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Post Post #2975 (ISO) » Wed Mar 04, 2020 2:18 am

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In post 2974, Datisi wrote:Btw my target isn't set in stone yet
Because i kinda doubt both micc and slaxx are scum together
So I'm open to hearing other opinions
Remind me why again?

But I guess bob/bji if you won’t do me
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Post Post #2976 (ISO) » Wed Mar 04, 2020 2:19 am

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Agh, idk, yesterday slaxx was pushing for micc quite a bit
And i can't remember if it gave partnery or nonpartnery feels
Not like i can usually read it
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Post Post #2977 (ISO) » Wed Mar 04, 2020 2:20 am

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But i also wanna deadsheep GL bc he smort
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Post Post #2978 (ISO) » Wed Mar 04, 2020 2:29 am

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The list aint that long?

Original Playerlist:
1.Menalque
2.Looker
3.bji
5.Slaxx rep. wilky
6.Micc rep. emps
7.Datisi
10.Iconeum
11.Skygazer rep. Eddie Cane, Tchill13, UltimatePlank
13.bob3141

all of ico/dats/looker/sky town or prob town

leaving menal/bji/micc/
slaxx
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Post Post #2979 (ISO) » Wed Mar 04, 2020 2:31 am

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In post 2976, Datisi wrote:Agh, idk, yesterday slaxx was pushing for micc quite a bit
And i can't remember if it gave partnery or nonpartnery feels
Not like i can usually read it
Lmao don’t stress about this too much. It’s not going to matter. Wait until I actually flip my dude.
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Post Post #2980 (ISO) » Wed Mar 04, 2020 2:37 am

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errrmmmm

you do know the point in figuring out who the town roleblocker is going to target in case the second-to-last scum is lynched today, right?
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Post Post #2981 (ISO) » Wed Mar 04, 2020 2:39 am

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and also like
from town!you pov
you know (1) scum is hella stronk and (2) that town is royally fucked once you're lynched
what are you doing
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Post Post #2982 (ISO) » Wed Mar 04, 2020 2:45 am

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the opposite is also true i suppose?

scum have rolestopper and doc? that's pretty lol?
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Post Post #2983 (ISO) » Wed Mar 04, 2020 2:47 am

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In post 2982, Iconeum wrote:the opposite is also true i suppose?

scum have rolestopper and doc? that's pretty lol?
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Post Post #2984 (ISO) » Wed Mar 04, 2020 2:48 am

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Use and Power

Assuming the rolestopper can block kills, it's a stronger protective role than the doctor. Its targets can't be cleared by investigative roles on the same night--but they also can't be roleblocked.
In mafia hands, rolestoppers can protect their teammates from investigative roles (and vigs) from the start of the game without any need to identify them first
. Rolestoppers are much more defensive than roleblockers, and can't shut down any specific power role even if they know who has it.

The version that cannot block kills is stronger for scum – you can rolestop the kill target to prevent Doctors interfering with kills – but so much weaker for Town that it's almost Negative Utility.
this from the wiki tho
slaxx if ur town i'm sorry but
you need to die :lol:

town has 2 strong investigatives vs a mafia role that is the literal counter to this

with a roleblocker in the mix for maximum shenanigans and throw in a couple ascetics because why the.fuck.not
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Post Post #2985 (ISO) » Wed Mar 04, 2020 2:50 am

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rolestopper is also a counter to the roleblocker

also also if he's scum you do know he doesn't have to claim his exact role with the word "town" slapped on it

for all we know he could be a goon bullshitting here

not saying how likely or unlikely that is bc i'm a bit braindead atm but

just saying
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Post Post #2986 (ISO) » Wed Mar 04, 2020 2:51 am

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In post 2885, Slaxx wrote:I think Micc is still the optimal lynch, though he has redeemed the slot quite a bit. Maybe Bob or Menal for partner. I keep forgetting bji is in the game but it doesn’t feel like he’s giving off that vibe intentionally.
why is micc optimal if in the same breath you say the slot is looking a lot better

how are either of bob or menal good partners to micc
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Post Post #2987 (ISO) » Wed Mar 04, 2020 2:53 am

