Mini Normal 2119 [game over]

[the worst]

vote count 2.01

AaronFrost (2) - Looker, Iconeum
emps (1) - Datisi

not voting: Menalque, bji, AaronFrost, wilky, emps, Tchill13, Pine, bob3141

with 11 alive it takes 6 to lynch

This phase ends in (expired on 2020-02-27 13:35:00).


mod notes: seeking a new Wilky
reminder to please submit further replacement requests via PM - try and avoid discussing replacements in the thread
quack

[the worst]

Slaxx replaces wilky.

[the worst]

vote count 2.02

AaronFrost (2) - Looker, Iconeum
emps (1) - Datisi

not voting: Menalque, bji, AaronFrost, Slaxx, emps, Tchill13, Pine, bob3141

with 11 alive it takes 6 to lynch

This phase ends in (expired on 2020-02-27 13:35:00).


mod notes: quack

[Slaxx]

I only joined this game because I owed TW a favor and it was either this or my family heirlooms.

Catching up now.


HI PINE.

[Slaxx]

3 scum out of 13? 7 to lynch?

This supposed to be a townslip?

Lotta shitposting early game but this is quality

[Slaxx]

Menal's early push and digging on the CJ/Chem slot make it unlikely he is scum. Also makes it nearly impossible scumteam would be TChill, Menal, Chem.

[Slaxx]

I'm currently at the part of the thread where everyone is telling each other to get fucked, good read so far.

[Slaxx]

Not super fond of Ico;s interaction with the scum flip here:

"your complete lack of interest/lack of response to any of the AI stuff that happened is pinging me

like, not full red flag on a bull pinging, but more an orange warning signal that i'm about to run out of gas kinda pinging"

Feels like a little bit of forced over-explaining maybe

[Slaxx]

Eh they followed it up pretty quickly with a vote maybe not

Sorry, I am mainly combing for unlikely teams and interactions with one flip. Things I don't think I can retroactively explain once I am done are going here in what is now my stream of conscious

[Slaxx]

Dat's mindmeld with flipped town in 732/733 is a good look for him now

[Slaxx]

I think GL's 770 sums up why Looker probably isnt scum with this red flip.

[Slaxx]

Emps p32 around the bugs wagon is hella ugly with the red flip

[Slaxx]

Along with GL's monologue about how bad Emps looks, along with #907, no bueno right now on that slot

[Slaxx]

Yo I’m kind of here now

I don’t think chem flips scum at this point because there’s we’ve been stalling out in that direction for days and I would expect his partners to be doing something, even if that something was hard bussing, rather than just letting the lynch default there while not even getting credit — the corollary to this and also scummy given the reaction to chem repping in is if chem is scum that scum were on super early (icon, GL, bji) at a glance, and so were gonna get credit without needing to push later

I think that the reaction from bob in particular and also but less so from icon/looker is concerning in that there seems to be a late push to make sure that chem gets flipped which makes me think of scum worried they’re losing their D1 mislynch — which is, let’s not forget, fundamentally a lurker lynch — due to a player repping in who may actually obvtown. Which means that continuing to push the lynch later would look really bad or would mean having to give up on lynching a slot they did a bunch of groundwork on

Maybe this is because one of his partner was doing that and the other was MIA...

[Slaxx]

Ico looking very clean on the commitment to Bugs/Chem wagon with two viable counters

[Slaxx]

VOTE: Emps

I would prefer Emps today, as I think Aaron's claim might be legit. If I am wrong, blame setup spec.

[Slaxx]

Pretty sure the solve is just Emps and Pine. Granted I haven't played with Pine for like 5 years but he is a chronic lurkers as scum from what I remember. He should really be replaced, I am kind of disappointed he isnt around.

It would explain a lot about why Men felt the wagon wasn't going anywhere. 1 scum was pushing the counterwagon and the other was just not going anywhere. I probably also would have investigated Emps if I were Aaron...so, I get it.

[Datisi]

Oh cool.

Since we have mislynches to spare, I don't think lynching the claimed Cop is optimal anyway. Either they die at Night or get lynched tomorrow - if they're Town we get to use a result, provided they're not RBed again.

[Looker]

VOTE: tchill13

• It's too much WIFOM surrounding AF - do we kill him even if he's town for strategy? I think we need to pick a target, and, if he flips green (Aaron), we'll at least know one role. It can be settled in a little bit. I personally want to kill him for shitty wagoning, though (This could be bias).
  
• I don't like Menalque's 1114, but he voted Chemist, so whatever
  
• I don't know why Pine is still in this game

[Slaxx]

tchill didn't know who he replaced when he got in and called his own slot scummy

I mean, maybe he did that on purpose but like

No, I dont think so?

Looker: why not Emp?

[Slaxx]

I don't want to get super cocky, and obviously my slot wasn't the town leader, but I think we are overcomplicating this.

We have a dead VT who suspected a guy
That guy has hella bad associations with a flipped scum
???
Profit

[Looker]

It would be hellishly unwise for me to trust you when I scumread Wilky

[Datisi]

I don't think you have to trust him specifically. Just look at emps yourself and tell me how that slot lives through today.

[Slaxx]

It would be hellishly unwise for me to trust you when I scumread Wilky

Fair enough but that doesn’t change Emp’s ISO.

[Looker]

see if you can convince bji