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[BrightEyedFish]

Going up in gsp is like a drug

VOTE: Geraintm

lolololol

now add nippy to that scum team.

[BrightEyedFish]

VOTE: geraintm

You've got a point.

you too!!!!!!!

[BrightEyedFish]

Ok, so I kinda hate how this wagon is so quick but it also excites me for some reason.

[BrightEyedFish]

It kinda makes my EJ case get buried though.

[Flavor Leaf]

BEF, one of Egix/Aloratom, then possibly Espresso for the scum team is standing out to me.
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I may not want Gera anymore

[geraintm]

VOTE: geranium

Still think this flips scum.

catching up....

Yeah, your vote on Bob pretty much means I don't care what you think....

[geraintm]

VOTE: geranium

Still think this flips scum.

There's got to be more to it than that.

With Bob's flip, Geraintm doesn't make as much sense to me today as he did yesterday.

With Bob's flip, Geraintm doesn't make as much sense to me today as he did yesterday.

Explain you’re thinking when most people think the exact opposite as you.

With the way Bob was defending geraintm, I thought there may have been a connection.

VOTE: geraintm

You've got a point.

Going to come back to this, but this is scummy as heck. Thought Bob was scummy yesterday because he defended me. bob turns out town. this makes me...scum?
today, starts out questioning someone's vote on me because there is no reason, and inside 12 hours has joined the wagon on me?

[geraintm]

VOTE: Gera

I could see it too. Didn’t like their play when they were nearing lynch yesterday

put yourself in the shoes of an uniformed townie, are my actions consistent with that?

[profii]

BEF, one of Egix/Aloratom, then possibly Espresso for the scum team is standing out to me.
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I may not want Gera anymore

my gut feeling which really means vague memories because I haven't really looked back at day 1 and can't remember that long ago are making me think "I need to check alo and espresso first"

there's probably something in that

[geraintm]

Going up in gsp is like a drug

VOTE: Geraintm

I don't even understand this post
their literal first mention of me all game is this vote

[geraintm]

We already have a turbowagon on the rise, eh?
I'll read sometime today what has been happening so far.

I think the bob-wagon wasn't as informative as it could've been, and I still think gera might not have been a bad choice per se, but at the very start of day 2 we are rushing to that lynch?
Eh?

Maybe some discussion first?

If germ was town, odds are a new wagon wouldn’t have formed on somebody else.

Odds are that it depends solely on the people starting the pushes.
Now assume germ is town - you could argue that 0-1 scum were ever in the bob lynch. (obv. could be any other number too, but for the sake of your argument about odds)
These scum would now want gera lynched, because they'd have the angle of "I wanted gera yesterday, but then you guys formed a counterwagon on a townie".
So lynching gera today becomes almost like a freebie..

^^^ like this post. Both wagons yesterday were terrible, filled with awful logic and ended too quickly (you don't let a day end when there are so many lukers, its just unhelpful for town, always)

[geraintm]

I think I am at 4 votes and not everyone has actually posted today. I know you can't all be scum, so a bunch of you are sucky townies.

Egix -

@

1) people jumping on the geraintm wagon: can someone explain to me the case against him?

Personally, I’ve got the same read on him I had on bob3141. They’re town who are posting a lot and sorta trying to get the game moving but not really actually looking for scum. I get how that makes them appear scum but as more scummy when compared to other players here? I guess geraintm’s outlook is slightly worse cause he’s self-proclaimed not scum hunting yet, but idk why he appears to be a more appealing target than some of the lurkers out there who come, vote on the wagon, say little to justify their vote, and disappear till the next wagon.
Looking at you espressojet and emperor flippynips (and

2) to a lesser extent flavor leaf as you’re not actively lurking as bad

).

Imo that looks scummier than whatever is is that geraintm is doing.
@geraintm: what are you doing? Day 2 is here. Any scum reads to share? Yea, flavor looks scummy, espressojet too, and now emperor flippynips I get is lurking and posting to vote on a wagon and provide absolutely nothing else. But anything else?

1) I'd like to see this too.

2) No? I get the impression that Flavor has been active lurking (problem is he usually does this on D1 of games ime) whereas EFN probably was away for a long time?

let me get this straight. 9 posts and you are calling someone out for lurking and you want my reads - when you have provided straight up bupkiss this game?

I want you to do a ton more this game. if you are town, you should be. if you are scum, I want you to because I am going to be pissed if overly eagerly voting townies who are bored get us to an end game with you coasting.

[geraintm]

Emperor - what can I say about them except they effectively hammered yesterday and today they have voted for me for ...reasons

13 posts.
this is the content
0 - hello gif
1 - i'll post later
2 - no cotent
3 - read on BEF (town) flavour (scum)
4 - bob is weird
5 - prod dodge
6- agreeing with aother post
7 - 1st
8 - an "interesting" gif
9 - I am catching up
10 vote bob
11 vote me
12 ?
13 ?

This is the kind of person I actively dislike being in games with. if town they suck. if scum, then I hate them.

[geraintm]

I played with aloratom last game, he is giving me way different vibes than that game. flavour just appears to get on my nerves, but the rest of you seem to accept it and he is never going to get lynched. emperor and egix I want removed from the game because they make playing mafia impossible.

but VOTE: aloratom

[Flavor Leaf]

aloratom (3) ~ egix96,

ejjinami, bob3141

This wagon is the other wagon when Bob got lynched.

Probably indicative of scum being somewhere here, and I think I’m happy to go Alora today.

VOTE: Aloratom

Egix has scum equity, but I think positioning wise it makes more sense for Alora to be scum here?

