White Flag - TM2020

[CheekyTeeky]

Yes, Gobble did replace into both of those scumgames perhaps, but the tone is still very different. Even with some amount of early game content Gobble's tone has remained the same; so I'm not interested in any attacks there. Minus points to Dunn for continuing to push there.

This is so gross.

[Auro]

Oh God we're back to the "how dare you call Dunn scum for pushing Gobbles, wow chainsaw" argument?

[CheekyTeeky]

Well I keep getting distracted by all your scumtells early game when reading. Like BB/Dong/FF/gobbles all have instances of being explicitly scummy but you are more subtle in the overly self-conscious way.

[CheekyTeeky]

Hi!
VOTE: wgeurts
Wagons

Scumpost.

Why did you ask that question?

I will reveal this once everyone has answered

It's perfectly fine to introduce a discussion point, but why not just explain that at the beginning?
What have you learnt from the responses?

Try hard scumpost.

I must say I'm loving this game - less spam, a lot of walls, a slower pace

Yes, Gobble did replace into both of those scumgames perhaps, but the tone is still very different. Even with some amount of early game content Gobble's tone has remained the same; so I'm not interested in any attacks there. Minus points to Dunn for continuing to push there.

I'm liking Dann more now, specifically that he had TW giving him insights and the explanation didn't seem post-hoc-fabricated.

FormerFish isn't as impressive as his former games at all. He has a lot of posts, but not a lot of content, save a weakish push on KittyMo.

VOTE: auro

?

VOTE: FormerFish

Obvious scumpost.

[Auro]

That's a towntell for me though, I engage with pushes on me pretty hard as town because that helps gamesolve. As scum I'd know I'm annoying people by doing that, at least would realize that that's what's happening when I do that. I'd focus on looking generically towny (asking towny questions, fluid voting etc) instead.

"Overly self conscious" I don't think you'll find this if you lol at my scumgames. I'd argue with people like Thor for pages upon pages because people always suspect him at the end of it for some reason.

[Auro]

Hi!
VOTE: wgeurts
Wagons

Scumpost.

Why did you ask that question?

I will reveal this once everyone has answered

It's perfectly fine to introduce a discussion point, but why not just explain that at the beginning?
What have you learnt from the responses?

Try hard scumpost.

I must say I'm loving this game - less spam, a lot of walls, a slower pace

Yes, Gobble did replace into both of those scumgames perhaps, but the tone is still very different. Even with some amount of early game content Gobble's tone has remained the same; so I'm not interested in any attacks there. Minus points to Dunn for continuing to push there.

I'm liking Dann more now, specifically that he had TW giving him insights and the explanation didn't seem post-hoc-fabricated.

FormerFish isn't as impressive as his former games at all. He has a lot of posts, but not a lot of content, save a weakish push on KittyMo.

VOTE: auro

?

VOTE: FormerFish

Obvious scumpost.

Scumpost

[CheekyTeeky]

It only works if you think I'm scum knobhead. It's for the town not you anyway.

[Auro]

You very well know why I said that.
Actually nevermind, nah you don't.

[CheekyTeeky]

I assume you were trying to illustrate that the same could be said about any post, which is irrelevant because anyone with eyes can see how bad your posting was early game.

[CheekyTeeky]

BB you need to open your eyes buddy because we have scum!Auro here setting you up for after the town!Dong flip.

[Auro]

And yet no one can really articulate why it's "obviously scum" or "bad". Which reveals that they didn't think deeper about said posts, or the motivations behind said posts, or how the characteristics they observed in the posts which "made them bad" could be part of playstyle, etc etc.

It's quite lazy to simply call them bad without justification. And a common line of reasoning I see you guys take is "You were scum and obviously trying to do this" without considering the "You were town and trying to do that" counter universe. When you call that scummy in itself, the former must carry significantly more likelihood.

This is the last I'll comment on this - I'm not defending myself to you any more. I'm tired of this. If you're lynching me, go ahead - you'll find that Dong, FormerFish and Molla will all sheep you. And take the blame for it post game - don't blame me for a "scummy RVS post" later.

Anyone with competent eyes will see that in retrospect, even if it felt bad to them it's outweighed by my later play heavily. The only ones who'd share your perspective are Dong and FF, I don't think you should be proud of that. Molla at least is placing me in a PoE and trying to justify his position in other ways.

Dann, we still need to talk about Molla. I'm slowly giving up on the game, but I've been right about every flip so far and I want the perfect solve personally. :3

[Auro]

BB you need to open your eyes buddy because we have scum!Auro here setting you up for after the town!Dong flip.

But I don't want a Dong flip
I've been arguing against a Dong flip
So

[Auro]

VOTE: Gobbledygook

[Formerfish]

Why'd you wait for Gob to pop in, say he'll be here later to answer you calls and then vote him?

[Auro]

It's quite sad that Gobbles is the sanest voice here apart from Dann and I think Gobbles is scum.

^

[Formerfish]

That answers half of the question, why wait if you thought that?

[Donempire]

Bb is stupid, im happy we wont have to rely on him.

[Donempire]

Like if you could give a case on Dong that would be more effective. Specifically if you could talk about her nsg vote and why she's going for Auro/Dann today instead of you/gobbles/FF who were probably the easiest lynches day start.

NSG vote is for towncred. It doesn't actually give towncred, but I think Dong would think it does. I'm also not 100% confident Dong knew it was a hammer, but regardless that was the lynch we were doing.

Going for Auro to distance cause they're scumbuddies.

What the fuck?
Okay just vote me and flake please

[Auro]

That answers half of the question, why wait if you thought that?

I was not going to vote now, but I'm kinda giving up, so might as well.

[Donempire]

Oh wait, molla is sheeping cheeky on an auro lynch?

Thats the second dumbest thing i've seen said this hour.

[Auro]

I don't get it. You think I'm scum, why would Molla sheeping Cheeky on an Auro lynch be dumb?

[Donempire]

Because its untrue. Molla has parked his vote on me all day. If he was down to vote you we would have won. Cheeky ff and i are ready.

[Auro]

Oh you're saying that my saying Molla will sheep Cheeky on an Auro lynch is dumb
Hahaha
Right that makes a lot more sense

[Donempire]

Lol @ you still trying to discredit with no proof.
Keep fighting the good fight

[Auro]

Hey that's not what I told you to say in the scum PT!!