White Flag - TM2020

[BBmolla]

Cheeky if Auro is town I’m just going to instavote Dong tomorrow

You confident that sequence leads to us winning?

[BBmolla]

Maybe I should just let y’all lynch Dann and sit the rest of this day out, I feel like we’re going to lose so I’d rather start to care less so it hurts less

[BBmolla]

BBmolla, you’re scumreading me for my post count?

Graphs gobbles!

[Auro]

Cheeky if Auro is town I’m just going to instavote Dong tomorrow

You confident that sequence leads to us winning?

In the event that I'm lynched, I'm currently thinking you should be lynched and not Dong.

[BBmolla]

Cheeky if Auro is town I’m just going to instavote Dong tomorrow

You confident that sequence leads to us winning?

In the event that I'm lynched, I'm currently thinking you should be lynched and not Dong.

cool I really don't care

[Auro]

Cool.
FF, if I'm lynched and flip town, will you listen to dead town Auro and lynch Molla if it's Molla v Dong?

[BBmolla]

If you honestly think I'm scum at this point you're fucking high bro

[Auro]

Explain why that's an insane position to take - I disagree with you that you're "bad at scum" and that's not a premise you'll convince me on.

What else makes you obv town that I'm missing?

[Auro]

And I honestly don't think you need to be that good at scum to post what you've posted in this thread, either, honestly.

[BBmolla]

Where is your disagreement that I'm bad at scum coming from

[BBmolla]

Like at this point it's a huge reason why I think you could be scum, you're willing to believe me when I say I'm great at scum, but then when I provide evidence of the opposite you refuse to believe me

???

Doesn't seem fucking real to me

[BBmolla]

And the fact that you mentioned my reputation yet had ZERO people that you gathered that reputation from

Like it just sounds like you're talking out your fucking ass Auro

[Auro]

Oh hell no. You'd have to be *pretty* bad at scum so as to not be able to fake your posting in this game.

You're at the very least at a certain baseline of scumplay. You established that yourself - you're aware of what progressions to take, bla blah blah.

[CheekyTeeky]

Cheeky if Auro is town I’m just going to instavote Dong tomorrow

You confident that sequence leads to us winning?

How will you know Auro is town if we're lynching Dann? I'm still waiting on the Dong reasons from you.

[BBmolla]

Auro
Dann
Cheeky
Dong
Molla
FF=Gobbles

Nancy's readslist.

Somehow he's even saltier than me and he's not even in this game.

Nancy gave me permission a few days ago to call everyone gamethrowing WOATs.
I'll paraphrase what she's been discussing in the PT with a few cuts.

Whoever's town is risking gamethrowing and playing poorly. They should feel bad. After your (Auro) flip, Dann will be killed and scum will win, because Dann is 100% conftown after you flip.
Gob is possibly scum, independent of Cheeky.
<3 Dann.
I agree that it's suspicious for FF to ignore his teammate's read.
..
Agree with Dann on Cheeky. There's always paranoia about Dann, he pretty much only started playing a lot townier after BP.
..
Yes, Dann is obvtown since he won't defend you at this point and for his Cheeky read.
I'm almost a 100% sure on that.
.. (Some complaints from me about Cheeky asking for a reads list and saying it's BS that my scumpool has everyone but Dann and Cheeky in it)
I struggle to come up with reads lists in my actual games xD
Gobbles/Molla is unlikely due to VCA, convey that to her.
I think Dann's right about Dong. VCA shows Molla town but less certain.
.. (Reads list that I quoted earlier)
Cheeky opposed NSG wagon and NSG would have told her teammates to bus since she loathes playing scum, this + frustration makes cheeky town. Try reading the posts leading up to NSG lynch, whoever hard opposed could be likely town. No way scum stopped that lynch, if scum knows their teammate is toast they bus them unless their partner has a powerful role.
Why didn't you tell me Dann changed his mind on Don? I don't know then, the above was partially based on his reads.
(Quotes cheeky's post about Nancy's list making me town)
Haha, I can obvtown as town even from outside the game xD
..(I mention the Dong wagon)
Dong's possibly scum, play around NSG looks bad.
Dann and Cheeky are locktown anyway.
Wouldn't clear scummy slots voting him because it could be a bus, scum is surely on his wagon if flips town though

Can you explain how the fuck Nancy's readlist makes any sense here? Dong is "possibly scum" but is townier than me where "VCA shows Molla town but less certain"?

