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Post Post #2350 (ISO) » Fri Jan 17, 2020 4:29 pm

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In post 1602, Nicholai wrote:bob is best for reasons before but also wake i just remembered exists
In post 406, Looker wrote:
In post 395, popsofctown wrote:Keep in mind Kerset speaks English as a second language.
What's the original language? (Also, making something purple doesn't make it evil)
In post 398, BBmolla wrote:VOTE: Wake88
I forgot about this player.


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In post 2347, gobbledygook wrote:Hmm... both flipped scum forgot that Wake existed.
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Post Post #2351 (ISO) » Fri Jan 17, 2020 4:34 pm

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In post 610, Looker wrote:How do you differentiate between someone not shifting a vote because they've grown so tired (or cautious) of wagon/vote-hopping so frequently and someone not shifting a vote because the focus has finally landed on one of their team members?
In post 601, skitter30 wrote:Ok, what did you think of the bbmolla wagon then?
As I understood it, the votes were built from lurking and meta. My proposition for lurking was replacement - also, Wake88 was lurking way harder than BBmolia. And I can't argue meta because I've not played with this player before and I'm not going to read 50+ pages of other games to come up with a read that could've been manipulated.
In post 604, bob3141 wrote:So far the skitter wagon is just looking like counter wagon to proffiis.

And those on it dont look right.
Can you expound upon this subjective hot take?
This post really makes me think it is between BBmolla and A50.

Plus Nicholai spent so much time talking about Bob. I'm not sure he would talk about his buddy that much. Plus that would mean that all three scum were on a wagon at once which I don't think happens.
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Post Post #2352 (ISO) » Fri Jan 17, 2020 5:04 pm

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I'm so lost this game.

VOTE: BBMolla

I need him to talk to me at a minimum.
"Let us say that you are right and there are two worlds. How much, then, is this 'other world' worth to you? What do you have there that you do not have here? Money? Power? Something worth causing the prince so much pain for?'"
"Well, I..."
"What? Nothing? You would make the prince suffer over... nothing?"
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Post Post #2353 (ISO) » Fri Jan 17, 2020 5:11 pm

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In post 2339, gobbledygook wrote:I think he and FL are cut from the same cloth,
:lol: :lol: :lol:

You notice how ironic this declaration is? I mean, yes.. me and FL have a lot in common, but
that is exactly
what I told pops to look for. I have not been manipulative. I have not been vocal. I have not tried to buy myself any Town!cred in advance, Hell, I didn't even CRUMB on D1.

Disclaimer: That does NOT mean that when I do any/all of the above it means I'm more likely Scum. It's just that .. well.. imagine a hypothetical situation where I replaced into a Scum slot and saw that both my partners are noobs and not doing well at all (well, Looker is not a noob by join date, but she has yet to hit 3K posts overall). What would I do? Would you really expect me to lay low and throw them both to the Lions??

WAIT! I have just skimmed your ISO, and you had an early SR on Nona (that was Nicholai's slot, right?). She also voted you early on.

Also looks like bob is simultaneously distancing AND coaching her.

OK.. let's rearrange the suspected trio: bob >> BBm >> gobble

P-edit: 3 Scums on the same wagon is more common than you think. Actually all 3 voting NEXT TO EACH OTHER is a trick I used before, and so did Titus and mastina. I am not saying this was intentional though. It was more likely die to the scum team being inexperienced and didn't know better.

@gobble: Damn you for making me effort (just kidding). Check the early wagon on rb. Nona & Looker were both voting him, and he had only 3 votes on him.

Now check VC 1.12 . Who is the leading wagon? Who is NOT voting? (also note that Wake was the 1st vote on Looker).

But wait! Bob was also parked on Nona/Nicholai!!

I am back to BBm top suspect (but bob is now 2nd and gobble 3rd)

Note: My p-edit will look dumb by the time I actually post this because it's taking me TIME to ISO Menalque, and I expect there to be multiple posts between mine and gobble's.

OK. VC 1.15 spews PP TOWN. Nicholai was his 5th voter, and I have never seen noob!Scum bus before. (they do distance, but when the wagin gets serious they tend to jump off it)

Now look at VC 1.18 & 1.19 & . Looker voted BBm and shortly after jpped off the wagon (before rb even vote BBm). THAT is what noob!Scum do for distancing.

My vote on BBm is cemented (with more confidence now than before)

P-edit 2: GOOD vote.

