Open 771: Pollock's Flag [endgame!]

[Uncrowned]

So I'll ask again, but in a different way: Why are Amrun and Rooroo preferential lynches compared to TSH?

[Pink Ball]

I agree with Hectic's point of view, but I'd rather lynch scum for the confidence boost rather than a townread

[AaronFrost]

Apologies for the inactivity, been stressed because of university and was not having a good mental health day yesterday. I'll be around later tonight.

[Hectic]

Apologies for the inactivity, been stressed because of university and was not having a good mental health day yesterday. I'll be around later tonight.

Sending <3 your way.

[Hectic]

Looking for jester stuff in TrueSoulHustler's ISO:

Let’s start off with 3 names we’d be willing to vote.
Since there’s 1 Mafia where if we lynch them we auto win.
I’ll start. Rb, Rooroo and Cat Scratch Fever.

Lol I just took the 4th players.
But I’ll go ahead and make some real ones when everyone’s checked in and gave enough content.

-TSE

This feels like a jestery entrance. Very attention seeking in how he picked 3 names that weren't even random because he took every 4th player. I immediately pointed it out as slightly scummy.

I'll just let everyone get in and get acquainted; it's too early to just be rushing in

villagery
-mm

Hot Take™

but using "villagery" instead of "towny" is actually jester-indicative if mm doesn't normally used that terminology. Reason being it's just a slightly weirder way of calling a post town. It's not scummy, but intentionally going out of the way to use different terminology is actually jester-indicative. I don't know mm's real account; someone provide please.

wait

there's hydras in this game

Yes, but I'm not a hydra to be clear

TrueSoulHustler is the only hydra in this game

He’s my partner in crime.
If yos mafia, yos better watch out!

-TSE

Initially townread this post because of how ridiculously LAMIST it was, but coming from the angle that he's jester messing around also makes sense.

So I see we're still in RVS.

{Creature | Amrun | Uncrowned} - the cool kids table
{rooroo | AaronFrost | rb} - the kids who take band table
{Pink Ball | Cat Scratch Fever} - Regina George's table
{Blatant Scum | Hectic | TrueSoulHustler} - the buffet table oink

Do you think the scum is within these categories.
As in 1 from each row leaving out one row as there is 3 mafia and not 4.
?

-TSE

In case I didn’t explain myself properly as I have poor communication skills and MM has good communication (one of the reasons I Hydra with them) I’m now going to give you an example of what I mean.

So do you believe the scum team could be like, Amrun, PinkBall and Hectic.
But never rooroo, AaronFrost and Rb?

-TSE

And then we come to these two posts. This when I started properly scumreading him for trying to scumhunt/draw conclusions from an obviously joke post. And not only that, drawing conclusions in a very strange way. Like, there's 4 categories there and the first thing he concludes is that Looker's placing scum in all but one category? Why not scum all consisting in one category? They were all 3-person groups other than one. It's all very strange, and this type of strangeness is more jestery than scummy, I think. I'm sure TSE isn't this bad at fake scumhunting as scum, right?

[Hectic]

I didn’t catch the “Grey” part but it still looks like possible theatre.
Although for now, I’ll ignore it.

-TSE

Grey part?

[Cat Scratch Fever]

I’m busy today but amrun and uncrowned’s recent posts have been better. I think I prefer voting TSH

Best way to work out flag color is probably through preflip VCA, but that requires making many assumptions. there’s been enough resistance around the TSH wagon that I don’t think it’s necessarily going to flip black flag, Hectic. His lynch will also provide the most info imo.

[Hectic]

More jester stuff:

Spoiler:

If your going to pressure me and vote me because of a thought I had.
Then fine.
But don’t think of it as an instantly scummy post.
You can say “I don’t like that”
But vote me because of a simple thought process isn’t right.

-TSE

Huh?
But you didn’t even play if it’s scummy or not.
And WDYM Merit a Vote?
I haven’t voted anyone.
Are you saying that for someone not liking a thought I had and voting me is a good thing?
Maybe to get a clear read on me or get reaction sure.
But to scum read someone for it isn’t right, and you even said it’s early game and low content.
So you just straight out put a vote on me?
Seems to me like your just being opportunistic.

VOTE: Amrun

-TSE

I think TSE knows how mafia works to not make these posts as non-jester. It's such a stupid issue to focus on that draws attention to yourself.

I will just let everyone get in and get acquainted; it's too early to just be rushing in.

