White Flag - TM2020

[Donempire]

Dong what happened to your hard Esp scum read

Lost it

[Auro]

What... How?

[Dannflor]

It's the hard defense of FF that's the key point there Auro. Momentum was going in FF's direction until Dunn stepped in.

[Dannflor]

Dong what happened to your hard Esp scum read

Lost it

Why?

[CheekyTeeky]

Sigh. Alright so I guess we lynch Espeon.

[CheekyTeeky]

I don't have access to our discord on this device but I'll hit up pops when I get a chance.

[CheekyTeeky]

VOTE: Espeonage

[Dunnstral]

NSG was talking about surviving to day 2 and starting to play then. If she hadnt kept up on that promise she would have been lynched, regardless of whether or not i "bussed" her.

Yes, that's kind of my point:

Shading her would have been scum indicative if she flipped town. Makes no sense for me to do as scum, especially in a game where its very easy to lose as scum due to scum having higher numbers but losing at 1 pop

It makes sense if she's dying day 2 anyway

[Donempire]

Okay, i should expand on that a bit.

I reread espeonage and i dont think shes as scummy as cheeky. Most importantly her tone is consistent and i agree with her assesment on not scumreading nsg. I like that she carried that read to this day.

Still her backing off of formerfish once d2 started doesnt bode well but i dont sr her as profusely.

[Donempire]

NSG was talking about surviving to day 2 and starting to play then. If she hadnt kept up on that promise she would have been lynched, regardless of whether or not i "bussed" her.

Yes, that's kind of my point:

Shading her would have been scum indicative if she flipped town. Makes no sense for me to do as scum, especially in a game where its very easy to lose as scum due to scum having higher numbers but losing at 1 pop

It makes sense if she's dying day 2 anyway

Shes not dying d2 if she starts playing that day

If i was scum with her my priority would have been carrying her to d2, not bus her at the smallest opportunity

[Donempire]

VOTE: Espeonage

Bruuuuuuuuuuuuh

[Dannflor]

Auros not my scumread, i think that defending himself isnt indicative of scumminess but rather misplaced focus.

Espeonage is my highest scumread right now and former would have to come second though its not half as strong as esp.

You never explained why exactly Espeonage was your highest scum read to start with. Why was that? And how does agreeing with his logic cancel that out?

[CheekyTeeky]

VOTE: Espeonage

Bruuuuuuuuuuuuh

Eddie Cane.

[Dunnstral]

NSG was talking about surviving to day 2 and starting to play then. If she hadnt kept up on that promise she would have been lynched, regardless of whether or not i "bussed" her.

Yes, that's kind of my point:

Shading her would have been scum indicative if she flipped town. Makes no sense for me to do as scum, especially in a game where its very easy to lose as scum due to scum having higher numbers but losing at 1 pop

It makes sense if she's dying day 2 anyway

Shes not dying d2 if she starts playing that day

If i was scum with her my priority would have been carrying her to d2, not bus her at the smallest opportunity

You're not understanding me:

I don't think she can show she is town day 2, so she is getting lynched, Is essence she's given up, but her team can make the most of a bad situation by mislynching FF first. I also don't think you bussed her, I think you would have voted her day 2 like you said, but I don't think that's towny, I think that's trying to blend in

[Dannflor]

If i was scum with her my priority would have been carrying her to d2, not bus her at the smallest opportunity

you didn't vote her at the smallest opportunity Dong

you did the best you could to voice suspicion on her but the only time you ever voted her was to hammer like hours before deadline

[Dunnstral]

Okay, i should expand on that a bit.

I reread espeonage and i dont think shes as scummy as cheeky. Most importantly her tone is consistent and i agree with her assesment on not scumreading nsg. I like that she carried that read to this day.

Still her backing off of formerfish once d2 started doesnt bode well but i dont sr her as profusely.

TBH I think Cheeky is playing like scum this game but my team is telling me she's obvtown, and now Dann's teammate thinks she's pretty town

[CheekyTeeky]

Dunn if I'm scum why didn't I hammer FF over my teammate after tunnelling him all day?

[Dunnstral]

Did you have an opportunity to do that?

[Auro]

Flash lynch
VOTE: Espeonage

[CheekyTeeky]

Like in what world do my actions make sense as scum here.

Pedit yes. When FF was finally talking with people he was at L-1. Are you actually reading the game? I feel like if you were solving you would've looked into that.

[CheekyTeeky]

Spoiler: Me being an obvnotscum person.

Intent to hammer by deadline or if everyone has said what they want to say.

Woosaaaaa.

Hopkirk what are you doing?

You should at least talk to Auro even if you're mad at me.

Then you replaced in and immediately pushed me.

Why didn't you push back or try to sort me?

Ok. So I'm not so sure you're scum anymore FF. My problem is that if I hammer NSG and she flips town then I get shot to set you up and you're the main distraction D2 (assuming town). I don't know how to fix the inevitable chase of you from this point if you're not lynched today. Best bet is to CFD scum. I like Auro a whole lot more and I don't see Dann getting the votes, Dong is our most likely option. Thoughts?

Cheeky, I'm beginning to think NSG is a fine lynch at this point. I've sortaaaa lost heart in an FF lynch. Idk.

Yeah I've lost heart that FF is scum but it's the best thing going forward into the next few days.

Sorry BB.

VOTE: BBmolla

[Donempire]

Pathetic lamist lmfao

VOTE: Cheeky

Stop this esp wagon pls

[Dannflor]

I think you're both pretty transparently town here and for whatever reason, you guys just can't see it in each other.

You guys clashed over a read (FF) in a pretty hardcore fashion but I think instead of recognizing you just disagreed on a confident read you jumped to the idea that the other person's confidence was scum indicative. I think the fact that a lot of other people in the game and outside the game hard town read you both independently is pretty telling.

[Donempire]

Auros not my scumread, i think that defending himself isnt indicative of scumminess but rather misplaced focus.

Espeonage is my highest scumread right now and former would have to come second though its not half as strong as esp.

You never explained why exactly Espeonage was your highest scum read to start with. Why was that? And how does agreeing with his logic cancel that out?

I started scumreading her because of posts like these where she,

So I've found two scum which is enough to win the game. Auro and Dunn are both scum kthxbi

Shades people without giving any reasoning,

Questions are framed to find a way out of suspicion rather than getting a level of understanding which is a scum mindset v town mindset thing.

A wishy washy lawyer quote that doesnt mean anything, because even after she explained this in more detail the point is auro hasnt been under suspicion on most people he talked with besides ceph, and esp herself even pointed out the times auro made a good post in her eyes, which is weird

All of the mentality stuff I am reading in Auro's posts reads to me as working out how to be town read not how to convince others of their own reads to work with others

So after more than one person asked you to look at my town games where my posts come off exactly like this, and my calling your allegation of "not working with anyone" blatantly false... You justify your vote on me because wagon composition?

Okay.

I have not looked at a single one of your games and I never will. If you run your mouth with self meta you gonna end up being another mod kill to add to the pile.

Attacks auro and basically threatens him to shut up about his inquiry into her metagame.

I still think these are bad posts, but with 100 more of these posts i think this is just her playstyle at least in this game and more importantly i dont want anything to distract from me riling up on cheeky.

[Dannflor]

Pathetic lamist lmfao

VOTE: Cheeky

Stop this esp wagon pls

dude you had Esp as your top scum read D1 by a large margin and never explained why

This is so awful

[esp, dong] feels too easy but like... What.