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Post Post #3850 (ISO) » Mon Jan 13, 2020 2:19 pm

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Given an enchantress exists (creature block), I don't know A50 is clear.
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Post Post #3851 (ISO) » Mon Jan 13, 2020 2:19 pm

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just being roleblocked would accomplish exactly the same thing. still not sure what the heal has to do with it.

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Post Post #3852 (ISO) » Mon Jan 13, 2020 2:20 pm

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In post 3851, Chara wrote:just being roleblocked would accomplish exactly the same thing. still not sure what the heal has to do with it.

and hi drunk Titus.
I don't know if I was rbed though because of the heal. I just as m 99.9% true.
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Post Post #3853 (ISO) » Mon Jan 13, 2020 2:21 pm

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In post 3841, Venus and Mars wrote:
In post 3836, Chara wrote:
In post 3827, Venus and Mars wrote:Oh okay, because I definitely agree with her on the Joan part anyway. What do you think of Dave/Haggle saying that both Titus/A50 can’t be saying the truth wrt to their modifiers because I’m still not understanding that?
they're saying that Almost being Desperate and Weak doesn't make sense because Weak is redundant. weak makes you die on scum, Desperate makes you die on scum but also doesn't work on town. so, having both as Almost claims he does would be pointless, though depending on how trolly Boon is feeling not especially impossible.

since the conversation will only be resolved by Almost checking with Boon and making a statement to clarify his modifiers and what exactly they do, i don't know if it's fruitful now.

Disloyal =/= Desperate (which is what Almost claimed) though. they're definitely different modifiers in the list if you check.

pedit: Joan targeting Titus shouldn't affect her Almost clear, or rather lack thereof. he is confirmed scum by the neighbourizer working. since the neighbourizer didn't work, he's conftown, was not targetable last night, or Titus's action was blocked. her being protected or not shouldn't affect that, since even if Titus was protected from her dying on a scum Almost, her neighbourize should still have worked and given her the guilty on him.
it's the whole reason she asked for doc saves to begin with, in order to get her guilties without dying. so not sure why Titus said her being saved changed anything.
Oh okay, yeah so Titus being saved has no bearing on her neighbourize failing. Could she have been blocked? but what then accounts for Creature’s actions failing?

Enchantress.

It blocks the target and all investigations on the target.
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Post Post #3854 (ISO) » Mon Jan 13, 2020 2:22 pm

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*actions not investigatons
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Post Post #3855 (ISO) » Mon Jan 13, 2020 2:22 pm

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In post 3848, Amrun wrote:
In post 3833, RCEnigma wrote:
In post 3825, Venus and Mars wrote:
In post 3822, chkflip wrote:
You can have a town enabler for a scum role. And vice versa.


Just want to throw that out there since it doesn't appear to be that obvious to the peanut gallery. The longer they're both alive increases the likelihood of one flipping red.

That also assumes I believe the claim.

Which I don't, so, there's that.
Extremely unlikely.
Did finish a game not long ago with tracker enabler as a scum role. A50 was there. Mod was also there. So idk about highly unlikely.
I rep into this game, for example. Tracker was town, tracker enabler was scum.
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Post Post #3856 (ISO) » Mon Jan 13, 2020 2:25 pm

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In post 3852, Titus wrote:
In post 3851, Chara wrote:just being roleblocked would accomplish exactly the same thing. still not sure what the heal has to do with it.

and hi drunk Titus.
I don't know if I was rbed though because of the heal. I just as m 99.9% true.
why would the heal stop your neighbourizer from working?
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Post Post #3857 (ISO) » Mon Jan 13, 2020 2:29 pm

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In post 3856, Chara wrote:
In post 3852, Titus wrote:
In post 3851, Chara wrote:just being roleblocked would accomplish exactly the same thing. still not sure what the heal has to do with it.

and hi drunk Titus.
I don't know if I was rbed though because of the heal. I just as m 99.9% true.
why would the heal stop your neighbourizer from working?
It wouldn't but it's a factor to be considered as I have zero idea on alignment because enchantress
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Post Post #3858 (ISO) » Mon Jan 13, 2020 2:33 pm

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Also, we have to factor if vig was in play and I was scum kill (remote given desperate modifier).
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Post Post #3859 (ISO) » Mon Jan 13, 2020 2:34 pm

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No N1 action

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Post Post #3860 (ISO) » Mon Jan 13, 2020 2:38 pm

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the heal is still a non factor besides its role in keeping you alive. it doesn't affect your results in any scenario because you have a role that gives you feedback on if it was successful.

pedit: the doc heal is a factor in general, just not one that has any bearing on your results.
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Post Post #3861 (ISO) » Mon Jan 13, 2020 2:41 pm

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In post 3860, Chara wrote:the heal is still a non factor besides its role in keeping you alive. it doesn't affect your results in any scenario because you have a role that gives you feedback on if it was successful.

pedit: the doc heal is a factor in general, just not one that has any bearing on your results.
I want to understand everything before I state results.

That's why I am sure Nips is scum
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Post Post #3862 (ISO) » Mon Jan 13, 2020 2:48 pm

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i don't understand what you mean but this is tiring me out so i'll call it a night for now.
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Post Post #3863 (ISO) » Mon Jan 13, 2020 3:01 pm

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Riiight go talk to nips in your pt
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Post Post #3864 (ISO) » Mon Jan 13, 2020 3:16 pm

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Yes Chara let us discuss dealing with the incomparable scumhunting abilities of Titus.

Much shaken. Very unmanageable. Wow.