I'll just let everyone get in and get acquainted; it's too early to just be rushing in

Hot Take: Planned Via Scum Chat?

Planned via scum chat to say that exact same thing, in what way does this help scum? Another ridiculous take which is more jestery than anything.

Let's do something

VOTE: Blatant Scum

Starting with the guy who could have moved his vote already but didn't

Well technically I could have too.
But I get your vote there.

Pointing out something he did could be scummy. This is a pretty good one.

okay

VOTE: TSH

choo choo more TSH votes

Not attempting to really defend himself. He doesn't really care about being lynched.

So TSH is black flag, rb grey flag and clidd white flag, got it

fool i scumread clidd and id push them if tse agreed with me and im just as much at odds with rb as you cmon
-mm

Specifically refutes a point that suggests they're the Black Flag.

No one hammer me before AF comes on.
I don’t want to be miss lynched without AF answering my questions.
I need AF to answer my question.

-TSE

Seems he's resigned himself to being lynched with the "No one hammer me before AF comes on." Has no fight in him, doesn't want to actually survive.

Also, I have new flag for jester hunting, do you guys like it?

[Hectic]

Anyway I’m Town.
Shouldn’t be a surprise.

-TSE

You know who’s probably the black flag though.
Or maybe even the white.

Spoiler:

Amrun

-TSE

He got lazy here, think he's achieved the lynch on him. Just calliing himself town, not really trying to push Amrun seriously anymore. Doesn't even seem mad. And then considers Amrun a Black or White Flag, and not a Grey specifically. Lul, what kind of conclusion is that? I'm feeling good about this being Black Flag.

[Cat Scratch Fever]

Doesn’t TSH always say weird things that attract attention to himself? That’s the general impression I have of him.

[Hectic]

I’m busy today but amrun and uncrowned’s recent posts have been better. I think I prefer voting TSH

Best way to work out flag color is probably through preflip VCA, but that requires making many assumptions. there’s been enough resistance around the TSH wagon that I don’t think it’s necessarily going to flip black flag, Hectic. His lynch will also provide the most info imo.

TrueSoulHustler never even had any interest in voting their counterwagon (rooroo). He's been on a vanity wagon on Amrun which he hasn't seriously tried to push the entire game. I say we leave him alive for now and treat him as psuedo-confirmed scum that is most likely Black Flag. We lynch him if we haven't lynched scum by Lylo, or a day before Lylo.

[Cat Scratch Fever]

Anyway I’m Town.
Shouldn’t be a surprise.

-TSE

You know who’s probably the black flag though.
Or maybe even the white.

Spoiler:

Amrun

-TSE

He got lazy here, think he's achieved the lynch on him. Just calliing himself town, not really trying to push Amrun seriously anymore. Doesn't even seem mad. And then considers Amrun a Black or White Flag, and not a Grey specifically. Lul, what kind of conclusion is that? I'm feeling good about this being Black Flag.

TSH knew he hadn’t been hammered yet there. he knew clidd was already voting him.

[Hectic]

Doesn’t TSH always say weird things that attract attention to himself? That’s the general impression I have of him.

Nowhere near the extent of this from what I've seen. Issue now is finding next most likely scum.

[Hectic]

Anyway I’m Town.
Shouldn’t be a surprise.

-TSE

You know who’s probably the black flag though.
Or maybe even the white.

Spoiler:

Amrun

-TSE

He got lazy here, think he's achieved the lynch on him. Just calliing himself town, not really trying to push Amrun seriously anymore. Doesn't even seem mad. And then considers Amrun a Black or White Flag, and not a Grey specifically. Lul, what kind of conclusion is that? I'm feeling good about this being Black Flag.

TSH knew he hadn’t been hammered yet there. he knew clidd was already voting him.

I know. By "lazy" I mean he feels like he's enjoying this. Town or scum would be survivalistic in this game state or a lot more frustrated. Instead, he makes the semi-joke push post on Amrun which he knows by now has no chance of succeeding.

[Cat Scratch Fever]

Where else would you look if not TSH?

[Hectic]

As the black flag mafia.
I have no such Fears.
But I'm inclined to wonder.
Why the townspeople are so confident that TSH is not the Black flag mafia.
Lynching a very widely scumread top poster.
Who could almost deterministically be getting himself lynched.
By a combination of not writing very readable posts and brute force.
On day 1.
Seems like a questionable course of action lol.
Perhaps we should instead be lynching Nullscums with antitown behavior.
Such as myself.

