Open 775: Hard-Boiled Eggs [Game Over]

[Battle Mage]

I don't like the Battle Mage vs DkKoba conflict. Both feel like egotistical players not willing to back down from a challenge. Either could be scum or town from what I've seen. I really don't understand battle mage's argument that because dkkoba said he's new but is also aggressive that means he's scum, though.

That wasn't my argument. The argument is basically:

Dkkoba very aggressive/emotional language and very confident about reads.
Dkkoba has little reason to be that confident in reads, so I'm not convinced it's legit.
The fact Dkkoba started the game passive and became aggressive very quickly is also odd. Although that could be a personality trait perhaps.

Does it mean he's

definitely

scum? Of course not, but at this stage it's a good enough reason for a vote.

I think there's some merit to the suggestion that Allomancer has been pretty non-committal so far, and playing very safe.

Allomancer, care to share some early insights?

And I echo post 118 - Hiraki, what are you talking about?

[DkKoba]

I don't like the Battle Mage vs DkKoba conflict. Both feel like egotistical players not willing to back down from a challenge. Either could be scum or town from what I've seen. I really don't understand battle mage's argument that because dkkoba said he's new but is also aggressive that means he's scum, though.

That wasn't my argument. The argument is basically:

Dkkoba very aggressive/emotional language and very confident about reads.
Dkkoba has little reason to be that confident in reads, so I'm not convinced it's legit.
The fact Dkkoba started the game passive and became aggressive very quickly is also odd. Although that could be a personality trait perhaps.

Does it mean he's

definitely

scum? Of course not, but at this stage it's a good enough reason for a vote.

I think there's some merit to the suggestion that Allomancer has been pretty non-committal so far, and playing very safe.

Allomancer, care to share some early insights?

And I echo post 118 - Hiraki, what are you talking about?

Before i think about replying imma point out my pronoun is right there under my avi, not hard to see.

[Aloratom]

In my experience with DkKoba, this is normal for them so I don't have a scum read there.

I don't understand the Allomancer wagon. 72offsuit, why do you go after It for "all information, no reads" when that's pretty much what everyone had been doing to that point? And Dolittle slides a vote in on Allomancer too without even a how ya doin'.

[Allomancer]

I don't like the Battle Mage vs DkKoba conflict. Both feel like egotistical players not willing to back down from a challenge. Either could be scum or town from what I've seen. I really don't understand battle mage's argument that because dkkoba said he's new but is also aggressive that means he's scum, though.

That wasn't my argument. The argument is basically:

Dkkoba very aggressive/emotional language and very confident about reads.
Dkkoba has little reason to be that confident in reads, so I'm not convinced it's legit.
The fact Dkkoba started the game passive and became aggressive very quickly is also odd. Although that could be a personality trait perhaps.

Does it mean he's

definitely

scum? Of course not, but at this stage it's a good enough reason for a vote.

I think there's some merit to the suggestion that Allomancer has been pretty non-committal so far, and playing very safe.

Allomancer, care to share some early insights?

I feel like the fact that Dkkoba is new makes it more likely he's confident, because new players could easily be overconfident. I know I was when I joined this site.

As for why I was setup speccing, it's because it was early in the game and I didn't have any reads yet.

[Aloratom]

Don't tell me that I'm that old. And even older than that.

You're ancient and so is Marshall Matthers, lol

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• I know nothing of setup spec, so I stay out of it.
  
• We need to lynch everyone without an avatar
  
• @72: Hiraki's avatar is 9S from NieR:Automata. It's a really fun game.

VOTE: Madoka Hey!

I've got my eye on you.

[DkKoba]

In my experience with DkKoba, this is normal for them so I don't have a scum read there.

I don't understand the Allomancer wagon. 72offsuit, why do you go after It for "all information, no reads" when that's pretty much what everyone had been doing to that point? And Dolittle slides a vote in on Allomancer too without even a how ya doin'.

