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Post Post #3400 (ISO) » Sat Feb 08, 2020 8:10 pm

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In post 2743, Formerfish wrote:
In post 2742, Auro wrote:That's fine, I just want to see some actual content before the thread's locked. Consider Hop town obviously
Well, ive been working under the assumption that you, cheeky and ceph are town.

That would put my pool at Gob/Dong/Dan.

Out of that group id have to say Dong is my #1 suspect, and then idk because both Dan and Gob seem like they should be town.
this to a pivot of Auro!scum today actually reeks of opportunism
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Post Post #3401 (ISO) » Sat Feb 08, 2020 8:10 pm

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dong do you play age of empires 2?
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Post Post #3402 (ISO) » Sat Feb 08, 2020 8:11 pm

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I changed my mind, I like VOTE: Formerfish better to start with.

Although I'm open to debate Auro if you're still dead set on Gobble.
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Post Post #3403 (ISO) » Sat Feb 08, 2020 8:23 pm

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EC wanted me to post this from him:

I wanted to highlight something. Let's look at the concept called Occam's Razor. I was thinking about solves, and my FF read, and thought back to the hammer. Look at viewtopic.php?p=11559257#p11559257

He had not posted in ~28 hours before this post. His first reply back, is a naked vote, with no explanation for Hop being scum, a throwaway line, and a hammer. What are the odds he happens to come back, and cast the hammer vote, within 1 minute of it being L-1?

I wrote this off originally, but looking back, I just think it's fucking surreal odds.
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Post Post #3404 (ISO) » Sat Feb 08, 2020 8:25 pm

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Guys if you lynch Auro we lose this game

straight up

I don't think a lylo with any combination of the remaining players is remotely winnable
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Post Post #3405 (ISO) » Sat Feb 08, 2020 8:29 pm

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This post is from Ankamius, she really wanted me to post this:

You all really just need to look at what the fuck is actually going on for the game to be obvious, you all are so focused on bullshit that doesn't matter that you're not looking at what is actually going on beneath your eyes, I mean just LOOK at this:

A) Cheeky and Auro are ENDLESSLY fighting about random bullshit that doesn't matter for literal pages and pages on end. They are relentless. Cheeky is town for this because the irrationality is so overexaggerated at this crucial point of the game that I really can't ever see scum going down this route. Auro has had consistent responses that are congruent with themselves and hasn't flinched at anything that has been thrown at him despite how consistent the pressure has been on. The last time I saw scum Auro, he played a lot more safe with his posting and didn't go into all these obscene walls. I 100% agree with duck that his isn't his scum response. This is way too much effort and way too consistent in EVERYTHING he's doing.

B) BBmolla is just town. Not rethinking this, sorry.

Now that that's over with, it's frankly obvious what lese is going on.

Gobble has been consistently around in this day phase and constantly talking AI stuff, asking good questions, and actively sorting the game. Town.

FF, ignoring that the absence is likely NAI due to real life, has been stilted and focusing almost only on Auro the entire da phase, and his trajectory today looks like he's trying to kill Auro while letting other slots take the fall for him. There's no game solving here, it's just a scum agenda.

Dongempire LITERALLY DOES NOTHING until this giant case, and now he's back to doing nothing. He literally has two members in his team that can make that giant case on Auro, which took him THREE DAYS to make. He's done fuck all today aside from that. He's scum.

THE AGENDAS ARE OBVIOUS
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Post Post #3406 (ISO) » Sat Feb 08, 2020 8:30 pm

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In post 3403, Dannflor wrote:He had not posted in ~28 hours before this post. His first reply back, is a naked vote, with no explanation for Hop being scum, a throwaway line, and a hammer. What are the odds he happens to come back, and cast the hammer vote, within 1 minute of it being L-1?
Did he write all that in a minute though?
And wouldn't he NK Cheeky?
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Post Post #3407 (ISO) » Sat Feb 08, 2020 8:30 pm

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Given that Ank town reads Gobble, and Tom does a little too

I feel more confident on FF overall because no one in my team town reads him
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Post Post #3408 (ISO) » Sat Feb 08, 2020 8:30 pm

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In post 3406, Auro wrote:And wouldn't he NK Cheeky?
I don't think he needs to after the NSG flip and people start saying FF is town because of it
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Post Post #3409 (ISO) » Sat Feb 08, 2020 8:31 pm

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maybe I am scum reading Gobble for stupid reasons and town reading Dong for stupider reasons

idk

Talk to me on your Dong read, Auro?
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Post Post #3410 (ISO) » Sat Feb 08, 2020 8:32 pm

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In post 3405, Dannflor wrote:Gobble has been consistently around in this day phase and constantly talking AI stuff, asking good questions, and actively sorting the game. Town
What? Can you substantiate this with examples from this day? Who did he actively sort? What good questions?
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Post Post #3411 (ISO) » Sat Feb 08, 2020 8:33 pm

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Sorry for sparse posting, will be here properly soon~
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Post Post #3412 (ISO) » Sat Feb 08, 2020 8:34 pm

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That's Ank's view of Gobble's play this day phase not mine, but I can ask if you like.