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In post 2984, Iconeum wrote:town has 2 strong investigatives vs a mafia role that is the literal counter to thiswith a roleblocker in the mix for maximum shenanigans and throw in a couple ascetics because why the.fuck.not

Probable conversation in the NRG:

-Duck: Ali give me a setup with a lot of power roles that interfere with each other so i can laugh at these plebs trying to solve shit
-Ali: ok i can give you an investigative vs a rolestopper or a combined tracker/follower vs a couple ascetics. which one do you want?
-Duck: yes perfect and make them informed plz
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Post Post #2988 (ISO) » Wed Mar 04, 2020 2:55 am

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In post 2987, Iconeum wrote:Probable conversation in the NRG:

-Duck: Ali give me a setup with a lot of power roles that interfere with each other so i can laugh at these plebs trying to solve shit
-Ali: ok i can give you an investigative vs a rolestopper or a combined tracker/follower vs a couple ascetics. which one do you want?
-Duck: yes perfect and make them informed plz
i am literally laughing to tears rn
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Post Post #2989 (ISO) » Wed Mar 04, 2020 3:18 am

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Lynch me then. See where the setup spec gets you :)
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Post Post #2990 (ISO) » Wed Mar 04, 2020 3:20 am

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In post 2989, Slaxx wrote:Lynch me then. See where the setup spec gets you :)
can you help us by answering the questions if ur town?
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Post Post #2991 (ISO) » Wed Mar 04, 2020 3:21 am

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and like, setup spec

from a town!you pov why aren't you incredibly worried about what scum powers include and are not saying what night actions should be to give us the best chance at winning?
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Post Post #2992 (ISO) » Wed Mar 04, 2020 3:21 am

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My guess for one scum is Bob. Don’t like the way he’s going around my wagon.

Let’s play a thought game: when I flip town, what happens? You all are preparing yourself for my scum flip so surely there should be contingency for my town flip as well, yes?
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Post Post #2993 (ISO) » Wed Mar 04, 2020 3:24 am

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plan for Slaxx townflip:
- icon and dats target whoever they want to even though it probably won't matter because scum is packed
- god help us all
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Post Post #2994 (ISO) » Wed Mar 04, 2020 3:25 am

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In post 2991, Iconeum wrote:and like, setup spec

from a town!you pov why aren't you incredibly worried about what scum powers include and are not saying what night actions should be to give us the best chance at winning?
Because it’s not going to be my problem. It’s going to be yours.
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Post Post #2995 (ISO) » Wed Mar 04, 2020 3:25 am

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In post 2993, Datisi wrote:plan for Slaxx townflip:
- icon and dats target whoever they want to even though it probably won't matter because scum is packed
- god help us all
If y’all don’t lynch bob or Micc tomorrow we deserve the loss.
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Post Post #2996 (ISO) » Wed Mar 04, 2020 3:26 am

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Bji/Menal maybe.

Looker is town. Like 70% sure, which for this game, lovely.
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Post Post #2997 (ISO) » Wed Mar 04, 2020 3:26 am

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In post 2992, Slaxx wrote:My guess for one scum is Bob. Don’t like the way he’s going around my wagon.

Let’s play a thought game: when I flip town, what happens? You all are preparing yourself for my scum flip so surely there should be contingency for my town flip as well, yes?
we are, and are asking you for your input right now in case that happens
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Post Post #2998 (ISO) » Wed Mar 04, 2020 3:27 am

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In post 2994, Slaxx wrote:Because it’s not going to be my problem. It’s going to be yours.
not quite
town loses together
if you're town you're tanking the winrate%
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Post Post #2999 (ISO) » Wed Mar 04, 2020 3:28 am

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In post 2995, Slaxx wrote:If y’all don’t lynch bob or Micc tomorrow we deserve the loss.
if you flip town, and i'm alive tomorrow

not even the great wall of china will stopping me pushing a micc lynch
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