Open 776: Korina is a Cultist

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1.8

With 10 alive, it is 6 to Lynch!

GuyInFreezer (3):Slaxx, Farkran, insomnia,
Klick (3): RCEnigma, Homura, Auro,
Homura (2): Sujimichi, Klick,
RCEnigma (1): GuyInFreezer,
insomnia (0):
Alyssa the Lamb (0):
Slaxx (0):
Farkran (0):
Sujimichi (0):
Auro (0):

Not Voting (1): Alyssa the Lamb,

Deadline is in (expired on 2020-03-21 13:35:12).

[Farkran]

Day is stalling a bit, i'd like to consolidate on something.

Alyssa vs Conspire still looks like the most interesting debate, i really don't see klick as scum here.

Alyssa can you answer what you meant to say with this?

I feel like his entire ISO is one big perspective slip

I mean, i can see GIF posturing towards an Alyssa lynch on d2... but is this what you meant to say, or is there anything else to his catchup?

[Alyssa The Lamb]

He's talking like hes hyper aware of how the game works

But he spends most of his posting time arguing things that don't matter, going into specific townreads for no apparent reason while others only get a mention, and no indication of who he thinks is the cultist, who he thinks the cultist is between (considering he apparently has at least 4 people he thinks aren't cult), or that he even cares about finding the cultist.

[Farkran]

Page 10.

VOTE: RCE

Page 25, p sure klick is town.

I need to stop skimming posts that I think are from town.
I'm basically skipping farkran/Auro posts like I skip Korina's.

Yeeeeeeeeah Klick is a klickbait here.
Oh look RCE is voting Klick

@Alyssa, do you think these reads are made up and irrelevant, coming from GIF catchup? Does Fark/Auro as town strike you as pushing consensus rather than genuine reads? Do you think there is scum intent in pushing RCE, or defending Klick?

[insomnia]

I think it’s just him to be honest, I looked back in my ISO and thought I had some good suspicion towards the Conspire slot. GIF’s catchup is also really scummy but I can’t articulate this. I don’t think I’m gonna compromise on anyone else today.

[Alyssa The Lamb]

put it this way, Farkran

who do you think GIF would need to try to push as a counterwagon to himself?

[Alyssa The Lamb]

and just to make it certain

I think GIF as scum would be well aware that pushing me in this situation is suicide.

[Farkran]

put it this way, Farkran

who do you think GIF would need to try to push as a counterwagon to himself?

At this point in time, it's klick. GIF is wking klick and accuses RCE (wagon leader on klick) of being cult.

[Alyssa The Lamb]

yeah but

there isn't a single wagon that

everybody

can agree with, every slot except for his has somebody thinking they're obvtown.

which does he try to override?

[Alyssa The Lamb]

I really struggle to see people replacing out of positions that are practically autowins tbh.

VOTE: Homura

It's a progression that a townie would have in this circumstance.

Also there are like 6 townreads and limiting your options isn't good for cult, especially when you're one of the hot topic slots of discussion
Meanwhile, town would do it because they believe it and want to solve

It was decent enough reasoning for the initial townbloc.

This doesn't square with "

pretty solid

N0 recruit" to me.
That factor should hold independent of the game since it was done N0.
If it had enough weight to townbloc someone then, it should have some weight now too - if you genuinely believed it I don't think you'd be dismissive of it to that extent.

It does have some weight
It doesn't make someone flat-out town
I can think its a towntell without thinking it clears Homura (or Chemist) as town
And Homura is scum via PoE

and relook at this progression too please

[Farkran]

Why wouldn't GIF team up with klick then, and vote Homura?

[Alyssa The Lamb]

1. towncred grab by targeting his counterwagon
2. it can't look too obvious
3. RCE is easier to push than Auro
4. nonzero chance of being able to get momentum onto RCE for a possible lynch

there's so much pressure on his slot that he has to do something drastic in order to derail the lynch off of himself. I don't think it's a coincidence that his four townreads are the top 4 post count players in the game, especially since he went out of his way to put more emphasis on defending his counterwagon and tried to push me as town in a way that really strikes me as trying not to look like a pocket

[Alyssa The Lamb]

it's entirely possible he's doing what I do when I replace into bad scumgames by just trying to look like motivated town solving and throwing out whatever he can come up with that sounds remotely believable

it's like

the stuff he comments on is so asinine and meaningless a lot of the time, he goes through the motions of getting townreads but doesn't PLAY like he's getting townreads

he's just not acting naturally

[Alyssa The Lamb]

I'm kinda struggling to articulate why his posting bugs me too

I don't think that really gets the point across

[Alyssa The Lamb]

I think I psyched myself into believing he just pulled his posts out of his ass rather than planning it

[Farkran]

I have just recently replaced into a bad scumslot in undertale, and i ontroduced myself by fighting hard against everyone, attacking my whole wagon and making pushes against literally everyone in the playerlist

But that's me.

I'm... not particularly sure that scum!GIF repping in attacks a UTR slot like RCE while wking the main counterwagon. Joining klick on Homura seems more efficient and believable as a strategy if he wants to avoid following his pred tracks (i.e. voting alyssa) and simultaneously also avoid attacking the easiest target.

Any step beyond this seems to be overthinking from your part.

I'd like to hear GIF comments on this, i'll reread tomorrow with a fresh mind and then cast my final vote

[Alyssa The Lamb]

tm large was a very different GIF than how he usually plays

[GuyInFreezer]

Oh then what made you think I was lying about public, verifiable information?

Lying about what?

Given that the only thing GIF could focus on was me and he calls me scum during his catchup

?

He has no scum reads yet

I did vote someone you know.

GIF saying he's not wanting to lynch me until day 2 at the earliest (with no read nonetheless) despite knowing immediately that lynch accuracy is important in this game is

...yeah

Knowing it exercising it are two different things~

put it this way, Farkran

who do you think GIF would need to try to push as a counterwagon to himself?

This should be irrelevant given who I am voting atm; someone who are townread by many instead of going after most-wagoned.

and just to make it certain

I think GIF as scum would be well aware that pushing me in this situation is suicide.

I avoid picking fights with those I don't want to spend my time fighting with regardless of my alignment period.

[GuyInFreezer]

Actually if y'all are having trouble reading me, I'll tell you something that maybe could help y'all.

I'm, in my very soul, lazy. Try to read me with that in mind.

[GuyInFreezer]

With that said, I have overindulged myself in FF14 today instead of playing this game so I have no energy to play this more tonight.

But I will explain why I voted RCE.
His first post was major scum red flag, and he have done basically nothing from his 52 posts. Basically active lurking.

[GuyInFreezer]

(Clearly the 52 posts part is retroactive. I voted him for the same reason why I voted him before so)

[RCEnigma]

With that said, I have overindulged myself in FF14 today instead of playing this game so I have no energy to play this more tonight.

But I will explain why I voted RCE.
His first post was major scum red flag, and he have done basically nothing from his 52 posts. Basically active lurking.

Expand.

[GuyInFreezer]

What is there to expand?
You pretty much have done nothing useful in your posts.

[Auro]

V/LA for a day

[RCEnigma]

Uhh. Ok.