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[Datisi]

On the wiki for ascetic

An Ascetic role cannot be targeted by anything other than a kill. A role attempting to target an Ascetic should be seen doing so by Trackers and Motion Detectors, even though they would not be seen if they were directly roleblocked.

They would not have been seen is directly roleblocked

[Menalque]

Wait I got targeted

[Datisi]

Yes lmao
Icon saw someone use a blocking action on you

[Iconeum]

Wait I got targeted

someone used a blocking action on you

do you think that's town or scum indicative

[Iconeum]

btw yes i know *who* targeted you

[bob3141]

If they were to be put in lists. Thats roughly were my reads are right now

ico, looker
bjj, sky
datisi
slaxx, menal
micc

[bob3141]

Ive seen combined roles before. Few games ago i saw tracker/rolecop.

were the player tracked me to emps and got the info that i was a jk

[Iconeum]

datisi what did you wanna see resolved from N1?

[bob3141]

gut feeling is that and rb was done by town.

As why wouldnt scum rb slaxx or ico. slaxx claimed pr and ico claimed a pr result.

If slaxx is scim that still leaves why scum didnt rb ico.

Now if its town pr. Well a pr with rb element isnt going to target ico or aaron

[Iconeum]

I don't know
Currently brainstorming mech explanations first
Because there's currently 2 things unexplained about N1

I think out of the two we lynch Micc but i can't tell for sure atm

Will be back in a few hours

I mean, I also wanna know why aaron didn't have a result on emps

what's the second item?

[Iconeum]

gut feeling is that and rb was done by town.

As why wouldnt scum rb slaxx or ico. slaxx claimed pr and ico claimed a pr result.

If slaxx is scim that still leaves why scum didnt rb ico.

Now if its town pr. Well a pr with rb element isnt going to target ico or aaron

have you read my case on slaxx wrt to his 'rolestop' on aaron?

[Datisi]

datisi what did you wanna see resolved from N1?

If i say what the mech inconsistency i noticed is then scum can theoretically play around that

[the worst]

Have we confirmed that icon’s role is even possible

@ducky are combined roles normal?

combined is a normal modifier
can't confirm whether or not it exists in this game

@ducky would a hypothetical combined role be able to perform the ability for both roles at the same time? Is that what combined means?

This post has the explanation of the Combined modifier for Normal games

@ducky if a hypothetical follower (X) targeted someone (Y) who used let’s say a protective action, if Y was targeted by let’s say a hypothetical roleblocker (Z) would X still see Y using their action even if said action failed due to Z’s action?

I can't answer this

[Iconeum]

can we talk about slaxx and his choice of protecting aaron (his scumread), over a claimed PR that is also his townread?

and not just protect, making damn sure aaronslot couldn't get resolved other then a NK

[bob3141]

VOTE: micc

This was the player i was expecting to lynch at deadline. Was not happy when i saw that what was left was pine. With micc wagon having fallen all the way down to 2. I think if pine had just posts and not antagonized the entire player list with beleif that its unreasonable to expect him to make any game related posts for 2 hole day phases

[Iconeum]

VOTE: micc

This was the player i was expecting to lynch at deadline. Was not happy when i saw that what was left was pine. With micc wagon having fallen all the way down to 2. I think if pine had just posts and not antagonized the entire player list with beleif that its unreasonable to expect him to make any game related posts for 2 hole day phases

thoughts on my post 2570?

[bob3141]

can we talk about slaxx and his choice of protecting aaron (his scumread), over a claimed PR that is also his townread?

and not just protect, making damn sure aaronslot couldn't get resolved other then a NK

If think he is just scum trying to get credit. as well as push that aaron was rb inorder to save micc. who aaron had no result on

If he was town the logical choice would be ico. if aaron lived we would have had micc vs aaron. worse case for scum they get one inno but get rid of invest role that wasnt under suspicion

[Iconeum]

seriously tho, i think this game comes down to town having a bunch of investigatives and some blockers in the mix to screw everything up, while scum are heavy on non-multitasking astetics to make them choose in acting (like killing or maybe another power role), or hiding from the power roles

[Iconeum]

can we talk about slaxx and his choice of protecting aaron (his scumread), over a claimed PR that is also his townread?

and not just protect, making damn sure aaronslot couldn't get resolved other then a NK

If think he is just scum trying to get credit. as well as push that aaron was rb inorder to save micc. who aaron had no result on

If he was town the logical choice would be ico. if aaron lived we would have had micc vs aaron. worse case for scum they get one inno but get rid of invest role that wasnt under suspicion

if you believe slaxx is scum, then he's the better lynch with him MOST likely being an actual power role for his team

[bob3141]

VOTE: micc

This was the player i was expecting to lynch at deadline. Was not happy when i saw that what was left was pine. With micc wagon having fallen all the way down to 2. I think if pine had just posts and not antagonized the entire player list with beleif that its unreasonable to expect him to make any game related posts for 2 hole day phases

thoughts on my post 2570?

does certainly look bad for slaxx

[Datisi]

Can we chill for a second though
I still want sky's catchup today

[Iconeum]

"""Tracker interactions: This isn't strictly an update, but something there's been some confusion on recently. If a tracker targets a player that targets an ascetic, they should see the action. This has been clarified a bit on the ascetic wiki page, which has a sentence stating that ascetic players effectively reflexively roleblock (which would lead to the opposite result); the part of the page listed under "normal guidelines" should always take precedence in cases such as this."""

i mean between all possible explanations

scum having multiple ascetics that they can either use or not is the most plausible imo

[Iconeum]

Can we chill for a second though
I still want sky's catchup today

sky needs to catchup yes

menal also needs to respond to some stuff that he's been kinda evasive over today

[Iconeum]

bob is kinda in the PoE as well but i like his readslist

[bob3141]

"""Tracker interactions: This isn't strictly an update, but something there's been some confusion on recently. If a tracker targets a player that targets an ascetic, they should see the action. This has been clarified a bit on the ascetic wiki page, which has a sentence stating that ascetic players effectively reflexively roleblock (which would lead to the opposite result); the part of the page listed under "normal guidelines" should always take precedence in cases such as this."""

i mean between all possible explanations

scum having multiple ascetics that they can either use or not is the most plausible imo

I think the balance of this game was based on scum making the rigth choice when to activate the aesthetic ability.


As player being rb but being tracked. Would result in guilty
not using and cop visting them would get guilty
using and tracker using it would give neutral result.

ect