White Flag - TM2020

gobbledygook · Post Post #3125 (ISO) » Thu Feb 06, 2020 1:19 am

Why weren’t you voting at the end of the day there, Auro

Auro · Post Post #3126 (ISO) » Thu Feb 06, 2020 1:23 am

Formerfish Wagon: CheekyTeeky, BBMolla, gobbledygook,

northsidegal

, Dannflor, (Auro)
Molla Wagon: CheekyTeeky, Dann,

Cephrir

, FormerFish, Dong
D1-NSG: Auro, FormerFish, CheekyTeeky,

Espeonage

,

Hopkirk

,

NSG

Looks bad for Cheeky if FF/Molla town.

gobbledygook wrote:Why weren’t you voting at the end of the day there, Auro

I was absent during the final NSG wagon, and only posted there right after Dong hammered I think. I didn't have a vote in play for a lot of time, anyway.

CheekyTeeky · Post Post #3127 (ISO) » Thu Feb 06, 2020 2:08 am

In post 1173, Formerfish wrote:If NSG wants to make this into a 1v1 then I'll gladly take her on.

VOTE: NSG

Ok let's hypothesize. So scum FF votes scum NSG to create a false TvS scenario, expecting that if NSG is lynched FF gets ++townpoints elseif FF is lynched NSG gets ++townpoints to boost her much promised D2 catch up.

In post 3124, CheekyTeeky wrote:
In post 1523, T-Bone wrote:
Vote Count
northsidegal
- 7
(
Kittymo
,
Dunnstral
, gobbledygook, BBMolla, Dannflor,
Cephrir
, Dongempire)

Formerfish - 2
(
northsidegal
,
Espeonage
)

BBMolla - 2
(CheekyTeeky, Formerfish)

gobbledygook - 1
(
Hopkirk
)

Not Voting - 1
(Auro)

Activity Check - Lynch at #1460

Deadline: (expired on 2020-01-17 22:59:30)

In post 3126, Auro wrote:Formerfish Wagon: CheekyTeeky, BBMolla, gobbledygook, northsidegal, Dannflor, (Auro)
Molla Wagon: CheekyTeeky, Dann, Cephrir, FormerFish, Dong

If BB is scum then none of his flash wagon are buddies with him imo simply because you don't go for BB scum when NSG scum is getting lynched.

So that nullifies BB/CT BB/Dann BB/FF or BB/Dong. Which leaves BB/Auro or BB/Gobbles.

If we apply the same logic to FF then that nullifies FF/CT FF/BB FF/GG FF/Dann. Leaving FF/Auro FF/Dong

There's actually some really dodgy FF/Dong interactions on rereading.

In post 1307, Formerfish wrote:
In post 1294, Donempire wrote:Thanks cap.
VOTE: Formerfish

In post 1295, Donempire wrote:Nsg/cheeky/maybe hop
I could vote here for sure. Votes me but doesn't have me as scum...

This read shifts SOD2.

In post 1377, Formerfish wrote:
In post 1376, Dunnstral wrote:I think BBMolla is scummy
Of the 3 "lurkers" id see him die first if he was a viable option. Hes done less than nsg in twice as many posts.

Note BB has been tunneling Dong all D1.

In post 1416, Formerfish wrote:If you guys won't go NSG and I can't interest anyone in a Dong lynch I can vote BB.

VOTE: Bb

In post 1881, Formerfish wrote:
In post 1550, Dunnstral wrote:
In post 1547, Dannflor wrote:My kill pool is:

[Esp, Dong, Hopkirk]
This is exactly my kill pool right now
I think Dong is low hanging fruit, his play has been sporadic but I have an idea why and its NAI.

Espy went through a lot of trouble yesterday to explain why I need to die regardless and I think thats a pretty easy position for scum to take on me because it ensures at least 1 mislynch.

Hoppy id have to go back and look at because other then the recent quoted post where he linked me to 2 people but didnt mention the people hard defending NSG as being suspect is a little uhh... spotty logic at best and shade trying to set up 3 mislynches in myself, Gob and Dunn.