I don't like the Battle Mage vs DkKoba conflict. Both feel like egotistical players not willing to back down from a challenge. Either could be scum or town from what I've seen. I really don't understand battle mage's argument that because dkkoba said he's new but is also aggressive that means he's scum, though.

That wasn't my argument. The argument is basically:

Dkkoba very aggressive/emotional language and very confident about reads.
Dkkoba has little reason to be that confident in reads, so I'm not convinced it's legit.
The fact Dkkoba started the game passive and became aggressive very quickly is also odd. Although that could be a personality trait perhaps.

Does it mean he's

definitely

scum? Of course not, but at this stage it's a good enough reason for a vote.

I think there's some merit to the suggestion that Allomancer has been pretty non-committal so far, and playing very safe.

Allomancer, care to share some early insights?

I feel like the fact that Dkkoba is new makes it more likely he's confident, because new players could easily be overconfident. I know I was when I joined this site.

As for why I was setup speccing, it's because it was early in the game and I didn't have any reads yet.

I'm confident bc I have 4 years of mafia experience, not bc I'm new.

[Battle Mage]

Allomancer - do you still not have any reads? I got the sense you might have a scumread on me, as I'm the only person you've come close to indicating suspicion of.

Dkkoba - Apologies on the pronoun thing - It's not something I've ever really paid attention to, but will try to remember if it bothers you.

[Hiraki]

1. What did u mean by not good?

It wasn't a good post.

2. What do u mean by VI i take it back?

Village Idiot.

VOTE: allomancer
wagon

Can you help me? I don't see it.

I don't like the Battle Mage vs DkKoba conflict. Both feel like egotistical players not willing to back down from a challenge. Either could be scum or town from what I've seen. I really don't understand battle mage's argument that because dkkoba said he's new but is also aggressive that means he's scum, though.

Yeah, I definitely don't see this slot flipping scum right now.

Don't tell me that I'm that old. And even older than that.

You're ancient and so is Marshall Matthers, lol

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• I know nothing of setup spec, so I stay out of it.
  
• We need to lynch everyone without an avatar
  
• @72: Hiraki's avatar is 9S from NieR:Automata. It's a really fun game.

VOTE: Madoka Hey!

I've got my eye on you.

Would prefer a better explanation here.

[Aloratom]

Don't tell me that I'm that old. And even older than that.

You're ancient and so is Marshall Matthers, lol

---

• I know nothing of setup spec, so I stay out of it.
  
• We need to lynch everyone without an avatar
  
• @72: Hiraki's avatar is 9S from NieR:Automata. It's a really fun game.

VOTE: Madoka Hey!

I've got my eye on you.

Would prefer a better explanation here.

Joking around.

[Hiraki]

Ah, got it. IGMEOY is a mafia term - just wasn't sure if it was being used for that purpose. I see what it means now. Carry on everyone.

[Aloratom]

Oh, I didn't know that. I'm behind the Mafia game jargon learning curve.

[Madoka]

@72: Hiraki's avatar is 9S from NieR:Automata. It's a really fun game.

I've been stuck on the first 10 minutes because I keep getting killed in one hit and I don't know what I'm doing and I can't save and have to keep starting over and I started the game on the hardest difficulty because I was tired of games being too easy on normal mode.

Also hi

[Madoka]

Does anyone else have this problem?

It's the site.

Hider claims don't cross target. The tracker can figure out the hider between the two via night actions and the hider knows the counterclaim is scum.

The way hider + tracker work in this setup is essentially a cop in combination.

Hider doesn't have to out their targets. Tracker follows the hider and if the hider lives the person they visited is a green check. If the hider dies and there is a nightkill then it's a red check.

Scum can't counterclaim hider in the setup. They can CC tracker but only if they successfully lynch the hider since he can corroborate the targets.

Now this sounds like you are encouraging scum to CC hider -_-

How so? Scum is very free to do so. It just makes a town win that much easier to achieve.

