White Flag - TM2020

Dannflor · Post Post #3725 (ISO) » Mon Feb 10, 2020 8:25 pm

In post 3721, Formerfish wrote:
In post 3712, Dannflor wrote:
In post 3706, Formerfish wrote:Dann, i dont know what you are doing right now, but you are eating your own tail.
you came into this day saying me and Auro was scum, you seemed pretty confident in that

Why does something that happened in another game suddenly overtake that read
Because it had me rethink people who i had as town. Are you being dense on purpose, or is this you claiming scum finally?

oh are you scum reading me?

I honestly have no idea what your read is on me right now

CheekyTeeky · Post Post #3726 (ISO) » Mon Feb 10, 2020 8:25 pm

It's like Hopkirk all over again. A bunch of words and no real reason.

Auro · Post Post #3727 (ISO) » Mon Feb 10, 2020 8:26 pm

In post 3724, Formerfish wrote:Danns been pretty quiet all day and then Dong hits l-1 and he goes ballistic trying to swing the lynch my way.

Dann was part of that L-1 though, lol

Formerfish · Post Post #3728 (ISO) » Mon Feb 10, 2020 8:26 pm

In post 3725, Dannflor wrote:
In post 3721, Formerfish wrote:
In post 3712, Dannflor wrote:
In post 3706, Formerfish wrote:Dann, i dont know what you are doing right now, but you are eating your own tail.
you came into this day saying me and Auro was scum, you seemed pretty confident in that

Why does something that happened in another game suddenly overtake that read
Because it had me rethink people who i had as town. Are you being dense on purpose, or is this you claiming scum finally?
oh are you scum reading me?

I honestly have no idea what your read is on me right now

You keep flip flopping on every read you have and you only woke from your slumber when dong got put at l-1 so consider me looking at the game state and deducing whos scum.

Auro · Post Post #3729 (ISO) » Mon Feb 10, 2020 8:27 pm

In post 3723, CheekyTeeky wrote:Maybe we should just lynch gobbles

I would very highly prefer this.
FF I'm sorry if I'm asking for the nth time but let's please talk about Gobbles read.

Dannflor · Post Post #3730 (ISO) » Mon Feb 10, 2020 8:27 pm

In post 3718, CheekyTeeky wrote:Right...

In post 3720, Auro wrote:Individual read confidence should weigh into possible team confidence, you shouldn't simply go with "more possible teams"

I have explained this so many times that I feel like you guys may have stopped reading my posts at some point. We've eliminated teams based on interactions between players, completely devoid of reads.

Now, our individual read confidence does play into team confidence! But when individual reads are fairly close, covering more ground is appealing because there's always a chance I'm wrong on a town read.

Formerfish · Post Post #3731 (ISO) » Mon Feb 10, 2020 8:28 pm

In post 3729, Auro wrote:
In post 3723, CheekyTeeky wrote:Maybe we should just lynch gobbles
I would very highly prefer this.
FF I'm sorry if I'm asking for the nth time but let's please talk about Gobbles read.

Meta townread based off multiple recent games i played against him in a hydra with Jingle, Mordhaus.

Dannflor · Post Post #3732 (ISO) » Mon Feb 10, 2020 8:29 pm

In post 3728, Formerfish wrote:You keep flip flopping on every read you have and you only woke from your slumber when dong got put at l-1 so consider me looking at the game state and deducing whos scum.

yes I awoke from my slumber

I got home from work

look I honestly am perfectly fine with a Dong lynch

I want one of Dong / FF dead today

I'm voting FF because Ank wants it but if Dong gets to L-1 I'm hammering

Formerfish · Post Post #3733 (ISO) » Mon Feb 10, 2020 8:29 pm

Pretty sure I was still unannounced as the 2nd head.

Auro · Post Post #3734 (ISO) » Mon Feb 10, 2020 8:32 pm

FF from my read of his meta it doesn't match. There must be a reason. Can you explain which elements from meta?

