In post 355, clidd wrote:What I saw in your interaction with Ame was a possible approach to a death tunnel, which did not materialize due to external interaction. Evidently, considering that you're scum. In the town!Ico scenario, I believe that post 27 would become an assimilation with an individual experience, which was not well worked out, but provided an initial horizon to develop a premature dialogue between both. I still think about both possibilities, but I'm considering scum!Ico trying to architect something here.
I will straight up disregard all reason if you have a PR dream again. You can come back and be like, “I dreamt that Locke is a N2 Bulletproof Multitasking Cop and Self-Targeting Doctor,” and I will go, “Okay, Locke kill it is then.”
In post 355, clidd wrote:What I saw in your interaction with Ame was a possible approach to a death tunnel, which did not materialize due to external interaction. Evidently, considering that you're scum. In the town!Ico scenario, I believe that post 27 would become an assimilation with an individual experience, which was not well worked out, but provided an initial horizon to develop a premature dialogue between both. I still think about both possibilities, but I'm considering scum!Ico trying to architect something here.
In post 355, clidd wrote:What I saw in your interaction with Ame was a possible approach to a death tunnel, which did not materialize due to external interaction. Evidently, considering that you're scum. In the town!Ico scenario, I believe that post 27 would become an assimilation with an individual experience, which was not well worked out, but provided an initial horizon to develop a premature dialogue between both. I still think about both possibilities, but I'm considering scum!Ico trying to architect something here.
In post 355, clidd wrote:What I saw in your interaction with Ame was a possible approach to a death tunnel, which did not materialize due to external interaction. Evidently, considering that you're scum. In the town!Ico scenario, I believe that post 27 would become an assimilation with an individual experience, which was not well worked out, but provided an initial horizon to develop a premature dialogue between both. I still think about both possibilities, but I'm considering scum!Ico trying to architect something here.
Slight SR's on Profii and Mr Frost, as of the start of page 4.
In post 167, Luca Blight wrote:I disagree with Alch that 57 bleeds Town - I could easily see self-correction coming from scum who worry about leaving themselves open to attack.
That reminds me though that while I agree with Frost's 75, I got a scum ping because he basically just repeated what Insomnia said in his 'correction' post.
In post 168, Luca Blight wrote:I like and agree with Ame's 103. It sums up a lot of my own thoughts towards Profii at this point.
Spoiler: Case 2
Case 2: Enters yet again with a scumread. Is interrogating/solving from the get-go. Examples (his first 3 posts):
I dislike the RVS questions - they are unrelated to the game and therefore pointless, apart from question 3 which feels like role-fishing.
In post 24, Luca Blight wrote:I’m not trying to police your play - it’s called advancing the game. During RVS something has to act as the catalyst to move the game from meaningless to meaningful, and one way of doing that is by zoning in on things in order to create talking points.
That said, I am sincere in my view and have you as a slight scum read as things stand.
I agree that both George and TSE look scummy at the moment. The former for putting effort into answering the RVS questions and building rapport, and the latter for his ‘claim’.
VOTE: TSE
Spoiler: Case 3
Case 3: Once again, the same trend. Just look at his first four posts. The only exception here is this [ur=viewtopic.php?p=11512725#p11512725l]post[/url], which actually appears amiable and friendly, but I am willing to write this off as an anomaly since the content is not related to players or play in-game.
So, from those civilian games, we have established that Knight Luca as a civilian is:
Vocal about lawbreaker-reads from the get-go
Interrogative and solves immediately
Not someone who has time for pleasantries, and doesn't go out of his way to be friendly
In post 28, Natsu wrote:Oh boy. At first I was going to complain about the SE's not setting Hectic straight for his trash tier posting. But then I realized he was an SE, even though he says he's quite new. Then again in my last game the SE's were the ones making all the questionable moves.
Do people typically get worse at mafia the more they play?
This is actually an interesting question. I think in terms of many things in life, this ends up being the case. Take, for example, driving: When you've just passed your test you are still very cautious and drive in the correct posture, mirror signal manouvre etc. Soon, however, bad habits start creeping in, and if you took the same test a few years later you most probably wouldn't pass. I think the same applies to Mafia.
I'm quite new, so is it okay if I lurk this game and try to learn from the more experienced people? Also, should we mass claim? It could be useful to talk about who we target in the night. I will start: I am the Town Goon. I am not allowed to target anyone in the night.
VOTE: 72offsuit
This is somehow worse than the first post of a person in my last game, which got her massively scumread and lynch-mobbed. You are playing a complete fool on purpose here. I'm guessing you are trying to get an actual vanilla townie newb to be like "hey, it shouldn't say town goon!" and then vote for you because you look like a terrible scum player who just tipped their hand. So I guess I'll go ahead and grant you your wish and vote for you because it's not supposed to say town goon. VOTE: Hectic
After reading further I find that Hectic actually has thousands of hours of mafia gametime. But I'll keep my vote here to see where he's taking us with this style of posting.
This is a decent thought-process. You have earned a Townie point, well done.
