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[Datisi]

If the roleblocker is scum, no.

[Datisi]

Page 100 pagetop yeet
Okay I'm gonna go get coffee now brb

[Micc]

Reconsidered. Slaxx can easily be Town and that makes the Roleblocker you found to be scum. Highly doubt both are Town.

Bji: a strongman doesn’t stop Aaron from getting a result night 1. So of the two things that could prevent a slaxx rolestop from protecting Aaron, a RB is much more likely than strongman. At least until icon brought to light how much power is hanging around.

[Datisi]

I'm a combined tracker follower*/watcher.

I saw aaron perform a role investigative action on N1 on emps.

I saw a player (that is not slaxx) perform a roleblocking type of action on N2 on a player (that is not slaxx)

Wait, I'm slow
If you saw Aaron perform an action on N1
Does that mean he couldn't have been Roleblocked?

[bji]

Ico, if you're a tracker/watcher, then how do you know WHAT action was performed? My reading of the wiki says you should know only that targeting was done, not what the action was.

From the wiki:

"The Tracker learns who a player targeted, but not what action that player performed."
"The Watcher learns who targeted a player, but not what actions were performed on them."

[bji]

I swear this game makes less sense every time someone adds to the claim pile.

[Datisi]

He corrected himself into a follower

[Micc]

does anyone believe that scum nightkill aaron and then NOT roleblock me? or slaxx if he's town?

I haven’t found a reason. It would make sense for scum to block town slaxx as a way to get the cop dead. But you having someone not slaxx being Roleblocked means that not what happened. And two town blocking powers is ??? So points to slaxx scum?

[Micc]

I'm a combined tracker follower*/watcher.

I saw aaron perform a role investigative action on N1 on emps.

I saw a player (that is not slaxx) perform a roleblocking type of action on N2 on a player (that is not slaxx)

Wait, I'm slow
If you saw Aaron perform an action on N1
Does that mean he couldn't have been Roleblocked?

Yeah this doesn’t add up either...

[Datisi]

Furthermore, did you see anyone visiting Aaron on N1?

[bji]

Reconsidered. Slaxx can easily be Town and that makes the Roleblocker you found to be scum. Highly doubt both are Town.

Bji: a strongman doesn’t stop Aaron from getting a result night 1. So of the two things that could prevent a slaxx rolestop from protecting Aaron, a RB is much more likely than strongman. At least until icon brought to light how much power is hanging around.

Who ever said that a strongman would stop Aaron from getting a result night 1?

Neither would a scum roleblocker stop Aaron from getting a result night 1, if Ico is to be believed.

I was holding off on this to see how your attempt at getting Ico to claim panned out:

Ah yeah, sorry. I usually call him Mist since I think i read somewhere he prefers that nickname.

What's your opinion on the whole roleblocker/rolestopper mumbo jumbo?

There’s not much help coming from that bit of mumbo jumbo besides making slaxx likely to be Town. Have to assume Roleblocker and not strongman to account for Aaron’s no result N1. Roleblock and nightkill is an action for both scum. Ruling out multitasking as too much scum power it follows that anyone not visiting N2 is town.

I think it’s time for icon to full claim. 1. Because he’s presumably held in check by the Rb until he dies and 2. If he’s got information that someone didn’t act on N2, that person is very likely town.

Ico said that Aaron was not roleblocked on N1 which implies that when you say here that there must be a roleblocker and not strongman, you are essentially saying that Ico is lying.

I thought that was why you were so interested in seeing Ico's claim because maybe you had refuting evidence.

[Micc]

Well, it kinda looks like icon

is

lying right now. But icon rolled back his claim that Aaron wasn’t messed with N1, which I took to mean aaron could still have been RB’d at the time I made posts your quoting.

[bji]

Well, it kinda looks like icon

is

lying right now. But icon rolled back his claim that Aaron wasn’t messed with N1, which I took to mean aaron could still have been RB’d at the time I made posts your quoting.

Sorry, can you point out where Ico rolled back the claim? Because I must have missed that ... there was ALOT to read after all ...

[Iconeum]

i've claimed it all folks

i saw aaron perform his action on N1, on emps

i saw a player that is not slaxx perform a blocking action on a player that is not slaxx (and obviously not myself) on N2

the only thing that is unsure here is what kind of blocking action

[Iconeum]

the roleblocker didn't target you

If you have that as fact, then slaxx is lying yeah? And if you don’t then either quit saying stuff like this or full claim so we can help you with the mechanics.

Like I’ve got you as Town, and so does everybody else, but I don’t think we can afford another mechanical mistake. You dying in a spot where we can’t accurately pick up your crumbs is a mistake.

I'm a combined tracker/watcher.

I saw aaron perform a role investigative action on N1 on emps.

I saw a player (that is not slaxx) perform a roleblocking type of action on N2 on a player (that is not slaxx)

follower/watcher*

[Datisi]

And you didn't see anyone visit Aaron on N1?

[Iconeum]

And you didn't see anyone visit Aaron on N1?

no

[Datisi]

Icon if you're town lying about any part of your claim i heavily suggest saying so right now

[Iconeum]

Icon if you're town lying about any part of your claim i heavily suggest saying so right now

i'm not

but my role would not allow me to see anyone targeting my target

i can target a player to see where they go and what type of action they perform

[Datisi]

are you a comibed follower/watcher or a combined follower/tracker then???

[Iconeum]

Reconsidered. Slaxx can easily be Town and that makes the Roleblocker you found to be scum. Highly doubt both are Town.

Yeah well. Does a scum roleblocker target menalque? I think not.

[Iconeum]

are you a comibed follower/watcher or a combined follower/tracker then???

follower/tracker

[Iconeum]

i suck i know

[bji]

I will ask one more time and then I'm going to tunnel you to death if you don't answer Ico. I might tunnel you to death anyway depending on how you answer.

WHY DID YOU IMMEDIATELY ASK AARON TO CLAIM INSTEAD OF WAITING TO GATHER MORE EVIDENCE OR TRY TO USE YOUR PRIVATE KNOWLEDGE TO SET UP A BETTER OUTCOME THAN TOWN COP DEAD?

[Datisi]

if you were anyone else i'd be screaming "scum" right now

pedit: this was @ico