I will say however that I did like this post from Gobble:
In post 3249, gobbledygook wrote:Hnnnnnngh the ease of Auro’s wagon makes me feel bad about this

Can we please back off before it even gets to be the weekend
If only because Dann + BBmolla are the only ones not on board with your lynch, so it's a little suspect that no one else has remarked on how easy it would be to lynch you (even if Dann + Auro is the popular fan theory)
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Post Post #3413 (ISO) » Sat Feb 08, 2020 8:34 pm

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In post 3405, Dannflor wrote:He literally has two members in his team that can make that giant case on Auro,
Do you find his giant case on me different from his other posts about me (or in general) different in a linguistic sense?
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Post Post #3414 (ISO) » Sat Feb 08, 2020 8:35 pm

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In post 3411, Auro wrote:Sorry for sparse posting, will be here properly soon~
That's fine! I'm exhausted so apologies if I come out a little incoherent or overly verbose here
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Post Post #3415 (ISO) » Sat Feb 08, 2020 8:35 pm

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In post 3413, Auro wrote:
In post 3405, Dannflor wrote:He literally has two members in his team that can make that giant case on Auro,
Do you find his giant case on me different from his other posts about me (or in general) different in a linguistic sense?
I don't think this is relevant given he'd have to paraphrase it anyway.
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Post Post #3416 (ISO) » Sat Feb 08, 2020 8:36 pm

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In post 3401, Dannflor wrote:dong do you play age of empires 2?
Yup, but im only 1800 hd and on definitive i couldnt get a stable rating because of the crashings especially in teamgames. I was just playing yesterday in fact
Age of Empires Elo: 1500 something in DE, 1800 in HD
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Post Post #3417 (ISO) » Sat Feb 08, 2020 8:37 pm

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In post 3416, Donempire wrote:
In post 3401, Dannflor wrote:dong do you play age of empires 2?
Yup, but im only 1800 hd and on definitive i couldnt get a stable rating because of the crashings especially in teamgames. I was just playing yesterday in fact
I just started ranked/placements in DE

I think I hovered around 1700 or 1750 HD
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Post Post #3418 (ISO) » Sat Feb 08, 2020 8:39 pm

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@Auro

Ank sent me these links:

viewtopic.php?p=11564802#p11564802
viewtopic.php?p=11565451#p11565451
viewtopic.php?p=11567247#p11567247
viewtopic.php?p=11567255#p11567255
viewtopic.php?p=11568173#p11568173
viewtopic.php?p=11570106#p11570106
viewtopic.php?p=11570124#p11570124

and also she said to just... look at what he's been posting today

his questions are consistently relevant and he's giving reads without obscuring them

his reads are also shifting in what looks like a natural way
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Post Post #3419 (ISO) » Sat Feb 08, 2020 8:45 pm

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In post 3417, Dannflor wrote:
In post 3416, Donempire wrote:
In post 3401, Dannflor wrote:dong do you play age of empires 2?
Yup, but im only 1800 hd and on definitive i couldnt get a stable rating because of the crashings especially in teamgames. I was just playing yesterday in fact
I just started ranked/placements in DE

I think I hovered around 1700 or 1750 HD
Thats around the average rating of our team too, we can play one sometime if you're up for it. I'll give you my steam account if you'd think about it
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Post Post #3420 (ISO) » Sat Feb 08, 2020 8:54 pm

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yeah that'd be great, I'd definitely think about it
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Post Post #3421 (ISO) » Sat Feb 08, 2020 8:54 pm

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@Gobble, when you get back to the thread, could I request your brief thoughts on every slot individually?
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Post Post #3422 (ISO) » Sat Feb 08, 2020 9:02 pm

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Hm true, he'd have to paraphrase it, I still think there might be some Dong artifacts. Nvm on this for now.

I think Ank's having too less a standard for Gob. I'll look at the links.
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Post Post #3423 (ISO) » Sat Feb 08, 2020 9:24 pm

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Dann ask Auro for a readslist.
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Post Post #3424 (ISO) » Sat Feb 08, 2020 9:26 pm

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I think a general list from everyone would help at this juncture tbh

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