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[Iconeum]

You played scum with him smfh how don't you remember everything from every single game you've played
Anyway
Tinfoil has me wondering if bob/wilky was a distance attempt day 1
Bc at this point i don't understand this game even if slaxx flips scum so

i can't even remember the game we played scum together so…

i'll try to find it (*cough help*)

[the worst]

vote count 3.07

Slaxx (4) - Looker, Menalque, Iconeum, bob3141
Micc (1) - Slaxx
bob3141 (1) - bji

not voting: Micc, Skygazer, Datisi

with 9 alive it takes 5 to lynch

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[Datisi]

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why do i know your games better than you know your games

[Iconeum]

Post Post #78 (isolation #19) » Wed Jul 31, 2019 5:58 pm

I hope sky doesnt realise im doign exactly what i did in our scum game togather. Look scummy but not scummy enough to get lynched and scum town players up by association

there wasn't a ton of interesting goodies in the scum pt but we need sky to come in and open up the bob slot. multiple mentions of sky being able to solidly read bob

[Iconeum]

viewtopic.php?f=2&t=80371

why do i know your games better than you know your games

[Iconeum]

@skygazer can you give a read on bob please

[Menalque]

has heavy doubts about my allignment

doesn't wanna engage in talk that might help solve those doubts

that don't feel good to me

yeah, but again, was the counter wagon to chem on D1

idk I think it's just lazy town who's complacent because they've basically been cleared all game

[Menalque]

also not sure that ascetic townie makes sense as a claim from scum after chem flipped ascetic

[Iconeum]

has heavy doubts about my allignment

doesn't wanna engage in talk that might help solve those doubts

that don't feel good to me

yeah, but again, was the counter wagon to chem on D1

idk I think it's just lazy town who's complacent because they've basically been cleared all game

i know and i don't even really mean feel bad like in scummy

like i think i've treated most slots pretty fairly this game and have been open to anyone to talk about stuff and looker just shuts down any attempts of mine to interact and help solve this game/help him sort me

feels bad man

[Menalque]

Datisi, what about target Sky if Slaxx flips red? I'm going on the advice of Persivul who told me that cops should investigate lurkers so that town can focus on the actual players. Since if Slaxx flips red you are in essence a cop, fingering Sky would clear that slot and we wouldn't have to worry about any lurker lynching anymore. Just a thought.

I really have only had time to keep up with reading the thread, no time to post much, but I will have more time later today. As it is my kids are almost late for school so ... later dudez

err, no? sky is obvtown from plank's D1 play, that's a waste of an invest

should 100% be on micc/me/you/bob if slaxx flips red

[Menalque]

has heavy doubts about my allignment

doesn't wanna engage in talk that might help solve those doubts

that don't feel good to me

yeah, but again, was the counter wagon to chem on D1

idk I think it's just lazy town who's complacent because they've basically been cleared all game

i know and i don't even really mean feel bad like in scummy

like i think i've treated most slots pretty fairly this game and have been open to anyone to talk about stuff and looker just shuts down any attempts of mine to interact and help solve this game/help him sort me

feels bad man

I think you've been mostly fair but it's also hard to judge bc I do feel like you've been kinda tunnely on me

and yeah I mean that may not be helpful but I don't think scum would play like that, I think they'd be trying to look helpful not just not caring about being a dick

so he is sortable from his lack of willingness to be sorted if that makes sense

[Menalque]

I mean, blocking Sky is a possibility. But I still want to believe that UP is town, plus i do think it would be good to have Micc's slot resolved. Basically I'm hoping to have Sky contribute before EoD for now.

Also if someone lolhammers this again, you are seriously damaging my nerves

So pls don't

VOTE: slaxx

whoops

[Datisi]

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nice one. the VC is literally on this page.

[Iconeum]

I think you've been mostly fair but it's also hard to judge bc I do feel like you've been kinda tunnely on me

ur still solidly in my PoE and you know why that is

and have you seen me tunnel? this ain't it bro

[Menalque]

lol

@bji can you try not wall posting so much or just like summarising what you think unless you're asked to go into greater depth on things

because I'm trying to read 3038 and honestly it's just like numbing my brain because there's so much text

[Iconeum]

I mean, blocking Sky is a possibility. But I still want to believe that UP is town, plus i do think it would be good to have Micc's slot resolved. Basically I'm hoping to have Sky contribute before EoD for now.

Also if someone lolhammers this again, you are seriously damaging my nerves

So pls don't

VOTE: slaxx

whoops

[Menalque]

I think you've been mostly fair but it's also hard to judge bc I do feel like you've been kinda tunnely on me

ur still solidly in my PoE and you know why that is

and have you seen me tunnel? this ain't it bro

I suppose I could have said mildly tunnely instead of kinda

I know what you're like when you tunnel and that this isn't it but it still feels like I would expect you to see that I'm solving by now?