How does FF go from wanting to lynch Dong EOD1 to calling her LHF SOD2? Dong voting FF but calling two others scum is interesting. I think the reads from these two on each other explained would help a lot.

Question:

In post 1332, Formerfish wrote:I feel like my reads are a bit biased because it feels like half the thread wants me to die and the other half wants me to live.

Trying to figure out wagon comp in a game like this without any flips is like trying to piss in the toilet with the lights off.

FF what does the wagon comp mean now in retrospect?

CheekyTeeky · Post Post #3128 (ISO) » Thu Feb 06, 2020 2:33 am

In post 189, Donempire wrote:Dont want to come off like im parroting gooble but cephrir sucks man. Most of his posts are quick one liners that you cant say much to and he seems afraid to engage properly, especially 81 is awful. I'm fine with placing my vote there but i want to clear my mind on former first because this doesnt play like his towngame.

In post 1205, Donempire wrote:Yeah formers scum.

I have never believed his posts were anything outstanding, but thats not the smoking gun for me. The last 3 posts he made seem like its coming from frustrated scum that got caught due to luck, and his desperation to switch to a NSG wagon shows that also.

This kind of doesn't vibe right with NSG/FF/Dong team unless they were all in on the 1v1 and attempting to hard distance here.

CheekyTeeky · Post Post #3129 (ISO) » Thu Feb 06, 2020 2:36 am

In post 1289, Donempire wrote:
In post 1273, Dannflor wrote:Why didn't Dong vote Former there
Not a logical reason yes but i didnt check the vc or the deadline, i just wanted to get in whatevee i had in mind and go to bed

Not defending myself but i dont want anyone to get the wrong ideas either.

In post 1294, Donempire wrote:Thanks cap.
VOTE: Formerfish

Dong needed to be pushed to lynch FF

CheekyTeeky · Post Post #3130 (ISO) » Thu Feb 06, 2020 2:38 am

In post 1403, Donempire wrote:
In post 1398, Dunnstral wrote:
In post 1396, Donempire wrote:
In post 1387, BBmolla wrote:I like these wagons what course should I be taking?
Former seems like its a done deal at this pointz i doubt trying to flip everyone on nsg at the last moment will work, and im pretty sure on former (im also convinced on nsg but in a decision of one or the other...)
This is a pretty lazy excuse, your vote on nsg would put her to l-1, while your vote on FF ties the wagons at l-2, so "flipping everyone" isn't something that needs to happen if you wanted to

I'll be willing to flip on nsg if formers wagon stops traction, but its not because i scumread nsg over him but rather to just get a lynch in. I'm still in full support of a former hanging.

In post 1417, Donempire wrote:Sure, tomorrow we can have a better discussion.

VOTE: BB
L1 i think

Hmmmmmm.

Auro · Post Post #3131 (ISO) » Thu Feb 06, 2020 2:57 am

Yes. FF+BB isn't a solve, BB+Dong isn't a solve.
It's either FF+Dong or BB+Gobble, assuming you and Dann are town.

My ideal lynches would be {Gobble,FF} in that order.

Auro · Post Post #3132 (ISO) » Thu Feb 06, 2020 3:05 am

Wait. Dong+Gobble is valid too, I think.

gobbledygook · Post Post #3133 (ISO) » Thu Feb 06, 2020 3:17 am

These colors are from my team and I's perspective. As stated earlier, we think that Fish and BB are probably town due to the fact that their wagons popped up as resistance to the NSG wagon, which makes sense in this game mode as scum do not want to bus.