This post alone probably makes rooroo town if TSH is Black Flag.

I think Bla/Creature are both good nullscum lynches, sucks for information, but decent for sniping scum. Amrun for her tone this game. (I'm trying not to think about what TrueSoulHustler pushing Amrun means if he's Black Flag - I think he could choose scum or town as his shitpush, and I'm not sure which he's more likely to choose).

[Hectic]

R.I.P. Pink Ball's tonal reading.

This is the only town post Bla made. Since then he's kinda just done... nothing. Worth noting that his CL-meta is nothing like this though lol

[Hectic]

What do you think, Cat Scratch Fever?

[Cat Scratch Fever]

What’s CL-meta?

It does bother me that several people voting for TSH haven’t mentioned anything about what they think his flag color is. It matters a lot. Winning 10:3 white flag is already difficult, trying to win 10:3 mountainous I don’t really even want to think about it.

[Hectic]

What’s CL-meta?

It does bother me that several people voting for TSH haven’t mentioned anything about what they think his flag color is. It matters a lot. Winning 10:3 white flag is already difficult, trying to win 10:3 mountainous I don’t really even want to think about it.

Cult leader-meta. And yeah, exactly, I really don't think TrueSoulHustler is the right option today.

[Cat Scratch Fever]

I can take a look at his scumgames in an hour.

I don’t feel a BS or Sky lynch because if we mislynch, we’ll be at the same place tomorrow.

[Hectic]

I can take a look at his scumgames in an hour.

I don’t feel a BS or Sky lynch because if we mislynch, we’ll be at the same place tomorrow.

Cool, that'd be helpful.

btw

VOTE: TSH

btw

VOTE: TSH

How likely do you think he's the Black Flag?

I think I'm okay with voting Skygazer based on her ignoring this question and going offline, despite it coming less than a minute after her post. I mean, yeah, that might've just been when she decided to go offline. But I think if TrueSoulHustler is Black Flag, that is the worst question for scum to be asked right now, so the possibility of her ignoring it is scum-indicative.

VOTE: Skygazer

[TrueSoulHustler]

VOTE: Amrun

VOTE: Amrun

[TrueSoulHustler]

More jester stuff:

Spoiler:

If your going to pressure me and vote me because of a thought I had.
Then fine.
But don’t think of it as an instantly scummy post.
You can say “I don’t like that”
But vote me because of a simple thought process isn’t right.

-TSE

Huh?
But you didn’t even play if it’s scummy or not.
And WDYM Merit a Vote?
I haven’t voted anyone.
Are you saying that for someone not liking a thought I had and voting me is a good thing?
Maybe to get a clear read on me or get reaction sure.
But to scum read someone for it isn’t right, and you even said it’s early game and low content.
So you just straight out put a vote on me?
Seems to me like your just being opportunistic.

VOTE: Amrun

-TSE

I think TSE knows how mafia works to not make these posts as non-jester. It's such a stupid issue to focus on that draws attention to yourself.

I will just let everyone get in and get acquainted; it's too early to just be rushing in.

I'll just let everyone get in and get acquainted; it's too early to just be rushing in

Hot Take: Planned Via Scum Chat?

Planned via scum chat to say that exact same thing, in what way does this help scum? Another ridiculous take which is more jestery than anything.

Let's do something

VOTE: Blatant Scum

Starting with the guy who could have moved his vote already but didn't

Well technically I could have too.
But I get your vote there.

Pointing out something he did could be scummy. This is a pretty good one.

okay

VOTE: TSH

choo choo more TSH votes

Not attempting to really defend himself. He doesn't really care about being lynched.

So TSH is black flag, rb grey flag and clidd white flag, got it

fool i scumread clidd and id push them if tse agreed with me and im just as much at odds with rb as you cmon
-mm

Specifically refutes a point that suggests they're the Black Flag.

No one hammer me before AF comes on.
I don’t want to be miss lynched without AF answering my questions.
I need AF to answer my question.

-TSE

Seems he's resigned himself to being lynched with the "No one hammer me before AF comes on." Has no fight in him, doesn't want to actually survive.

Also, I have new flag for jester hunting, do you guys like it?

I disagree.
Not all of that was Jester stuff SMH.

[TrueSoulHustler]

VOTE: TSH

This is

L-1.

Oh shit.
Didn’t see that vote.