Micro 930: Neon Mafia (Game over!)

[Datisi]

Official Vote Count 1.09

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With 9 votes in play, it takes 5 to lynch.

Lynching

Luca Blight

(2): Menalque, Quagsire

Quagsire

(2): skitter30, Captain the Furret

Heaven

(2): Alduskkel, Looker

nomnomnom

(1): Heaven

Alduskkel

(1): nomnomnom

Not Voting

(1): Luca Blight

Deadline:

(expired on 2020-03-31 12:15:00).

Mod notes:

• skitter30 standing V/LA Fridays and Saturdays & mental health V/LA.
  
• Luca Blight V/LA weekend.

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[Luca Blight]

Nom, you have the same two townreads that I expressed in my earlier post, which you heavily scumread me for.

Explain?

[nomnomnom]

It's not about who the townread themselves (aside from your townread on Ald earlier which I didn't get at all)
it's about how I perceived them as you had no conviction about them and that you only had a case on me as conviction, which felt like not your towngame

[Luca Blight]

Right.

But you’ve expressed you’re townreads with the exact same conviction with which i expressed them? And mine were just after RVS where a lack of conviction is more excusable.

[nomnomnom]

I'm not introspective enough to compare the way I play to yours tbh
I think this kind of question isn't going anywhere

[Luca Blight]

Here’s what I’ve got so far:

Heaven seems townie based on tone

I didn’t like Menalque’s Heaven vote, but he’s growing on me

Slight town read on Furret

Skitter makes sense

Nom is currently the best bet for scum out of the active posters, which I’ll elaborate on soon maybe

[Luca Blight]

because heaven felt town earlier
the slot doesn't strike me as a good lynch either, at all

town lean on furret

[nomnomnom]

I see what you mean
I like to think I'm able to detail my reads if need be
I just end up spamposting a lot and writing walls after walls so I prefer to state my opinions clearly and just detail if I'm asked to detail

[Luca Blight]

I'm not introspective enough to compare the way I play to yours tbh
I think this kind of question isn't going anywhere

It makes your push, which already seemed fake af, look even more fake tbh.

[Luca Blight]

Now imagine, Nom, if I took those two reads of yours and deathtunneled you for ‘giving out townreads left and right’.

How would you feel about such a push?

[Luca Blight]

I see what you mean
I like to think I'm able to detail my reads if need be
I just end up spamposting a lot and writing walls after walls so I prefer to state my opinions clearly and just detail if I'm asked to detail

That’s fine and I’m similar in that regard, but you weren’t interested in why I had those Tr’s - you never even asked me. You just focused on framing it as scummy.

[nomnomnom]

I would think it's stupid considered I talked about my reads earlier in the thread, both on Heaven and Furret
You're ignoring my past discussions about those slots, what I did with you was only reiterating my reads without adding anything

[Luca Blight]

But the conviction was what you found scummy.

If you were interested in the reasoning then why didn’t you ask me?

[Quagsire]

Payback's a VOTE: nomnomnom

S {Quag | Heaven/Nom | Aldus/Skitter/Menal | Captain/Luca}T

you have me as your strongest scum read yet you vote for noms? explain that for me

No one is scum alone. Besides, with D1's track record, it'd probably stay a vanity wagon.

looker's vote on noms feels more like it's driven by personal shit instead of actual reasons why they think noms is scum.

Are you purposely feeding into her narrative? It's expected for Nom to insult me, but not really you.

okay but you're not even trying to push me or question my stances. like it's not really a vanity when we still have time for other wagons to form. so if you think i'm scum, then you should be pushing me or trying to start a wagon on me, especially when others have expressed concerns about me.

i wasn't insulting you but okay. my point on your noms vote still stands.

[nomnomnom]

But the conviction was what you found scummy.

If you were interested in the reasoning then why didn’t you ask me?

because I'm an impulsive player and you not voting me after that case, after that I was like "I'm voting your ass"

[nomnomnom]

I'm really not good sorting by logic
sometimes when I ask people's reads I feel like I make no progress
I definitely prefer judging by reaction and I wanted your reaction to me going aggro on you

[Quagsire]

My main gripe with Luca's claim is that if he's really neap the fact that I'm neighbor with furret creates a lot of false positives, and I'm not sure if this is deliberate game design or just a fakeclaim
but it sure does feel like a fakeclaim, especially considering that neighbors aren't that much power and straight up delve into negative utility territory if we actually have a neap this game

so luca claimed macho neap and you are in a hood with furret

if true that claim probably does fit from a game design perspective. however i think it does ~slightly~ increase the chance that someone in the hood is scum.

if it's not a fake claim, then him claiming the macho probably guarantees that he dies. either way i'm not lynching that claim

UNVOTE:

[Luca Blight]

So were you exaggerating your scumread to gauge my reaction? @Nom

[Quagsire]

Jumping on someone as the tide is turning against them is the very essence of opportunism.

Before that he seemed to side with me over you. How can you not see that? Is it TMI?

i did? where did i side with you because i don't remember that

[Luca Blight]

I already explained that: you made negative comments about Nom and none about me until I was suspected, hence it ‘seemed’ as though you sided with me as opposed to with Nom.

[nomnomnom]

So were you exaggerating your scumread to gauge my reaction? @Nom

I thought you were scum but I definitely put myself hardcore on this 1v1 instead of sitting back

[Quagsire]

I already explained that: you made negative comments about Nom and none about me until I was suspected, hence it ‘seemed’ as though you sided with me as opposed to with Nom.

i did make negative comments about nom, but i ultimately ended up townreading her (still do). you were null for me up until that point.

[Quagsire]

I find it virtually impossible to believe anything. With the end result, scum could just as easily be Luca and nom. Besides, until we have a flip, most of this is fluff and bullshit anyway. You feed into your own paranoia while the actual scum just sit and watch. It's mildly irritating.

lmao luca and nom are definitely not svs

[Datisi]

Heaven is being replaced for inactivity. If he posts before I find someone, he can stay.

[Luca Blight]

So you did exaggerate it?

How sure were you that I was scum? @nom