In post 157, T-Bone wrote:
Vote Count
wguerts - 4
(
Kittymo
, Dannflor,
northsidegal
, Auro)

KittyMo
- 2
(wgeurts,
Hopkirk
)

Dannflor - 1

(Formerfish)

Formerfish
- 1
(Dongempire)

Hopkirk
- 1
(
gobbledygook
)

Auro - 1
(Cephrir)

gobbledygook
- 1

(Dunnstral
)

Not Voting - 2
(
Espeonage
,
Joan of Arc
)

Activity Check - Start of Day

Deadline: (expired on 2020-01-16 22:59:30)

With 13 Alive, it takes 7 to Lynch

In post 216, T-Bone wrote:
Vote Count
KittyMo
- 2
(wgeurts,
Hopkirk
)

Formerfish
- 2
(Dongempire, Dannflor)

wguerts - 1
(
northsidegal
)

Dannflor - 1
(
Formerfish
)

Hopkirk
- 1
(
gobbledygook
)

Auro - 1
(
Cephrir
)

gobbledygook
- 1
(
Dunnstral
)

Cephrir
- 1
(Auro)

Dunnstral
- 1
(
Kittymo
)

Not Voting - 2

(Espeonage, Joan of Arc)

Activity Check - Prodding Espeonage, northsidegal

Deadline: (expired on 2020-01-16 22:59:30)

With 13 Alive, it takes 7 to Lynch

In post 247, T-Bone wrote:
Vote Count
Cephrir
- 2
(Auro, Dongempire)

Auro - 2

(Cephrir, Hopkirk)

KittyMo
- 1
(wgeurts)

Formerfish
- 1
(Dannflor)

wguerts - 1

(northsidegal)

Dannflor - 1

(Formerfish)

Hopkirk - 1

(gobbledygook)

gobbledygook
- 1
(
Dunnstral)

Dunnstral
- 1

(Kittymo)

Not Voting - 2
(Espeonage, Joan of Arc)

Activity Check - Prodding Joan of Arc

Deadline: (expired on 2020-01-16 22:59:30)

With 13 Alive, it takes 7 to Lynch

In post 303, T-Bone wrote:
Vote Count
Cephrir
- 3
(Auro, Dongempire, Dannflor)

Auro - 3
(
Cephrir, Hopkirk, Espeonage)

gobbledygook
- 2

(Dunnstral, Joan of Arc)

KittyMo
- 1
(wgeurts)

wguerts - 1
(northsidegal)

Dannflor - 1

(Formerfish)

Hopkirk
- 1

(gobbledygook)

Dunnstral
- 1

(Kittymo)

Not Voting - 0
( )

Activity Check - Prodding Dongempire and wguerts

Deadline: (expired on 2020-01-16 22:59:30)

With 13 Alive, it takes 7 to Lynch

In post 381, T-Bone wrote:
Vote Count
Auro - 4
(
Cephrir, Hopkirk, Espeonage, Formerfish)

Formerfish
- 3
(
Dunnstral
, Auro, Dannflor

Cephrir
- 1
(Dongempire)

gobbledygook
- 1

(Joan of Arc)

KittyMo - 1
(wgeurts)

wguerts - 1

(northsidegal)

Dunnstral
- 1

(Kittymo)

Dongempire - 1
(
gobbledygook)

Not Voting - 0
( )

Activity Check - Prodding Joan of Arc and wguerts

Deadline: (expired on 2020-01-16 22:59:30)

With 13 Alive, it takes 7 to Lynch

In post 508, T-Bone wrote:
Vote Count
Auro - 4

(Cephrir, Hopkirk, Espeonage, Formerfish)

Dongempire - 2
(
gobbledygook,
Dannflor)

Formerfish
- 1
(
Dunnstral
)

Cephrir
- 1
(Dongempire)

gobbledygook
- 1

(Joan of Arc)

KittyMo
- 1
(wgeurts)

wguerts - 1

(northsidegal)

Dunnstral
- 1

(Kittymo)

Not Voting - 1
(Auro)

Activity Check - Replacing Joan of Arc

Deadline: (expired on 2020-01-16 22:59:30)

With 13 Alive, it takes 7 to Lynch

In post 539, T-Bone wrote:
Vote Count
Auro - 4
(
Cephrir, Hopkirk, Espeonage, Formerfish)

Dongempire - 2
(
gobbledygook
, Dannflor)

Cephrir
- 1
(Dongempire)

gobbledygook - 1

(Joan of Arc)

