Mini Normal 2119 [game over]

[Slaxx]

If y’all don’t lynch bob or Micc tomorrow we deserve the loss.

if you flip town, and i'm alive tomorrow

not even the great wall of china will stopping me pushing a micc lynch

Okay good. I can die in peace then.

[Slaxx]

Quack, MFer

[Iconeum]

at least you got post 3000

[Slaxx]

I’m going to steal as many page tops as possible to punish TW for this setup.

[Datisi]

hmmm
ico, you've played with bob before right
how good are his reads usually

[Micc]

I am ready to lynch slaxx now.

[Datisi]

I want bji and sky to give us *something* before the day ends.

Also, Micc, thoughts on my target if slaxx!scum?

[Micc]

I agree with targeting me. If slaxx flips mafia rolestop then your N2 roleblock looks mostly clearing on Menalque. Would want the same on me. If slaxx flips goon then scum likely have a the equivalent of a ungated strongman and I don’t think your RB matters.

I worry more about scenarios where slaxx flips town. But at least i don’t have to play lylo so it’s not my problem.

And I agree with respect to sky/bji otherwise I’d have voted.

[Datisi]

I agree with targeting me. If slaxx flips mafia rolestop then your N2 roleblock looks mostly clearing on Menalque.

How? I was thinking the other way around - if Slaxx flips Mafia Rolestopper then my N2 softclear on Menalque is literally worthless. (I still think he's Town, but mechanically it's worthless.)

If slaxx flips goon then scum likely have a the equivalent of a ungated strongman and I don’t think your RB matters.

Again, not sure how you got here. The Town Power would still be Tracker/Follower, Informed Cop, Roleblocker, Ascetic - you think it justifies an ungated Strongman?
Actually now that i type it out i'm not so sure anymore. This setup is a headache.

[Micc]

I’m think in terms of overall power balance. Scumteam having the rolestop and a way to fight through a RB being less likely than just rolestop. Chemist being absolutely not enough to fight the town power you listed.

But also keep in mind that I’m demonstrably bad at balance.

I don’t like trying to solve this game on mechanics. I’ve allowed myself to be convinced that slaxx is the lynch today only because of interactions with the chemist wagon and not liking his reaction to being the leading wagon today. These things in addition to his claim not quite fitting.

[Datisi]

A Mafia aligned Rolestop quite literally *is* a way to fight through a Town RB.

Anyway. This game is a game. Still taking input for my tonight's target if Slaxx flips red. For now still Micc. I think I go nap now. Be well all.

[bji]

Datisi, what about target Sky if Slaxx flips red? I'm going on the advice of Persivul who told me that cops should investigate lurkers so that town can focus on the actual players. Since if Slaxx flips red you are in essence a cop, fingering Sky would clear that slot and we wouldn't have to worry about any lurker lynching anymore. Just a thought.

I really have only had time to keep up with reading the thread, no time to post much, but I will have more time later today. As it is my kids are almost late for school so ... later dudez

[bob3141]

VOTE: Slaxx

Dont like his replys to my questions. He says he misread pine but how could any genuine town player get a read of pine. Any town player would come up with simply that the slot was a blind one that was never going to do anything.

He pushes micc and then as soon as micc wagon moves pien to pine. He is all of sudden a big advocate of pine lynch.

Also i dont get why slaxx is pushing that the entire scum team is in the vt claims. As for this game to be balanced one of town pr claims has to be scum. Esp considering that we had cop.

Since he clearly believes ico and datisi are town. how does he think that he fits in.

[Slaxx]

VOTE: Slaxx

Dont like his replys to my questions. He says he misread pine but how could any genuine town player get a read of pine. Any town player would come up with simply that the slot was a blind one that was never going to do anything.

He pushes micc and then as soon as micc wagon moves pien to pine. He is all of sudden a big advocate of pine lynch.

Also i dont get why slaxx is pushing that the entire scum team is in the vt claims. As for this game to be balanced one of town pr claims has to be scum. Esp considering that we had cop.

Since he clearly believes ico and datisi are town. how does he think that he fits in.

Arguably. This is why I’m town, because I’d know as scum I need to push one. But I honestly don’t read either as scum, so.

[Slaxx]

And I claimed pretty early I was fine with Micc or Pine, so I don’t get that reasoning.

[Slaxx]

I looked through bobs iso because I don’t like that he is saying having a read on Pine is impossible as town but he had been saying it was an NAI slot so the thought process is consistent at least

[Slaxx]

Idk bros. Just lynch Micc tomorrow.

[the worst]

vote count 3.06

Slaxx (4) - Looker, Menalque, Iconeum, bob3141
Micc (1) - Slaxx

not voting: bji, Micc, Skygazer, Datisi

with 9 alive it takes 5 to lynch

This phase ends in (expired on 2020-03-08 16:50:00).


mod notes: quack

[Skygazer]

Why are we lynching Slaxx?

[Iconeum]

Why are we lynching Slaxx?

Trying to win the game

Other thoughts?

[Micc]

When I flip town though people need to seriously reconsider the other claims because I sense some fuckery. And don’t lynch off setup spec after me.

VOTE: Slaxx

Dont like his replys to my questions. He says he misread pine but how could any genuine town player get a read of pine. Any town player would come up with simply that the slot was a blind one that was never going to do anything.

He pushes micc and then as soon as micc wagon moves pien to pine. He is all of sudden a big advocate of pine lynch.

Also i dont get why slaxx is pushing that the entire scum team is in the vt claims. As for this game to be balanced one of town pr claims has to be scum. Esp considering that we had cop.

Since he clearly believes ico and datisi are town. how does he think that he fits in.

Arguably. This is why I’m town, because I’d know as scum I need to push one. But I honestly don’t read either as scum, so.

You did push in the direction of Icon/Datisi for a moment in post 2847 before it got shut down. Did something change between then and now?

[Datisi]

I mean, blocking Sky is a possibility. But I still want to believe that UP is town, plus i do think it would be good to have Micc's slot resolved. Basically I'm hoping to have Sky contribute before EoD for now.

Also if someone lolhammers this again, you are seriously damaging my nerves
So pls don't

[Slaxx]

@Micc

Their play made sense with their claims.

[Slaxx]

@Dati you’re lucky I don’t self vote otherwise it would be me

[Micc]

A Mafia aligned Rolestop quite literally *is* a way to fight through a Town RB.

Anyway. This game is a game. Still taking input for my tonight's target if Slaxx flips red. For now still Micc. I think I go nap now. Be well all.

Right. I think I was thinking about how that is not the case when considering a single person scum team, but then extended it to N2 when that obviously doesn't work. idk this stuff is hard.

If the Slaxx flip leads you to believe that your RB would create a confirmed townie on N3 then I believe I should be the target because we stand to gain the most from me being removed from the lynch pool.

If there's any doubt at all about whether your RB can create a confirmed townie then don't waste your time on me, because that's a world where you guys are lynching me eventually regardless.

I think Slaxx flipping Mafia Rolestop fits into the first one, but considering what we know about the setup I understand not taking that for granted. Goon falls into the second scenario. Any other flip from Slaxx is really up to your judgment.