross guard thing I mentioned earlier felt like it happened. His vote on Maria, and I feel he’s white knighting me.

I feel like Gamma has actively played in a way where by all means I should town read him, and I do town read him, which is why I’m scum reading him, because if I’m town reading Gamma, I should be soul reading him as town at this point, but it all feels contrived.

Dolly/Zote/Gamma, one of Frank/Rabid, I kind of want to switch them, because I know I town read Frank earlier for a reason.

[Flavor Leaf]

WAIT I MESSED UP IN THE POOL

[Flavor Leaf]

Gamma Emerald is supposed to be in Pool #2 because he was technically late for the JV, he just joined at the end after the hammer, so he is in this pool.

Pool #2:

Off The JV wagon

At least 1 scum is in this.

Frank

Dunnstral

regardless of LUV’s alignment, I think this becomes town based on LUV’s actions.

Elsa Jay

Lil Uzi Vert

are we believing this? If we are, then it’s a clear. @LUV - can you just full claim?

Wake88

Gamma Emerald

[Flavor Leaf]

Dolly, Zote, Gamma, Rabid is the scum team.

[Flavor Leaf]

@Wake - Watch Lil Uzi Vert tonight

@LUV - Investigate in those 4

[Flavor Leaf]

I also think Scum is abusing Espressojet, and they shift the gamestate to pushing for when he votes a townie.

He’s probably expected to be a late game mislynch.

[Flavor Leaf]

@Rabid - idk which one of you or Frank is scum, but if it’s Frank, please see me as town. You’re generally pretty good at reluctantly town reading me correctly, emphasis on the reluctant, even when people are pushing me as scum.

[Flavor Leaf]

@Gamma - I might just be paranoid, I guess, but yeah.


@Zote - you’re scum, I have nothing to converse with you

[Flavor Leaf]

Dolly and Gamma were 2 and 3 on the first JV wagon. They were then 3 and 2 on my wagon. These slots need attention.

Also, maria and FL are 2 and 3 on the current LUV wagon if you are using vote placements as SRs.

Gamma is first on LUV in this scenario, yes, but both Maria and I brought up going there early. This is a Careful timing of wording to push us.

And Rabid is 100% the type to shade his partners the way he is. He’s probably barely even communicating with them if they have day chat together.


Also, Zote was on dolly, but was looking for a way to move off in Elsa Jay.