Team Mafia 2020: Open Setup - Game Over

[Eddie Cane]

we lynch by the numbers, no reason not to

sooo, lets do a list and then murderdeathkill down it.


my prefered list includes hec and bob. salt is on it too tho

I already gave my lynch list of 5. What do you think the order should be after you?

[OkaPoka]

<hectic = piss = elsa >

bob

s_s

going down the list btw

[Elsa Jay]

I'm fine with that, as long as I get to kill Hectic and Pisskop before me. My lynchers shall perish.

Hope your all having a nice day btw

[Eddie Cane]

Hey elsa your deal was piss first not hectic too D:

[Elsa Jay]

He's a bonus challenge.

[Elsa Jay]

Actually putting aside my spiteful mindset, it should go Pisskop - Bob - Me (even if I don't want it) - Hectic. I actually understood why Hectic was after me. Pisskop felt outta nowhere tho.

[Hectic]

For the record @NaCl good play but I'm pretty sure the roleswap gambit works better if you let the VT (DDL) die, not save him.

Yeah, that's what I was getting at.

[bob3141]

popsofctown (5) - Eddie Cane, Amrun, Something_Smart, Elsa Jay, titus
eddie - popsofctown (s), krazy (s), pisskop. oka

these were two wagons when eddie and pops awere goign head to head.

Could we have had a full scum team pushign pops over eddie during that first pops wagon.

[bob3141]

What makes unwind, “core town”?

I think theyre highly unlikely to be scum.

krazy was pretty town, imo. i think theyre less likely scum than hectic.

[Something_Smart]

Drawing a parallel to Baton Pass, yes, it's possible.

[bob3141]

So piskop what was the reason you scum read unwind

on unwind thats the only post where he is directly mentioned (via search of unwind)

ill have to check for krazy but during unwind the last real read you gave was saying unwind was unlikely scum because krazy was very townie

[Something_Smart]

Did you search for "unwnd" as well?

[bob3141]

OK, could you ISO Eddie and look at his interactions with you and Pops (he hard scumreads you both), and tell us what you think of his alignment?

Do you think Eddie / Me is SvT?

I think Pops/Eddie was TvS

Youre town who got into fisticuffs

Based on?

Which one?

Eddie v pops is because they share a hood, eddie is trolling, and pops is admittedly acting funny.

Krazy is town because they feel and contribuite like it. I have no meta on Krazy, but like their play. Their early game was weak, but the stuff from before he voted eddie is gold.

what do you think on this now that krazy/unwind infact flipped scum?

[bob3141]

Did you search for "unwnd" as well?

that migth be it i can see more. will have to read

[bob3141]

swap tirus and ss around
put piss up with oka
move unwnd down one tier

okapoka, eddie, ddl, pisskop, nancy
s_s, amrun
titus, unwnd, bob
nacl, elsa, hectic

unwnd is justa shitty comprise

@Piss and @ anybody else who has unwnd as townish

I felt krazy was townspewing. Once i decided he was a townlean it kind of snowballed. I think unwnd has a lot of that charisma

unwnd is in any case a counter to a counter wagon at this point. I think Ive underestimated the methodology oka has employed here and he's gathering reads, but the wagon itself is a compromise.

okapoka, eddie, ddl, pisskop, nancy
s_s, amrun
titus, unwnd, bob
nacl, elsa, hectic

Why am I higher than SS and Amrun?

I think you're most likely out of your scum range.

Spoiler: .

Okay, let's look at it a different way I suppose.

12 of us have neighborhoods, so 6 in total. 3 scum, 1 in each neighborhood. 3/6.

I've been informed math is scummy VOTE: Elsa Jay

A little late for what feels like an RVS vote? Maybe this was an attempt to progress the game?

I see no harm in making my tardy RVS vote during my catchup.

fair.

Not how buddies interact.

Pops gimme an eddie case

Again, pushing other peoples agenda is not how somebody interacts with a buddy.

I said he would endgame me, and he quoted me saying he would endgame me and said "get fucked kid"

that is bragging about endgaming me

But i mean, saying that to a not dead player is tantamount to suicide?

My interactions with pops are not ones designed to save pops, nor push another agenda. This is where I point how pops' claim to be trolled is inconsistent with how scum play.

Spoiler: .

that weird interaction wrt the boasting in the hood and pops not vioting eddie until now tho. whats up pops? y no vote b4?

VOTE: eddie

ill revote to flip pops, but I think this is the new flavor of the week.

My reasons for going after eddie here are for his

self-admitted

scummy play d1. Pops being eddies neighbour precludes pops and eddie being scum. either or.

OK, could you ISO Eddie and look at his interactions with you and Pops (he hard scumreads you both), and tell us what you think of his alignment?

Do you think Eddie / Me is SvT?