KittyMo
- 1
(CheekyTeeky)

wguerts - 1

(northsidegal)

Dunnstral
- 1

(Kittymo)

Not Voting - 2
(Auro, Dunnstral)

Activity Check - Replacing Joan of Arc, prodding goobledygook

Deadline: (expired on 2020-01-16 22:59:30)

In post 659, T-Bone wrote:
Vote Count
northsidegal
- 3
(
Cephrir,
Dannflor,
Hopkirk)

Auro - 2

(Espeonage, Formerfish)

Dongempire - 2

(gobbledygook, BBMolla)

Cephrir
- 1
(Dongempire)

wguerts - 1

(northsidegal)

Dunnstral
- 1
(
Kittymo)

Formerfish
- 1
(CheekyTeeky)

Not Voting - 2
(Auro,
Dunnstral)

Activity Check - All Good!

Deadline: (expired on 2020-01-17 22:59:30)

In post 810, T-Bone wrote:
Vote Count
northsidegal
- 3
(
Cephrir, Hopkirk, Kittymo)

Auro - 2

(Espeonage, Formerfish)

Dongempire - 2

(gobbledygook, BBMolla)

CheekyTeeky - 1

(northsidegal)

BBMolla
- 1
(CheekyTeeky)

gobbledygook
- 1

(Dunnstral)

Espeonage
- 1
(Dannflor)

Not Voting - 2
(Auro, Dongempire)

Activity Check - All Good!

Deadline: (expired on 2020-01-17 22:59:30)

In post 922, T-Bone wrote:
Vote Count
northsidegal
- 3

(Cephrir, Hopkirk, Kittymo)

Auro - 2

(Espeonage, Formerfish)

Dongempire - 2

(gobbledygook, BBMolla)

CheekyTeeky - 1

(northsidegal)

gobbledygook
- 1
(
Dunnstral)

Espeonage
- 1
(Dannflor)

Formerfish
- 1
(CheekyTeeky)

Not Voting - 2
(Auro, Dongempire)

Activity Check - Prodding northsidegal

Deadline: (expired on 2020-01-17 22:59:30)

In post 1267, T-Bone wrote:
Vote Count
northsidegal
- 5
(
Kittymo, Cephrir, Dunnstral, Formerfish, gobbledygook)

Formerfish
- 4
(
BBMolla,

northsidega
l, Dannflor,
Espeonage)

gobbledygook
- 1

(Hopkirk)

Not Voting - 3
(Auro, CheekyTeeky, Dongempire)

Activity Check - All Good!

Deadline: (expired on 2020-01-17 22:59:30)

EP thinks this votecount is one of the most important ones as NSG finally moves her vote to someone other than the Wgeurts/Cheeky slot and it is on Formerfish right as her own wagon swells. I agree. I think this move of her vote makes it more likely that NSG was trying to swing a mislynch onto Fish as a counter to her own wagon. I think this swell also shows that scum need to commit to a NSG lynch possibility.

After this, we get the flash wagon on BBmolla, but the interim VC looks something like this

northsidegal
- 7
(
Kittymo, Cephrir, Dunnstral, Formerfish, gobbledygook
)

Formerfish
- 2
(
BBmolla
,
northsidegal,
Dannflor,
Espeonage,
Dongempire)

gobbledygook
- 1
(
Hopkirk
)

Not Voting - 1
(Auro, Cheeky)

Here you see that Dong has placed the Fish wagon in direct contention with the NSG wagon.

This wagon is then followed up with the flash wagon on BBmolla

BBmolla
- 5
CheekyTeeky, Dannflor,
Cephrir, Formerfish
, Dongempire

northsidegal
- 4
(
Kittymo, Dunnstral, gobbledygook, BBmolla
,)

Formerfish
- 2

northsidegal
,
Espeonage

gobbledygook
- 1

(Hopkirk)

Not Voting - 2
(Auro, CheekyTeeky)

This now shows that there were TWO competing wagons to scum NSG which makes me think that scum was desperately trying to save NSG because 1) it is White Flag and bussing puts them at a massive deficit, 2) it is NSG, 3) her team has RC. It is plausible that scum saw even getting at least one mislynch out of NSG's life is worth it because she has the capability of getting herself out of this hole.