Ok.

What made you feel they were attempting to get scum to CC?

I don't like dkkoba's vote either. orange just joined the site a week ago, so I don't think him being wrong about setup spec of all things makes him scum.

Do you think they are a new player based on their posts?

[DrDolittle]

I'm not sold on allomancer scum, but I think a wagon there can do good things

[Hiraki]

Ech. Not a fan of that after thinking about it for a moment.

[Madoka]

I'm not sold on allomancer scum, but I think a wagon there can do good things

Why did you vote tet initially?

Yeah, I definitely don't see this slot flipping scum right now.

What about his post makes you think he's town?

[Hiraki]

He states that it's town vs scum but his wording makes it sound like town v town. I don't see scum making that move too often and, if so, it's calculated. That post feels off the cuffs.

[Battle Mage]

1. What did u mean by not good?

It wasn't a good post.

2. What do u mean by VI i take it back?

Village Idiot.

Hold on....so all that was just a coded way to call me an idiot? keep it classy, and feel free to share some more fascinating insights with the group

[Madoka]

He states that it's town vs scum but his wording makes it sound like town v town. I don't see scum making that move too often and, if so, it's calculated. That post feels off the cuffs.

Where does he say it's town vs scum?

[BrightEyedFish]

Vote count 1.3

72offsuit (1)

- Hiraki

happyorange (2)

- ejjinami, DkKoba

DkKoba (1)

- Battle Mage

Allomancer (3)

- Tet, 72offsuit, DrDolittle

Madoka (1)

- Looker

not voting (7) -

Madoka, Allomancer, Aloratom, happyorange, clidd

with 13 alive, it's 7 to lynch

deadline:

(expired on 2020-04-11 09:00:00)

mod notes:

still searching for a clidd replacement
MS website is REALLY slow for me as well.
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[BrightEyedFish]

Iconeum replaces clidd.

[Iconeum]

Rawr!

[Iconeum]

Hider claims don't cross target. The tracker can figure out the hider between the two via night actions and the hider knows the counterclaim is scum.

The way hider + tracker work in this setup is essentially a cop in combination.

Hider doesn't have to out their targets. Tracker follows the hider and if the hider lives the person they visited is a green check. If the hider dies and there is a nightkill then it's a red check.

Scum can't counterclaim hider in the setup. They can CC tracker but only if they successfully lynch the hider since he can corroborate the targets.

Now this sounds like you are encouraging scum to CC hider -_-

and you think that's a scummy thing to do? you think he's telling his buddies to CC when the time comes? why do that public and not in PT?

also why are you pushing allomancer based on setup spec when

literally the entire game so far has been exactly that

?

[Iconeum]

I don't like the Battle Mage vs DkKoba conflict. Both feel like egotistical players not willing to back down from a challenge. Either could be scum or town from what I've seen. I really don't understand battle mage's argument that because dkkoba said he's new but is also aggressive that means he's scum, though.

That wasn't my argument. The argument is basically:

Dkkoba very aggressive/emotional language and very confident about reads.
Dkkoba has little reason to be that confident in reads, so I'm not convinced it's legit.
The fact Dkkoba started the game passive and became aggressive very quickly is also odd. Although that could be a personality trait perhaps.

Does it mean he's

definitely

scum? Of course not, but at this stage it's a good enough reason for a vote.

I think there's some merit to the suggestion that Allomancer has been pretty non-committal so far, and playing very safe.

Allomancer, care to share some early insights?

And I echo post 118 - Hiraki, what are you talking about?

This just feels like ur inexperienced here? I don't mean that in a bad way. But being very confident in an early read does not mean it's not genuine. I've not seen you examinate the exact part where he went from passive to aggressive?

Case that part for me will ya?

[Iconeum]

@72, if you think allomancer looks bad because of that, why aren't you pushing other players for the same reason? I'm sure there are others here who have done nothing but talk about mech or even not that