I mean yes, I do get why I'm in your PoE but it's just like you seem very hung up on the idea, especially when if slaxx flips rolestopper then I basically am cleared from N2 and I feel like you're oversubscribing to stuff like me disagreeing with you on what we should do when I don't think that's AI

[Datisi]

I mean yes, I do get why I'm in your PoE but it's just like you seem very hung up on the idea,

especially when if slaxx flips rolestopper then I basically am cleared from N2

and I feel like you're oversubscribing to stuff like me disagreeing with you on what we should do when I don't think that's AI

mechanical stuff incoming
why does everyone keep saying this
when it's the exact opposite

[Menalque]

if slaxx flips scum then if dats is blocking micc we should lynch bob -> bji

bc I think the most obvious answer is bob as partner if it's not micc, but if bob flips town and micc is cleared then bji making a big push towards bob (knowing fhpov that micc will be cleared) is p bad because it's a way to start pre-emptively setting up for tomorrow

[Iconeum]

Your relation to the scumlynch was far from good.
Then there was the strong push on pine that 'wasn't just a lurker lynch' which flipped town. On top of that, pine lynch would eliminate a ton of possibilities for you and now that you have your lynch, you have resigned what control you had over the game and are committed to sheeping datisi and me.
That doesn't add up for me.

I would have expected you to come in with solves based off of pine lynch, but haven't seen any?

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In contrast to this, there are a good number of posts from you that I like and are townie. If anyone's interested I can dig these up. There's also Datisi's townread on you that I respect and you not having an optimal scum position wrt to chem lynch. Unless it's literally chem/menal/looker

[Iconeum]

if slaxx flips scum then if dats is blocking micc we should lynch bob -> bji

it should be easy enough for town to figure this game out if slaxx flips scum

the real terror starts if he flips town...

[Iconeum]

I mean yes, I do get why I'm in your PoE but it's just like you seem very hung up on the idea,

especially when if slaxx flips rolestopper then I basically am cleared from N2

and I feel like you're oversubscribing to stuff like me disagreeing with you on what we should do when I don't think that's AI

mechanical stuff incoming
why does everyone keep saying this
when it's the exact opposite

exactly this tho

slaxx flipping scum rolestopper

removes

whatever soft clear there was on menal

[Menalque]

I mean yes, I do get why I'm in your PoE but it's just like you seem very hung up on the idea,

especially when if slaxx flips rolestopper then I basically am cleared from N2

and I feel like you're oversubscribing to stuff like me disagreeing with you on what we should do when I don't think that's AI

mechanical stuff incoming
why does everyone keep saying this
when it's the exact opposite

Your relation to the scumlynch was far from good.
Then there was the strong push on pine that 'wasn't just a lurker lynch' which flipped town. On top of that, pine lynch would eliminate a ton of possibilities for you and now that you have your lynch, you have resigned what control you had over the game and are committed to sheeping datisi and me.
That doesn't add up for me.

I would have expected you to come in with solves based off of pine lynch, but haven't seen any?

---

In contrast to this, there are a good number of posts from you that I like and are townie. If anyone's interested I can dig these up. There's also Datisi's townread on you that I respect and you not having an optimal scum position wrt to chem lynch. Unless it's literally chem/menal/looker

I mean (1) if I was bussing chem I would have committed much earlier and just stuck with it
or alternatively I would have committed to faking a read somewhere else and stuck with that. like I would have had to literally played it the worst way possible if I was scum with regard to getting any cred off chem!Lynch D1 and I think I should have enough credit from my scum game for you to know that's unlikely -- which I see you acknowledging at the end, but it's like you're acknowledging it but not letting it feed into your read on me

(2) I never said it would "eliminate a ton of possibilities" I said it would let us know which universe we were in more easily -- however, massclaim did that for us instead, in that it made slaxx's claim much less believable than I thought it was on D2 and it removed Datisi as a possible busser on D1. which means that the game is simplified to (slaxx, micc, bob, bji) fmpov. slaxx, of those people, makes the most sense with micc and I don't believe his claim for much the same reasons that you don't. which I've already detailed. so I'm sheeping you because my views are aligned with you. if I thought it was totally wrong then I'd probably be dissenting, but having been ass backwards wrong in D1 and D2 I think me letting you do your thing is reasonable? if pine had flipped scum then you can bet your ass I'd be a lot more demanding of what we do, but he didn't

[Menalque]

if slaxx flips scum then if dats is blocking micc we should lynch bob -> bji

it should be easy enough for town to figure this game out if slaxx flips scum

the real terror starts if he flips town...

I doubt he flips town but agreed that this game gets

real

fucky if he does

[Menalque]

I mean yes, I do get why I'm in your PoE but it's just like you seem very hung up on the idea,

especially when if slaxx flips rolestopper then I basically am cleared from N2

and I feel like you're oversubscribing to stuff like me disagreeing with you on what we should do when I don't think that's AI

mechanical stuff incoming
why does everyone keep saying this
when it's the exact opposite

exactly this tho

slaxx flipping scum rolestopper

removes

whatever soft clear there was on menal

oh, as in he could have targeted me N2 to stop me getting roleblocked? ehhh I guess, yeah