Dannflor · Post Post #3735 (ISO) » Mon Feb 10, 2020 8:34 pm

also sorry for being crabby everyone I had a long day and I really really want this game to be over

I'm also really not seeing what everyone else is seeing re: FF which is adding to my frustration because either I'm being stupid or everyone else is and blah

BBmolla · Post Post #3736 (ISO) » Mon Feb 10, 2020 8:34 pm

In post 3708, Auro wrote:
In post 3683, BBmolla wrote:Every time they post though it seems agendaless, but also the early wagons
I don't see which early wagon clears Gobbles.
Gobbles was on the NSG wagon sure, but Dong hammered it.
Didn't you say they might have been lurking on and off while town destroyed itself? So they can choose to be agendaless; why does that make them town?

that post was about ff

Auro · Post Post #3737 (ISO) » Mon Feb 10, 2020 8:35 pm

In post 3730, Dannflor wrote:Now, our individual read confidence does play into team confidence! But when individual reads are fairly close, covering more ground is appealing because there's always a chance I'm wrong on a town read

There's more. Team confidence within two scumreads is higher than a scumread with townread. Fmpov only consider within the four as primary

Formerfish · Post Post #3738 (ISO) » Mon Feb 10, 2020 8:37 pm

In post 3734, Auro wrote:FF from my read of his meta it doesn't match. There must be a reason. Can you explain which elements from meta?

Generally I found his play to be wanting in the games ive played against him. I find his analysis to be kinda lazy and his reads havent been very good. He prizes his play a lot and i think his hubris a lot of the time gets the best of him. I have found him scummy each time ive played him and hes always turned out town. I just cant assume that this is the time hes scum when hes playing into exactly what i expect of him as town. Kinda bad.

Dannflor · Post Post #3739 (ISO) » Mon Feb 10, 2020 8:38 pm

In post 3737, Auro wrote:
In post 3730, Dannflor wrote:Now, our individual read confidence does play into team confidence! But when individual reads are fairly close, covering more ground is appealing because there's always a chance I'm wrong on a town read
There's more. Team confidence within two scumreads is higher than a scumread with townread. Fmpov only consider within the four as primary

in this case we have FF as being with Dong and Gobbles

and then we have Dong being with FF, Gobbles, and then some of our town reads

assuming our team reads are all 100% correct then Dong is the objectively better lynch

based on read confidence though my team wants FF

Auro · Post Post #3740 (ISO) » Mon Feb 10, 2020 8:45 pm

And what discounts BB+Gob again?

CheekyTeeky · Post Post #3741 (ISO) » Mon Feb 10, 2020 8:57 pm

So why can't FF be with me or BB? @Dann

CheekyTeeky · Post Post #3742 (ISO) » Mon Feb 10, 2020 8:58 pm

VOTE: Dann

CheekyTeeky · Post Post #3743 (ISO) » Mon Feb 10, 2020 8:59 pm

BB when you get back I would still like to hear about town gobbles and town FF.

BBmolla · Post Post #3744 (ISO) » Mon Feb 10, 2020 9:11 pm

In post 3740, Auro wrote:And what discounts BB+Gob again?

are you fucking kidding me

BBmolla · Post Post #3745 (ISO) » Mon Feb 10, 2020 9:13 pm

In post 1267, T-Bone wrote:
Vote Count
northsidegal - 5
(Kittymo, Cephrir, Dunnstral, Formerfish, gobbledygook)

Formerfish - 4
(BBMolla, northsidegal, Dannflor, Espeonage)

gobbledygook - 1
(Hopkirk)

Not Voting - 3
(Auro, CheekyTeeky, Dongempire)

Activity Check - All Good!

Deadline: (expired on 2020-01-17 22:59:30)

this is why FF is town

Auro · Post Post #3746 (ISO) » Mon Feb 10, 2020 9:13 pm

You think Auro+Gob is possible, which I have the same reaction to.

BBmolla · Post Post #3747 (ISO) » Mon Feb 10, 2020 9:15 pm

In post 3743, CheekyTeeky wrote:BB when you get back I would still like to hear about town gobbles and town FF.

okay

so gobbles is getting run up, everything thinks he's scum

so he gets mad, cusses everyone out, and leaves

idk the whole thing doesn't seem like gobbles scum strategy

BBmolla · Post Post #3748 (ISO) » Mon Feb 10, 2020 9:16 pm

also apologies if I misgender anyone

BBmolla · Post Post #3749 (ISO) » Mon Feb 10, 2020 9:17 pm

look im only voting Dong, do what ya'll please, get a lynch without me if you like