Engages with Natsu in a friendly way (thought it's worth noting he was his lawbreaker buddy), but more importantly gives him a "Townie" point.
In post 56, dsjstr wrote:I just want to point out that DP and Hectic are probably the best two players in here XD
You do yourself a disservice, dsj!
Tries to pocket Dsj. Easy-going and friendly.
Those are his first four posts. There's no solving or lawbreakerreads which is a stark comparison to his civilianplay, but more importantly, his lawbreaker game seem to be more friendly/pockety in tone.
Now, let's examine this game here that we're playing right before our very eyes.
Spoiler: Case 77
Case 77:
The case is not as cut as dry as we'd hope, but I still believe this adheres to his lawbreaker play over his civilian play.
It's a funny story, actually. In the process of joining this site I typed 'Luca Blight' into the username box, and the rest is history.
2.
Why is Compath so townie?
- I'm wondering the same thing?
3.
When is the last time you had a strawberry?
- Just before new year.
4.
Which of these would you prefer to spend your time doing this weekend (order from most preferred to least): playing mafia, attending a concert, attending a sports game, watching a new episode of your favorite show.
Attending a sports game, attending a concert, playing Mafia, watching a new episode of my favourite show,
5.
On a scale of 0 to 10, how upset would you be if we lynched you today?
- 8
6.
If Hectic has 5 strawberries and DrDolittle has 2, how many does Luca have?
I'd rather keep this secret, given there are strawberry thieves among us.
7.
Imagine that you are scum this game: would it be true or false that you are scum?
True.
Your turn, Ame.
He answers Ame's RQS; which is strange, given we've seen from meta that he has a strong dislike for RQS. He answered this one unprovoked.
Then he actually proceeds to solve from 129 to 136. Solving early is not what we're focusing on though. We're focusing on his amiability and the next couple of posts:
There it is. The easy-going and friendly tone early on that he displayed in his one lawbreaker game, and in none of his civilian games.
It's always difficult to explain tonal lawbreaker-reads, but The Force has tried to do so as best we can here. It's also not just the entrance, but throughout the game in terms of how he's less blunt/more willing to consider things from a towny viewpoint. Examples would be these two posts here, which is actually what first pinged me to go digging:
Spoiler: More Evidence
In post 316, Luca Blight wrote:It seems a little odd how I ask you a question about Slaxx and you turn the attention onto Clidd lol
Why aren’t you voting Clidd?
Describing something he finds lawbreakery as "a little odd" rather than outright saying he finds it lawbreakery.
In post 359, Luca Blight wrote:‘Dislike’ as in you’re scumreading me for it, or simply think I’m wrong to do so?
I’ve never said I believe Clidd will always replace out as scum btw. I feel as though he’d be more disinterested as scum, however.
His response to trainee "trainee" trainee feels neutral. He's trying to clear up her suspicion of him, rather than doubting her alignment for such a read.
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That will be all for now. We advocate votes to imprison Dark Knight Luca.
Well, I believe that the differences in quality of playerlists are not significant to invalidate the read, so I won't comment it. Until now, I was relying on the fact that he used information about me transparently, something that I would not hesitate to associate with
town!Luca
. However, with these comparisons,
Hectic
, the problem is that you are assuming that he would follow the same
scum
line of reasoning as the game in which both of you participated together. Could you explain why he did not avoid using the same neutral method, considering that you are here too, and could, evidently, unmask him ?
In post 386, Slaxx wrote:Kanna the issue I have with Luca-scum is at the time, Clidd and I were both fairly vulnerable in our positions. He seemed to arbitrate and intervene early into our 1v1 spat. If we are both town, and Luca is scum, what motivation does he have to do that?
not sure which part you're talking about. can you quote the a bit or something?
In post 387, Slaxx wrote:I still get the vibe Ame believes what she’s saying. Now, what’s up for debate is how much they are applying it to move the game forward. Obviously it’s easy to tell the truth as mafia if you talk about non-game related things.
I think, though, that there is enough “this-game” content wrapped up in that analysis to not give me much pause on sustaining a town read.
In post 390, Hectic wrote:trainee "trainee" trainee will step in for Officer "Officer" Officer!
Kanna:
>see slaxx' takes
>hey, i agree with Icon being towny for that push, and Compath's 8 and 9 do feel like filler (which can be a good scumtell), DDL i disagree with but whatever
>like these takes overall
>see you say you're getting bad vibes
>recheck his posts
>realise that the Icon and Compath takes aren't difficult or nuanced ones to make and so feel somewhat forced
>see his "die on this hill" post which feels a little over the top stubborn
>reply to you about these things
now if you'll
excuse
me, i'm getting back to watching Knives Out
So you're saying you just changed your opinion between those 2 posts? sighhh I might believe you
He's contradicting himself as well as shading others. He backs off too easily as well.
When questioned he either dodges the question, or answers the question in a way where it seems like he answers the question but the answer doesn't actually have any real substance.
Plus, his posts have a forced formal tone to them, and they seem hard to read on purpose.
With 9 votes in play, it takes 5 to lynch.
