BooneyToonz UPick: Boon There, Done That [END]

[Krazy Katz]

Krazy is claimed miller

claimed miller and uncc'd target of scum debuff?

-K

[The Fonz]

I'm gonna give very little effort in mafiascum games until Thursday, because health worker. Sorry all.

[davesaz]

Please give very much effort on staying safe!

[sore feet]

Spoiler: boring mech stuff

N1 cop claims (9/17):
VM
KK
RCE
fonz
GB
dave
jjh

nom
KA

-all living cop claims have no result n1 on a sticky fruit claim
-all claim sticky n1 excluding GB, titus, BTE

poisonous barb - prevents receipt of other items?
D1 barbs:
vecna - kept?
GB - kept, "dissolved"
fonz - sent to titus

stuffed elephant - ??
sticky fruit - appears to block actions, but not items (consistent with LNT).
virus - claimed effect differs from rolecard, actually rerolls role and align.

Venus and Mars - n1 cop, grifter
Sore feet - ??
The Fonz - n1 cop, basic boon
Chkflip - hit by virus, rerolled role and alignment, day X survivor
RCEnigma - n1 cop, N2 received stuffed elephant
Conspire - ??
Davesaz - n1 cop, sent item to SF n1, not received
Krazy Katz - n1 cop, cursed miller, hit by virus, rerolled role
Michael Scott - ??
Jjh927 - n1 cop, received both sticky and another item N1, nothing N2, needs 3 items, "there is a delayed vig in the game" (could this be noms numbers thing?)
George Bailey - n1 cop
BooneyToonzExpert - D1 3x barb gifter, N1 compulsive sitcky vendor
Chronos - ??

basic boon and complex - im not convinced these are anything other than arbitrary descriptors attached to some roles. no one has claimed complex (yet), so its possible anyone who isnt explicitly a basic boon is complex.

points of contention:
KK no result on titus, nom result on titus
dave send item to SF n1, SF receives only sticky n1

what if the virus effect on the rolecard is real, and the new info from the mod sent to KK and chkflip is the lie?
otherwise the situation with chkflip is very awkward and very bastard
i think cops were intended as a troll with the anti synergy of compulsive global sticky, but real and reliable if result received
i suspect the stickys would have gone out n1 even with BTE dead (otherwise lynching him D1 is broken overpowered)
the 3 barbs allow max 3 results, i expect there is scum who legitimately have the "n1 cop" ability or a variation on it

[sore feet]

@fonz, what are your thoughts on chkflip?

[chkflip]

Yeah, so, I had a long chat with Boon about the wording of the virus after we lynched Titus. Apparently I was hugely mistaken about the alignment part because it was incredibly, well, vague in its description. I think KK can attest to that. We didn't even know we couldn't pass the damn thing (I was told as well that this wasn't a thing). It did nerf me... but I'm stupid and read that it nerfed more than it did.

My bad, y'all.

It's still incredibly bastard to vanillaize without outwardly stating that in the PM though. That's ridiculous and I'm still pretty peeved about it. But I'll take a look at Titus' posts and see if I find something there soon. I already noticed she steered clear of wagons and nobody followed her, so not much to say on that front..

[sore feet]

i believe it
im glad i dont have to think about lynching you to preserve your town win con any more

[The Fonz]

@fonz, what are your thoughts on chkflip?

Hard TR. I thought overnight that the inconsistency between chk and KK was problematic and might have meant KK was lying, but now he's admitted to misreading that's not so much a thing.

Do you still want BTE specifically to claim?

I'm thinking Chronos might be scum. Their play is completely unmemorable to me, and people who are hard null to me this late are pretty often scum. I also don't see any real evidence of town motive from George. I don't really suspect Dave so much any more based off the basic Boon thing.

[sore feet]

Do you still want BTE specifically to claim?

i wanted the sticky ability claimed, which he has done
my suspicion was he was a global sticky vendor, but not everyone claimed a sticky so i wanted the exact nature of the ability made explicit
if there is more to his role then no, he need not claim

Hard TR. I thought overnight that the inconsistency between chk and KK was problematic and might have meant KK was lying, but now he's admitted to misreading that's not so much a thing.

okay.
i asked due to your comment on massclaim wrt to chkflips claim, but since that's been updated we need not discuss further.

[chkflip]

A lot of Titus' early posting about the Auro/Chronos/me posts look like they were setting up a future bus if they had to.

My vote's in the right place. Cool cool cool.

[Krazy Katz]

x has duckling given any spicy hottakes on who scum is?

-k

[sore feet]

no
if theres something you'd like me to ask i can aggressively prod him?

[The Fonz]

A lot of Titus' early posting about the Auro/Chronos/me posts look like they were setting up a future bus if they had to.

My vote's in the right place. Cool cool cool.

The only thing is that Titus is *aggressively* aware of the rule of three and brings it up all the time.

[chkflip]

Right, which explains why she didn't mention all three of us again and stuck with Auro/me in later posts. People slip all the time, man.

[The Fonz]

Right, which explains why she didn't mention all three of us again and stuck with Auro/me in later posts. People slip all the time, man.

Well, I suspect Chronos anyway as detailed above. I'm off to work, let's just do this.

VOTE: Chronos

[Krazy Katz]

no
if theres something you'd like me to ask i can aggressively prod him?

Nothing specific

Like ideally a readslist but just a few top scum would be good

-k

[Auro]

VOTE: Chronos
it good

[Michael Scott]

VOTE: Chronos
it good

[chkflip]

If you guys are just gonna sheep me, can we go VnM instead?

[davesaz]

Scum Titus is experienced enough to use the situation to try to lay down negative associations with a partner.

I don't think George voting that fast and then unvoting awkwardly would be a Titus neg-associative plan.

What if it was a "there's a guilty" bus followed by the realisation that mechanics in this game are fucky and he might not have to bus?

So I was feeling this too. Is there some reason that we're dropping it?

VOTE: George Bailey

[chkflip]

Real disappointed you're going for low-hanging fruit, dave.

[BooneyToonzExpert]

Do you still want BTE specifically to claim?

i wanted the sticky ability claimed, which he has done
my suspicion was he was a global sticky vendor, but not everyone claimed a sticky so i wanted the exact nature of the ability made explicit
if there is more to his role then no, he need not claim

Everyone should have got some fruit. After reading both Titus' and Nomnom's PMs I don't see what could have stopped Titus from getting the fruit but there must be something out there.

[davesaz]

Real disappointed you're going for low-hanging fruit, dave.

Why do you think it's low-hanging fruit?

[chkflip]

Heavy newb!town vibes, my dude.

Why George over Chronos?

[jjh927]

You're getting those vibes from George enough to call him low hanging fruit but you're voting Chronos?