I think Pops/Eddie was TvS

Youre town who got into fisticuffs

Here Im clearly indicting that im sorting both players.

OK, could you ISO Eddie and look at his interactions with you and Pops (he hard scumreads you both), and tell us what you think of his alignment?

Do you think Eddie / Me is SvT?

I think Pops/Eddie was TvS

Youre town who got into fisticuffs

Based on?

Which one?

Eddie v pops is because they share a hood, eddie is trolling, and pops is admittedly acting funny.

Krazy is town because they feel and contribuite like it. I have no meta on Krazy, but like their play. Their early game was weak, but the stuff from before he voted eddie is gold.

And i share my views on eddie pops, continuing to focus on the pair. I may not have a definite side chosen here, but unless youre claiming i bussed pops

indirectly

theres no scum value in trying to ML eddy when pops looks like shit for it and i cant maneuver out of a pops lynch. In which case why be so indirect about pops?

Spoiler: .

I think pops might be town tbh. Theyre reads are consistent.

I dont recall pops' scumgame. Anyone have an insight?

Pops Piss Pine would be a wild solve

but not a

Krazy

solve . . .

And here I doend up siding with pops. Theyre pocketing me fairly hard, btw, and you can see it, especially at the EoD here:

VOTE: salt because I liked pisskop's meme.

lets be perfectly clear that any potential associations and buddying is all one sided, EDDIE AND POLKA

Ive already promised a certain lady id vote pops to flip them and move this train along.

Well the question is is pops antispewing

no the question is: are they scum?

And finally, this is where I reiterate, as in have multiple times, that I am willing to take pops. And Im willing to engage over them.

Krazy Pops has a nice ring to it tho!

VOTE: salt

elsa, titus, dolittle, nacl

^^

id like more out of these explicitly.

because the core town here is

- ND
- oka
- piss
- amrun
- unwnd
- SS

- eddie


leaving

- hecktic
- bob
- nacl
- elsa
- doodles
- titus

besides, I dont TR nacl, and would happily send him off.

he just isn really in the spotlight today

Can we not do the games? We outed, now Im thinking Bob/nacl/elsa/heck

okapoka, eddie, ddl, pisskop, nancy
s_s, amrun
titus, unwnd, bob
nacl, elsa, hectic

Same to the whole of the unwnd wagon.

Time to shore up those votes.

You know if it is nacl/unwnd id owe elsa a small apology.

SS do you TR Elsa?

Maybe a little?

id join unwnd

VOTE: unwnd

if bob is scummy, he is scummy of his own merit and deserves his own wagon. pairing my sr with me is garbo

Isn’t there 2 left now?

the implication is that unwnd is one of the two and the other is not on it.

VOTE: unwnd

Finally. That was gonna be an unwnd hammer but then I saw our doctor wanted to get some last words in. So.

unwnd has said all theyll say. their latest posts have all been about arguing with nancy, calling me town, and not too much else?

VOTE: unwnd

I think thats piskop posts relating to unwind during the wagon

[bob3141]

piskop can you talk us through these to tell us how you town read on unwind/krzay went from town to scum.

And what you meant by unwind being a bad compromise wagon. At that point what did you feel was the likely hood that uwind was scum

[bob3141]

elsa - unwnd, Hectic, OkaPoka (t), pisskop
piskop-DrDolittle, Nancy Drew 39, bob3141, NaCl

i think thats when elsa and piskop wagons were competing. With unwind involved in elsa and not piskop


piskop if you are town why would you think unwind would choose to push elsa lynch over your own.

[Nancy Drew 39]

I am so happy my NaCl tr was correct.

I still think DDL is town on play, completely ignoring he was very likely saved.

And Titus with her ridiculously wrong VCA, was sr me for never being on NaCl wagon, oh the irony!

[Elsa Jay]

Bob, I dont have many rights to complain, but could you please spoiler tag the quote Well next time?

[bob3141]

Bob, I dont have many rights to complain, but could you please spoiler tag the quote Well next time?

how do you do that

[Titus]

VOTE: Pisskop

[Elsa Jay]

Bob, I dont have many rights to complain, but could you please spoiler tag the quote Well next time?

how do you do that

Put [ Spoiler="Quote Wall"] all your quotes here [ /Spoiler] without the spaces.

Try it out with just a few words.

Reading your one comment after 20 quotes was annoying.

[Titus]

I am so happy my NaCl tr was correct.

I still think DDL is town on play, completely ignoring he was very likely saved.

And Titus with her ridiculously wrong VCA, was sr me for never being on NaCl wagon, oh the irony!

True. I was convinced he was scum. I think this new medication I am on may impact my VCA abilities.

[Elsa Jay]

Spoiler: Like So

As an example, here we are.

You don't actually need the ""'s either.

[bob3141]

Spoiler: Quote Wall

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