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Post Post #4500 (ISO) » Thu Feb 13, 2020 9:02 pm

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No, I haven't agreed. That's far from optimal. That's a plan I can work with to maximize town win% taking into account your play. It's by no means the optimal lynch path. Optimal lynch path right now is always Gobbles -> FF/Dong or something like that.
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Post Post #4501 (ISO) » Thu Feb 13, 2020 9:03 pm

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You tell me I've talked about literally everyone today.
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Post Post #4502 (ISO) » Thu Feb 13, 2020 9:03 pm

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In post 4496, Auro wrote:Are you a college student, Dann?
Yeah, why?
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Post Post #4503 (ISO) » Thu Feb 13, 2020 9:04 pm

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Ok Auro focus on casing gobbles then to get people on side ffs and stop arguing with me.
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Post Post #4504 (ISO) » Thu Feb 13, 2020 9:04 pm

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Was just curious
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Post Post #4505 (ISO) » Thu Feb 13, 2020 9:04 pm

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Gobbles > Dong is always better than

Gobbles > FF
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Post Post #4506 (ISO) » Thu Feb 13, 2020 9:06 pm

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Dong is only partners with FF or gobbles omg it's like banging my head against a wall.
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Post Post #4507 (ISO) » Thu Feb 13, 2020 9:07 pm

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The sooner you guys lynch dann the sooner this spam fest ends btw.
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Post Post #4508 (ISO) » Thu Feb 13, 2020 9:07 pm

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FF can only be partners with Dong or Gobble

and Dong is scummier than FF
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Post Post #4509 (ISO) » Thu Feb 13, 2020 9:07 pm

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I need to stop replying to Cheeky
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Post Post #4510 (ISO) » Thu Feb 13, 2020 9:08 pm

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@Auro, Ank said she just woke up and has to go to work. So it'll probably be a while for anything from her
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Post Post #4511 (ISO) » Thu Feb 13, 2020 9:09 pm

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In post 4507, CheekyTeeky wrote:The sooner you guys lynch dann the sooner this spam fest ends btw.
In post 4498, CheekyTeeky wrote:I've been pretty clear that Dann > gobbles is the optimal lynch path to end the game and Auro even agreed so I dont know why you guys are running around like headless crooks deviating yet again from Dann actually having some solid input today. Stop using me as a distraction Dann and do some work on BB.
:lol:

It's stuff like this that makes me want to believe Cheeky is in fact scum
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Post Post #4512 (ISO) » Thu Feb 13, 2020 9:09 pm

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Yet FF can be partners with Auro so obviously FF is better than Dong.
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Post Post #4513 (ISO) » Thu Feb 13, 2020 9:10 pm

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Auro is an IC
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Post Post #4514 (ISO) » Thu Feb 13, 2020 9:11 pm

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Ok let's just lynch Auro like wtf are you actually doing except stirring shit at this point?
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Post Post #4515 (ISO) » Thu Feb 13, 2020 9:11 pm

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Cool with my lynch, except then Dann IC.
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Post Post #4516 (ISO) » Thu Feb 13, 2020 9:12 pm

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Cool, you're easier to lynch anyway.
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Post Post #4517 (ISO) » Thu Feb 13, 2020 9:15 pm

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In post 4510, Dannflor wrote:@Auro, Ank said she just woke up and has to go to work. So it'll probably be a while for anything from her
Looking forward to this, it's fine if she's unable to though. I don't know if more effort is really worth it at this point.
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Post Post #4518 (ISO) » Thu Feb 13, 2020 9:15 pm

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dear god cheeky
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Post Post #4519 (ISO) » Thu Feb 13, 2020 9:17 pm

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Ignore her @Dann
If I'm lynched then I was a moron in retrospect, you have more possible teams in LyLo therefore you're lynched

We lose the game. Rn we can just solve for vanity though
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Post Post #4520 (ISO) » Thu Feb 13, 2020 9:18 pm

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In post 1532, gobbledygook wrote:To take a page from NSG and RC, kill the non-bussers first

VOTE: Cheeky
I kinda felt then that Gobbles was coached towards this.
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Post Post #4521 (ISO) » Thu Feb 13, 2020 9:26 pm

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In post 3468, gobbledygook wrote:Ok, Auro. I think I have read enough of Cheeky's scum games. The most recent completed scum game she has is Micromence Vengeful where Cheeky's team turbolynched me Day 1. I did not feel much emotion in her posting in that game other than an off hand comment of "make sense or die" to pisskop (one of her buddies).

Other than that game, Cheeky has not recently been scum. At least, that I found. There may be alt or hydra games that I have missed.

Overkill 2 is probably the closest I could find to a game that matches her playstyle this game. However, I don't think anything in that game reaches the level of emotion that I am seeing here. Post 2048 comes close to the type of attitude we see in this game, but the sheer volume of emotional posting from Cheeky in this game distinguishes her play here from her play in Overkill 2.

Gunner Mafia might be a good game to look at too. I do not think she's reached the same level of emotion, but she does have more "emotional" posts with using caps locks and repetition. Looking through all of these games, I feel like Cheeky as scum doesn't get upset because she knows the townies are just doing their jobs.

Everything is Completely Normal is the next closest game I could find, emotionally. Cheeky is slightly aggressive to Nero Cain in this game, but again, not to the level we have seen in this game. Cheeky was lynched Day 1 in this game too, so I would think that she would be particularly emotional. It does not appear so, even as you look at the end of her iso.

Then we have Pop Goes the Guns and Mini Normal 2002, but I do not think she is emotional at all in those games.

Finding these games (Cheeky you're like never scum) and reading them took a lot longer than I would like to admit. Plus, I kept getting distracted by shiny things.

At any rate, I am about to have another completed game to add to my collection for you to look through, Auro. I'll let you know once it is official.

These are some of my town games that I think are pretty exemplary of how bad my play can be. Black Versus Whiteis probably the worst, followed by Menalque's Favorite Places. That said, I think Added to the Group Chat and Zen show similar frustrations with the game/players that I had on Day 1 in this game. Finally, the Search I think is a good example of how I wall flower from time to time when I have little grasp on the game.

This meta dive I did on Cheeky only reinforced that I probably do not want to lynch her this game. If she is scum, she is playing really well and honestly deserves the win. Also, it is really annoying that sometimes direct links to a person's iso does not work. I feel technologically illiterate when sometimes I can make the link work, but then other times I cannot figure out why the link is not working.
Maybe I'm conf-biasing with this but it seems pretty obvious from my perspective that this post was designed to pocket Cheeky since she started death-tunneling me/you
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Post Post #4522 (ISO) » Thu Feb 13, 2020 9:27 pm

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Oh yeah I was going to point out that the effort made into that meta read is wayyyyyyyyyyy off from his reads on you/me
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Post Post #4523 (ISO) » Thu Feb 13, 2020 9:28 pm

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Like, if he's going to do that, why doesn't he put the same effort into... literally any other slot in the game?

There was a clear reason he decided to put that much effort into Cheeky
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Post Post #4524 (ISO) » Thu Feb 13, 2020 9:29 pm

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okay ank has some input now actually I'll paraphrase in a sec

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