[Auro]

I mean, I've read random tidbits of old games for funzies since I joined more than a year ago. And your own post I quoted showed that you know how to play scum on a fundamental level. You also said you fake AtE as scum; so ate from you isn't unfakeable as well.

Why must I believe you're town, apart from "my scum play is shit and therefore I'm town" when I don't think your posting here is spectacular anyway?

[CheekyTeeky]

Would you rather lynch Auro BB because we can probably CFD that towards EOD.

[Auro]

Cheeky can you promise to listen to my reads if I flip?

[CheekyTeeky]

Sure what are your reads when you flip?

[Auro]

Maybe Nancy meant it's towny but not enough to overtake Dong? "Less certain" prolly referred to the weight of vca in the read?

[Auro]

Sure what are your reads when you flip?

Dann locktown for one. Promise not to get paranoid.
And currently a lynch mostly in {BB/Gobbles}.
But I'll tell you my final solve before lynch and that's what you should sheep.

[CheekyTeeky]

You're not interested in getting Dann on side for a gobble lynch? You were pretty happy sheeping him and for some reason he townread both gobbles and BB.

[BBmolla]

Cheeky if Auro is town I’m just going to instavote Dong tomorrow

You confident that sequence leads to us winning?

How will you know Auro is town if we're lynching Dann? I'm still waiting on the Dong reasons from you.

those posts are two seperate thoughts

If you don't think Dong is scummy nothing I say will change your mind, I think their very being is scummy, I think their postcount being less than 3 dead players is scummy, I think people are giving them slack because they seem kind of derpy, they are the most consistent with "lurk till you say something to further your agenda" which I believe scumteams generally have, I hate their entrance to this game, I think the hammer was to get towncred cause they thought it would, I think they knew they weren't hammered and tried to fake a town response

I realize my activity has been shit this game, and i believe thats because i valued the quality of my posts. If you dont mind wading through the shit, this'll be much easier for me.

Over the last couple of pages my reads havent fully changed except kitty is now a confident tr as far as i see it - i havent been able to catch her in a contradiction or a hidden agenda yet.

I'll be focusing on some of formers posts.

bolded is scummy shit to hide fucking scum lurking, the robot posting in this seems scummy "beep boop for my next move, I'll be focusing on some of formers posts"

NSG interactions

these all mean stuff to me but I don't think they do to you

Could I be wrong? sure. But I mean then there is shit like this:

This in my eyes clears 5 people: Hopkirk, Former, Ceph, Kitty and BB.
BB and Former are obvious. If this was a lynch all scum game there might have been some wifom involved, but theres no point in opening up scum counterwagons in a white flag.
Cephrir hasnt been nearly active enough to take control of the discussion, a lurking strategy with your other scummate leading the charge theoretically should work but im not convinced based on his posts.
Kitty is, well, town. Besides that she was consistently posting in lower numbers with arguably more content than any single player which isnt good for controlling the pace of the game.
Hopkirk hasnt had a damn to give the game after d1s lynch, this could mean he tried to change the playstyle to suit the 2 scum playstyle but i think its probably a case for him being town, seeing as scum would want to be more front and center after that to lead lurker mislynches, while hopkirk just became a lurkee himself.

That leaves four people to be scum: Auro, myself, dann and cheeky.

This was days ago, all people within the scumlist are still alive and all the clears were the nightkills. And you can be like "they were universally townread" but for example Ceph wasn't, I fucking know I was thinking they were scum when they died and so was my whole team.

Every time Dong does something weird, like including themselves on their own scumlist, there is Auro talking about it

That leaves four people to be scum: Auro, myself, dann and cheeky.

@Dann: Scum!Dong's plan is what here exactly?

Also while I'm back here

Dann same question

Probably:

Dong > gobble > either Hop or BBmolla; I am undecided and waiting for team input

Hop has gone up in towniness for me but I want to double check I'm not town reading things I shouldn't be

I'm pretty confident in [FF, Cheeky, Auro, Cephrir] being all town

Dann what the fuck happened?

[Auro]

You must have noticed I'm asking him continuously why Molla is town and Molla-Gob can't be a pair?

[BBmolla]

Would you rather lynch Auro BB because we can probably CFD that towards EOD.

What is CFD