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Post Post #2354 (ISO) » Fri Jan 17, 2020 5:15 pm

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In post 1543, BBmolla wrote:GET THE FUCK OFF YOUR ASSES

LIKE HOLY FUCK I'M LYNCHBAIT AND IT SHOULD BE OBVIOUS TO ANYONE WHO HAS PLAYED THIS GAME BEFORE

I'M LIKE FLYPAPER TO SCUM, THEY SEE ME AND SEE AN EASY LYNCH

I JUST WENT THROUGH THIS, HOW MANY TIMES MUST I REPEAT TILL IT BECOMES CLEAR THAT IF I'M BEING WAGONED EARLY I'M FUCKING TOWN?
Also this .. erm.. well.. it's a tinfoil, but I sense BBm was actually shouting at his scum buddies to push a counter wagon to save him. I know it sounds crazy, but when I reread it was like something that just hit me.

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Post Post #2355 (ISO) » Fri Jan 17, 2020 5:16 pm

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/effort off

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Post Post #2356 (ISO) » Fri Jan 17, 2020 5:16 pm

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I think the mafia probably have daytalk though
"Let us say that you are right and there are two worlds. How much, then, is this 'other world' worth to you? What do you have there that you do not have here? Money? Power? Something worth causing the prince so much pain for?'"
"Well, I..."
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Post Post #2357 (ISO) » Fri Jan 17, 2020 5:25 pm

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So? Have you never seen noob!Scum who forgot to check the Scum PT? I mean, I know some EXPERIENCED players (Creature) who don't!

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Post Post #2358 (ISO) » Fri Jan 17, 2020 5:26 pm

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Creature shows up to the scum PT in LyLo to solve the game
"Let us say that you are right and there are two worlds. How much, then, is this 'other world' worth to you? What do you have there that you do not have here? Money? Power? Something worth causing the prince so much pain for?'"
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"What? Nothing? You would make the prince suffer over... nothing?"
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Post Post #2359 (ISO) » Fri Jan 17, 2020 5:39 pm

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VOTE: BBmolla
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Post Post #2360 (ISO) » Fri Jan 17, 2020 5:46 pm

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I continue to not be scum gobbles

Why are you so paranoid about me
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Post Post #2361 (ISO) » Fri Jan 17, 2020 5:48 pm

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I’m home now so hit me with things if you’re here pops
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Post Post #2362 (ISO) » Fri Jan 17, 2020 5:49 pm

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pops just trust me!

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Post Post #2363 (ISO) » Fri Jan 17, 2020 5:50 pm

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Ok BBMolla what do you think about the idea of solving this game by VCA versus play?
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Post Post #2364 (ISO) » Fri Jan 17, 2020 5:53 pm

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I distinctly remember a game where we laughed our ass off in the scum pt about an entirely Town day 1 lynch wagon

The three of us were voting the same person, some off wagon, only us three on it

VCA is a good start point but it’s not the gospel

Computer starting up I can look more in depth if you feel there is important things in the vca this game
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Post Post #2365 (ISO) » Fri Jan 17, 2020 5:53 pm

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Almost50 is bad or scum if your vote matches theirs I’d double check yourself
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Post Post #2366 (ISO) » Fri Jan 17, 2020 5:54 pm

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Does anyone know how bob actually plays scum? I certainly don’t.
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Post Post #2367 (ISO) » Fri Jan 17, 2020 5:55 pm

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Also, if I’m day 1 lynch, why fight it so hard, just shut up and let it go through, it’s far better than leaving a mess of associatives
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Post Post #2368 (ISO) » Fri Jan 17, 2020 5:56 pm

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This game was a matter of principle for me, I didn’t want to be lynched day 1, if we gotta lynch me now to relieve your doubts than whatever I guess but I’m not scum
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Post Post #2369 (ISO) » Fri Jan 17, 2020 5:57 pm

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Where’s Rb at this point I kind of want to defer to him
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Post Post #2370 (ISO) » Fri Jan 17, 2020 5:57 pm

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I feel like Kerset lynch shouldn't have happened but I guess skitter was on it.

My gut says it's Bob but I can't substantiate my gut on bob
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Post Post #2371 (ISO) » Fri Jan 17, 2020 5:58 pm

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Also, we have 3 lynches to get scum assuming no major surprises.
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Post Post #2372 (ISO) » Fri Jan 17, 2020 6:01 pm

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We do. I think we probably win this game
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Post Post #2373 (ISO) » Fri Jan 17, 2020 6:05 pm

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From any townie’s perspective that is not RB, Pops, or Penguin, they would know that the game ends in a town win if the lynch is within the 3 non PR people/confirmed.

We as town just need to find one townie that we can all agree on within that group of four.

For reference, that group of four is {Almost50, BBmolla, Frank, gobbledygook}

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Post Post #2374 (ISO) » Fri Jan 17, 2020 6:06 pm

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In post 2369, BBmolla wrote:Where’s Rb at this point I kind of want to defer to him
gobble/bob

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