[Flavor Leaf]

I also don’t really like that Mavsfan post, but I’m not sure why I don’t like it right now.

The fact that Espressojet, myself, and FlippyNips was brought up all in the same post makes me think there’s some equity there for EspressoJet-Mavs team, but I’ll need more to really warrant pushing that further.

[geraintm]

aloratom (3) ~ egix96,

ejjinami, bob3141

This wagon is the other wagon when Bob got lynched.

Probably indicative of scum being somewhere here, and I think I’m happy to go Alora today.

VOTE: Aloratom

Egix has scum equity, but I think positioning wise it makes more sense for Alora to be scum here?

if aloratom flips scum, then egix would be an interesting place to go after, agree with that reasoning

[UnaBombaH]

It hard for me to imagine that there is not at least 1 scum on that Bob wagon.

That leaves:
unabombah, profii, brighteyedfish, emperor flippynips, jake from state farm, espressojet, flavor leaf

FL hammer is a FL hammer. I wish this was AI but FL could still go other way. This is where his meta helps him as both alignments. So I will remove him (and myself) for my current PoE

profii, jake from state farm, espressojet

Una and (lurky) Nippy are still null for me right now:

profii, jake from state farm, espressojet

This might be absolutely nothing, but I got a slight ping from this.
There's a silly mistake here, you see.

Profii has removed me and "Nippy" from the first line already, before explaining why.
Hence, he repeats the exact same "line of remaining suspects" after mentioning us separately.

Could be a legit mistake, but if I'd play the devils advocate here, I'd say that the post might be "crafted" in the sense that he added/changed something to fit an agenda or faked reads better.
Meaning that since I know my own alignment, I'm also wary of the chance that scum!BEF might now imply scum!Nippy.

'tis all. Otherwise I really like BEF's effort so far.

[UnaBombaH]

I can see one of Boon/Jake/Mavs being scum.
It's a shame really that I don't want to say much else about them yet, except that the order here would matter.

Boon - you do realize I would always check you N1 if I was an investigative?

[mavsfan41]

VOTE: geranium

Still think this flips scum.

VOTE: Gera

I could see it too. Didn’t like their play when they were nearing lynch yesterday

If you two are just trolling my Jake&FL scum team theory, please stop. This isn't helping.

I have this same read but they’re just making it waaaaay too obvious to the point of incompetent scum pairing so I find it unlikely. Although......... check out FL’s post in 341. That one struck me as weird coming so early and seemingly outta nowhere.

Also, BEF, I like your posting a lot! You’re officially removed from my scum list read. Keep it up!

[Flavor Leaf]

I can see one of Boon/Jake/Mavs being scum.
It's a shame really that I don't want to say much else about them yet, except that the order here would matter.

Boon - you do realize I would always check you N1 if I was an investigative?

All you did in this post is confirm you aren’t an investigative.

FOS: UnaBombah

[BrightEyedFish]

It hard for me to imagine that there is not at least 1 scum on that Bob wagon.

That leaves:
unabombah, profii, brighteyedfish, emperor flippynips, jake from state farm, espressojet, flavor leaf

FL hammer is a FL hammer. I wish this was AI but FL could still go other way. This is where his meta helps him as both alignments. So I will remove him (and myself) for my current PoE

profii, jake from state farm, espressojet

Una and (lurky) Nippy are still null for me right now:

profii, jake from state farm, espressojet

This might be absolutely nothing, but I got a slight ping from this.
There's a silly mistake here, you see.

Profii has removed me and "Nippy" from the first line already, before explaining why.
Hence, he repeats the exact same "line of remaining suspects" after mentioning us separately.

Could be a legit mistake, but if I'd play the devils advocate here, I'd say that the post might be "crafted" in the sense that he added/changed something to fit an agenda or faked reads better.
Meaning that since I know my own alignment, I'm also wary of the chance that scum!BEF might now imply scum!Nippy.

'tis all. Otherwise I really like BEF's effort so far.

It took me a couple of reads to understand what you meant. It was a copy/cut/paste error I'm assuming. I was just trying to deduce the bob wagon to get a starting point for myself today.

I just hope this game doesn't evolve so quickly into a setup spec thing because I am not the best in that area. I like to rely more on VCA and associations.

[BrightEyedFish]

aloratom (3) ~ egix96,

ejjinami, bob3141

This wagon is the other wagon when Bob got lynched.

Probably indicative of scum being somewhere here, and I think I’m happy to go Alora today.

VOTE: Aloratom

Egix has scum equity, but I think positioning wise it makes more sense for Alora to be scum here?

How would positioning on Alor's wagon make Alor scum? Wouldn't that meam Scum!Egix = Scum!Alor and not the other way around. Or am I misunderstanding this post.

[BrightEyedFish]

VOTE: geranium

Still think this flips scum.

catching up....

Yeah, your vote on Bob pretty much means I don't care what you think....

Based on numbers alone there has to be at least 3-4 Town on that wagon depending on the number of players on the scum team and how many of them are on the bob wagon. Or is this pure OMGUS?

[geraintm]

VOTE: geranium

Still think this flips scum.

catching up....

Yeah, your vote on Bob pretty much means I don't care what you think....

Based on numbers alone there has to be at least 3-4 Town on that wagon depending on the number of players on the scum team and how many of them are on the bob wagon. Or is this pure OMGUS?

I was catching up, this was the first post I came to. He voted me saying he still thinks I am scum, but I basically am ignoring his thinking due to
a) thinking I am scum for some reason
b) the way he talked himself into lynching Bob yesterday.

I have him basically pegged as "bad player" and this was me saying as much,