However, I think that scum probably saw the short sightedness of that and after BBmolla reacted the way he did at L-2 would have painted everyone on the BB wagon in a bad light.

In post 1523, T-Bone wrote:
Vote Count
northsidegal
- 7
(
Kittymo, Dunnstral, gobbledygook, BBMolla
, Dannflor,
Cephrir
, Dongempire)

Formerfish
- 2
(
northsidegal
,
Espeonage
)

BBMolla
- 2
(CheekyTeeky,
Formerfish
)

gobbledygook
- 1

(Hopkirk)

Not Voting - 1
(Auro)

Activity Check - Lynch at #1460

Deadline: (expired on 2020-01-17 22:59:30)

In post 1646, T-Bone wrote:
Vote Count
Hopkirk
- 3
(
BBMolla
, CheekyTeeky,
Cephrir
)

Espeonage
- 1
(Dannflor)

CheekyTeeky - 1
(
gobbledygook
)

Cephrir
- 1
(Dongempire)

Dannflor - 1
(
Espeonage
)

Not Voting - 11
(Auro,
Dunnstral, Formerfish, Hopkirk
)

Activity Check - Start of Day

Deadline: (expired on 2020-02-02 13:30:00)

With 11 Alive, it takes 6 to Lynch

In post 1854, T-Bone wrote:
Vote Count
Espeonage
- 4
(Dannflor, CheekyTeeky,
Dunnstral
, Auro)

Hopkirk
- 2
(
BBMolla, Cephrir
)

CheekyTeeky - 1
(Dongempire)

Dannflor - 1
(
Espeonage
)

Dongempire - 1
(
gobbledygook
)

Not Voting - 2
(
Formerfish, Hopkirk
)

Activity Check - All Good!

Deadline: (expired on 2020-02-02 13:30:00)

With 11 Alive, it takes 6 to Lynch

In post 2067, T-Bone wrote:
Vote Count
Espeonage
- 4
(Dannflor, CheekyTeeky,
Cephrir, Dunnstral
)

Dongempire - 2
(
gobbledygook, Formerfish
)

CheekyTeeky - 1
(Dongempire)

Hopkirk
- 1
(
Espeonage
)

Not Voting - 3
(Auro,
BBMolla, Hopkirk)

Activity Check - All Good!

Deadline: (expired on 2020-02-02 13:30:00)

With 11 Alive, it takes 6 to Lynch

EP wants me to note that Auro remained uninvolved in the whole counter wagon situation despite being there when the wagons between Fish and NSG reached parity. He thinks this makes it more likely that Auro is scum waiting for the town to decide one way or another. If that is true, the way Dong and Auro have interacted earlier today would make sense as scum buddies. I think we should probably kill Dong because the evidence is stronger against him

As I said last night, I really think that the key to winning here is analyzing the Fish > NSG > BBmolla > NSG patterns. I will shout until the cows come home that those counter wagons to NSG had scum. The issue is that there also has to be a townie involved which is why I think scum are not killing within the vocal players because if they kill the townie involved in that situation it might lead town directly to the scum.

Miami traffic was really bad this morning, but I will be back around lunch time

Auro · Post Post #3134 (ISO) » Thu Feb 06, 2020 3:20 am

In post 3133, gobbledygook wrote:EP wants me to note that
Auro remained uninvolved in the whole counter wagon situation despite being there when the wagons between Fish and NSG reached parity.
He thinks this makes it more likely that Auro is scum waiting for the town to decide one way or another. If that is true, the way Dong and Auro have interacted earlier today would make sense as scum buddies. I think we should probably kill Dong because the evidence is stronger against him

Incorrect. I laid an L-1 vote on FF, unvoted later, and was not present during the Molla wagoning + NSG wagoning which took place in a few hours. The votecount at FF's L-1 is missing.