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Post Post #3865 (ISO) » Mon Jan 13, 2020 3:18 pm

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In post 3864, chkflip wrote:Yes Chara let us discuss dealing with the incomparable scumhunting abilities of Titus.

Much shaken. Very unmanageable. Wow.

:lol:
Dude, you're an adorable scumfuck.
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Post Post #3866 (ISO) » Mon Jan 13, 2020 3:44 pm

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In post 3849, Titus wrote:
In post 3844, Venus and Mars wrote:@Titus, why did you think being healed had any bearing on your A50 clear?
If I was roleblocked and healed, it would create the illusion of a clear. It's very fucking remote given the desperate modifier but possible.

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In post 3850, Titus wrote:Given an enchantress exists (creature block), I don't know A50 is clear.
How does Creature block fit in with A50?
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Post Post #3867 (ISO) » Mon Jan 13, 2020 3:46 pm

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In post 3853, Titus wrote:
In post 3841, Venus and Mars wrote:
In post 3836, Chara wrote:
In post 3827, Venus and Mars wrote:Oh okay, because I definitely agree with her on the Joan part anyway. What do you think of Dave/Haggle saying that both Titus/A50 can’t be saying the truth wrt to their modifiers because I’m still not understanding that?
they're saying that Almost being Desperate and Weak doesn't make sense because Weak is redundant. weak makes you die on scum, Desperate makes you die on scum but also doesn't work on town. so, having both as Almost claims he does would be pointless, though depending on how trolly Boon is feeling not especially impossible.

since the conversation will only be resolved by Almost checking with Boon and making a statement to clarify his modifiers and what exactly they do, i don't know if it's fruitful now.

Disloyal =/= Desperate (which is what Almost claimed) though. they're definitely different modifiers in the list if you check.

pedit: Joan targeting Titus shouldn't affect her Almost clear, or rather lack thereof. he is confirmed scum by the neighbourizer working. since the neighbourizer didn't work, he's conftown, was not targetable last night, or Titus's action was blocked. her being protected or not shouldn't affect that, since even if Titus was protected from her dying on a scum Almost, her neighbourize should still have worked and given her the guilty on him.
it's the whole reason she asked for doc saves to begin with, in order to get her guilties without dying. so not sure why Titus said her being saved changed anything.
Oh okay, yeah so Titus being saved has no bearing on her neighbourize failing. Could she have been blocked? but what then accounts for Creature’s actions failing?

Enchantress.

It blocks the target and all investigations on the target.
Did Creature ever claim his target? But it would logically probably be Drew or Nips based on his ISO.

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Post Post #3868 (ISO) » Mon Jan 13, 2020 3:48 pm

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In post 3866, Venus and Mars wrote:
In post 3849, Titus wrote:
In post 3844, Venus and Mars wrote:@Titus, why did you think being healed had any bearing on your A50 clear?
If I was roleblocked and healed, it would create the illusion of a clear. It's very fucking remote given the desperate modifier but possible.

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In post 3850, Titus wrote:Given an enchantress exists (creature block), I don't know A50 is clear.
How does Creature block fit in with A50?
Creature's block is how I know enchantress exists. If Creature and I both failed, it makes more sense that one common action caused both of us to fail, rather than two separate actions. Factor in scum making me desperate, two separate actions is stupid unlikely.
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Post Post #3869 (ISO) » Mon Jan 13, 2020 3:48 pm

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Creature's target was A50
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Post Post #3870 (ISO) » Mon Jan 13, 2020 3:54 pm

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In post 3869, Titus wrote:Creature's target was A50
Ah, interesting. Does enchantress used on A50, render his results useless?
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Post Post #3871 (ISO) » Mon Jan 13, 2020 3:57 pm

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In post 3870, Venus and Mars wrote:
In post 3869, Titus wrote:Creature's target was A50
Ah, interesting. Does enchantress used on A50, render his results useless?
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Post Post #3872 (ISO) » Mon Jan 13, 2020 4:01 pm

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In post 3871, Venus and Mars wrote:
In post 3870, Venus and Mars wrote:
In post 3869, Titus wrote:Creature's target was A50
Ah, interesting. Does enchantress used on A50, render his results useless?
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. If you were to be roleblocked, your action will not go through.
Obviously A50 was the one targeted.
That would explain both Creature RB and Nips and would mean, he isn’t clear.

So because of Creature roleblock, enchantress has to exist and A50 was the likely target and Nips did have the most reason to kill Expresso because who else would target him?
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Post Post #3873 (ISO) » Mon Jan 13, 2020 4:01 pm

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In post 3870, Venus and Mars wrote:
In post 3869, Titus wrote:Creature's target was A50
Ah, interesting. Does enchantress used on A50, render his results useless?
Yes omg you finally see it
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Post Post #3874 (ISO) » Mon Jan 13, 2020 4:02 pm

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In post 3872, Venus and Mars wrote:
In post 3871, Venus and Mars wrote:
In post 3870, Venus and Mars wrote:
In post 3869, Titus wrote:Creature's target was A50
Ah, interesting. Does enchantress used on A50, render his results useless?
Enchantress
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Every night, you may target a player. You will force that player to commute,
meaning any actions performed by or targeting your target will fail. If your target is not aligned with town, you will also commute during the night. You will not be informed of this
. If you were to be roleblocked, your action will not go through.
Obviously A50 was the one targeted.
That would explain both Creature RB and Nips and would mean, he isn’t clear.

So because of Creature roleblock, enchantress has to exist and A50 was the likely target and Nips did have the most reason to kill Expresso because who else would target him?
YES!

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