Auro · Post Post #3135 (ISO) » Thu Feb 06, 2020 3:37 am

Nancy's take:
>FF counterwagon to NSG, must be town
>Gobbles and Molla voted together on both NSG and FF; hence prob not scum together
>Joan's opening town
>FF and Dong feel genuine
>Agrees on Dann locktown

Auro · Post Post #3136 (ISO) » Thu Feb 06, 2020 3:44 am

In post 1228, Dunnstral wrote:She said her team thought gobble was scum and then said FF is the only wagon she can see flipping scum

And then she won't answer to numerous inquiries about what is going on

Plus her play when she comes back is pretty blatantly scum

Nancy's take Part II:
>Post above heavily implicates Gobscum
>Classic scum distancing
>Just lynch Gob!

gobbledygook · Post Post #3137 (ISO) » Thu Feb 06, 2020 5:01 am

In post 1300, Dannflor wrote:
Formerfish - 5
(BBMolla, northsidegal, Dannflor, Espeonage, Dongempire)

northsidegal - 5
(Kittymo, Cephrir, Dunnstral, Formerfish, gobbledygook)

gobbledygook - 1
(Hopkirk)

Not Voting - 2
(Auro, CheekyTeeky)

for reference

Cheeky, Auro, I think you should vote FF

In post 1304, Auro wrote:How long to deadline?

In post 1306, Auro wrote:Small observation: NSG pushed FF when Gobble was the counterwagon, but Gobble is pushing NSG when she's the counterwagon.

In post 1308, Auro wrote:FF, I'm still undecided: can we talk?

In post 1313, Auro wrote:
In post 1309, Formerfish wrote:Sure, I'm not sure how productive it'll be right now.
That's fine. Would you be giving a detailed readslist of all slots?

In post 1314, Auro wrote:Be fine*

This is what EP is referencing, Auro. You were there when the NSG wagon happened.

gobbledygook · Post Post #3138 (ISO) » Thu Feb 06, 2020 5:02 am

Actually, after I read through those posts around that time it looks like Auro is trying to chain lynch NSG into Gobble since Day 1.

gobbledygook · Post Post #3139 (ISO) » Thu Feb 06, 2020 5:07 am

In post 3120, CheekyTeeky wrote:
In post 3117, Auro wrote:it's believable that this is an NSG bus, no? Her FF vote was half-assed without any case, just said "this is likeliest to hit scum".
It'd work for either of them if they were both scum because they both ride towncred. The issue with that is in FF not voting her. If it were an attempted bus clear on FF then wouldn't FF also vote her for towncred? Obviously if they're both scum they would prefer the NSG lynch. FF voted BB right?

Why do you think they would prefer an NSG lynch?

Auro · Post Post #3140 (ISO) » Thu Feb 06, 2020 5:10 am

In post 3138, gobbledygook wrote:You were there when the NSG wagon happened.

The first NSG wagon, yes. I'm referring to the final NSG lynch wagon. At the point you quoted, I was still torn between FF and NSG.

gobbledygook wrote:Actually, after I read through those posts around that time it looks like Auro is trying to chain lynch NSG into Gobble since Day 1.

Okay, so this would be equivalent to me voting NSG, yeah?

gobbledygook · Post Post #3141 (ISO) » Thu Feb 06, 2020 5:14 am

In post 3140, Auro wrote:
In post 3138, gobbledygook wrote:You were there when the NSG wagon happened.
The first NSG wagon, yes. I'm referring to the final NSG lynch wagon. At the point you quoted, I was still torn between FF and NSG.

gobbledygook wrote:Actually, after I read through those posts around that time it looks like Auro is trying to chain lynch NSG into Gobble since Day 1.
Okay, so this would be equivalent to me voting NSG, yeah?

I mean, you can say that, but it isn't helping your case from my perspective.
This type of soft push is exactly what I would expect to see from a scum buddy who doesn't want to actually kill their scumbuddy, but wants to appear like they did.

Why were you torn between Fish and NSG?
Why do you townread Dong?

Auro · Post Post #3142 (ISO) » Thu Feb 06, 2020 5:22 am

Because I couldn't decide who was the better vote. In a vacuum I would prefer NSG but losing town!NSG D1 would be a heavy cost to pay.
FF's posting was very lackluster, but after I got him to do some mild paraphrasing of his PT, etc I began losing heart.

If I didn't actually want to kill my scumbuddy NSG, I could've nudged things towards FF, who was looking bad already. I did the opposite. What purpose would an extended engagement with FF which results in him looking townier achieve?

I townread Dong because even though most of his recent pushes are bad, they still read as genuine - and his earlier pushes even more so. I've played with town!Dong, and whatever he's done doesn't seem outside his townrange.
That's a very malleable read, though.

gobbledygook · Post Post #3143 (ISO) » Thu Feb 06, 2020 6:12 am

In post 3134, Auro wrote:
In post 3133, gobbledygook wrote:EP wants me to note that
Auro remained uninvolved in the whole counter wagon situation despite being there when the wagons between Fish and NSG reached parity.
He thinks this makes it more likely that Auro is scum waiting for the town to decide one way or another. If that is true, the way Dong and Auro have interacted earlier today would make sense as scum buddies. I think we should probably kill Dong because the evidence is stronger against him
Incorrect. I laid an L-1 vote on FF, unvoted later, and was not present during the Molla wagoning + NSG wagoning which took place in a few hours. The votecount at FF's L-1 is missing.

I’m confused Auro. Are you saying you wanted NSG when you unvoted Fish?

Auro · Post Post #3144 (ISO) » Thu Feb 06, 2020 6:17 am

Yes, I believe I must have made the "NSG might be a better lynch, lost heart in FF" post around that point.

BBmolla · Post Post #3145 (ISO) » Thu Feb 06, 2020 6:33 am

All I can think of when I look at those VCs is that Dong is scum

Dannflor · Post Post #3146 (ISO) » Thu Feb 06, 2020 9:22 am

Does Pops have specific reasons for thinking I’m scummy? Or is it a general feeling.

Cheeky, you’re positing a BoP case (which Ank is enraged at because Hopkirk was the only lynch she had any hand in), which is frankly not good given our reads + the flips so far, and then simultaneously calling it a PoE read. Ank feels you’re not this incoherent as town.

Ank also wants to reaffirm that pushing weird night kill shenanigans is bad and scummy. The night kills are all because they were obviously town. Blatantly town. People pushing this aren’t focused on killing based on reads but on keeping the PoE open as wide as possible. Throwing paranoia and doubt around are congruent with that.

I think I’m the only one on my team who isn’t angry with Cheeky and/or scum reading her. I see the case for it but I’m truly not getting anything out of this engagement today.

I’m gonna focus on reevaluating everyone and rereading the game when I come back after my break. I’ve said most of what I need to say until I’m able to do some rereading and get my thoughts in order.

Cheeky, consider the fact that I’m town though, and you get your way and I die. I leave you with the instructions to never lynch Auro. Auro gets night killed. You are left in an f5 with BB, FF, Gobble, and Dong. What do you do?

Dannflor · Post Post #3147 (ISO) » Thu Feb 06, 2020 9:22 am

oh the worst wants to replace into this game and lynch cheekibreeki

gobbledygook · Post Post #3148 (ISO) » Thu Feb 06, 2020 11:59 am

In post 3144, Auro wrote:Yes, I believe I must have made the "NSG might be a better lynch, lost heart in FF" post around that point.

I’m still grappling with this.

You put Fish at L-1, then unvote. A day later and 200 posts later you are saying you want an NSG lynch but don’t want to put her at L-1.

I don’t get why you wouldn’t even vote NSG at that time especially when her wagon and Fish’s wagon were in direct competition with one another. If you were afraid of ending day, why even put Fish at L-1?

CheekyTeeky · Post Post #3149 (ISO) » Thu Feb 06, 2020 12:27 pm

In post 3139, gobbledygook wrote:Why do you think they would prefer an NSG lynch?

Because FF had been posting all Day and NSGs slot had a lot of pressure on it/no content Day 1.