mini 2126: the game is OVRE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[OkaPoka]

lol eddie don't be fucking ridiculous

i respect you the most out of this entire playerlist and given you three weeks to coast and in post game you'll see i protected you at night because i think your the best player and you've done jack squat to deserve a single townread this game

your AtE right now is bullshit coming from someone who "doesn't give a fuck" and frankly I regret giving you the courtesy of letting you get away with coasting away this game until it dies

[Auro]

his read on SS is the weirdest thing from him to me.

Let's just say I like SS

Pedit: Oooh

[Alchemist21]

1) 0 people have spoken up to defend and/or town read me, all game, except dannflor who's read was super over the top day 1 and looked like spew

You agree with me on this so vote Dannflor with me.

VOTE: Dannflor

[OkaPoka]

sigh

[Something_Smart]

Eddie those are pretty much all terrible reasons, especially the premise that your partners wouldn't be bussing you here.

[Eddie Cane]

1) 0 people have spoken up to defend and/or town read me, all game, except dannflor who's read was super over the top day 1 and looked like spew

You agree with me on this so vote Dannflor with me.

VOTE: Dannflor

i'm moving away from wanting to kill you, but i very much want to kill a voter on me. dann is a better wagon that most of the game though.

Eddie those are pretty much all terrible reasons, especially the premise that your partners wouldn't be bussing you here.

so you agree we should be killing a voter on me then!

[Auro]

Eddie, help me see town!Alch.

Dann's getting replaced, we should let the replacement post.

[Something_Smart]

I would be fine with killing a specific voter on you, namely Dany.

[OkaPoka]

well played Eddie

well played

[Eddie Cane]

Eddie, help me see town!Alch.

Dann's getting replaced, we should let the replacement post.

see town!Alch? I was just voting him 2 pages ago. him not being on my wagon + pushing dann for a pretty good reason is the towniest thing about him from my pov.

[Eddie Cane]

lol eddie don't be fucking ridiculous

i respect you the most out of this entire playerlist and given you three weeks to coast and in post game you'll see i protected you at night because i think your the best player and you've done jack squat to deserve a single townread this game

your AtE right now is bullshit coming from someone who "doesn't give a fuck" and frankly I regret giving you the courtesy of letting you get away with coasting away this game until it dies

protecting the cop is a good play

[Eddie Cane]

why do the gunsmiths not exist

[Auro]

How do we know you're not a traitor, Eddie?

[Eddie Cane]

How do we know you're not a traitor, Eddie?

i actually have a good answer to this even though you're joking

i have been waiting my entire mafiascum career to roll traitor, i am very excited for it. this is not very excited about his role eddie.

[PenguinPower]

How do we know you're not a traitor, Eddie?

Why did you unvote Eddie...

[OkaPoka]

How do we know you're not a traitor, Eddie?

Why did you unvote Eddie...

[Auro]

I'm not comfortable voting him rn. You can find others to join.

[Eddie Cane]

Eddie those are pretty much all terrible reasons

they aren't! I am bored and I am going to go through who my partners could be because I like talking about myself, though.

SS - pretty clearly not with him, with how he's talking about me
Oka - pretty clearly not with him, with how he's talking about me
Dannslot - he gave a very clearly not partner read on me day 1, that could arguably be scum spewing a town (or town!Dann having a good read)
Comical - pretty clearly not with him with our interactions before/around his claim
Alchemist - meh, I've pushed him quite a bit, think its a stretch to pair us, as if he's my partner its completely unnecessary to push him given gamestate
Dany - this is actually probably my least likely partner in the game. i chose not to hammer him, so if we were partners, we were aligning. except that's not the case, because he very happily voted me, has had me as a scum read consistently, and did not vote Oka, who had wagoned him. so it doesn't really work in either world.

Auro, who let the wagon get up to l-1 on me, with penguin threatening to hammer me, and did not flinch? And I think out interactions are pretty not partnery all game either way.
Luna, I guess could be scum bussing me
RCE, who is a pretty universal town read
Penguin, sure, this one works.

There are different ways to evaluate mafia. But eventually, you'll realize that almost everyone has =rand reads, long term. The way to edge a high win % out is to gain advantages in other ways. Some players like RC make themselves unlynchable as either alignment, a massive advantage to overall win %. Some players like NSG don't try as scum, a massive advantage to town games. Other than that, you can choose mechanical stuff, like analyzing for partner interactions. Because you might not be able to independently find scum, but you find not-scum partners, and parse reads in other ways. Occam's razor means if I have this few potential partners, I am probably just town. Tunnels are a thing, and/or frustration at previous play, or a comment I made, or whatever it is. These are similar to policy lynches, and help scum win games. It is tough for you to not want to vote me! Because if I am scum, I have played like a turd all game, and open wolfed trolled on your asses. So you'd rather, consciously or subconsciously, lose to somebody who's playing the game, rather than somebody who it would just be embarassing to lose to, even though there's no real reason to think I'm scum. The argument "scum would be bussing me" doesn't hold water, because the two most universally tr'd people are not voting me, and if one of them is scum that makes me town, and if one is scum with me then they are not bussing and you're wrong anyways! These are the things you'll pick up eventually. Mafia is more than "this person sounds townie".

[Auro]

Eddie-Luna-Penguin 3/3 confirmed

[Auro]

Eddie, I don't see why RCE is a townread at all.
Can you also tell me who you think Alch's partners would be if he's scum?

[PenguinPower]

I'm not comfortable voting him rn. You can find others to join.

Um...obviously. What changed?

[Something_Smart]

Dany - this is actually probably my least likely partner in the game. i chose not to hammer him, so if we were partners, we were aligning. except that's not the case, because he very happily voted me, has had me as a scum read consistently, and did not vote Oka, who had wagoned him. so it doesn't really work in either world.

I strongly disagree with this, actually. If you're scum, you're obviously not aiming to live very long, and dropping two lolhammers one of which was on scum wouldn't really save you.

[Eddie Cane]

Dany - this is actually probably my least likely partner in the game. i chose not to hammer him, so if we were partners, we were aligning. except that's not the case, because he very happily voted me, has had me as a scum read consistently, and did not vote Oka, who had wagoned him. so it doesn't really work in either world.

I strongly disagree with this, actually. If you're scum, you're obviously not aiming to live very long, and dropping two lolhammers one of which was on scum wouldn't really save you.

Do you want the wifom rebuttal or the mechanical rebuttal?

[Auro]

Um...obviously. What changed?

I'm not seeing the scum motivation in coasting.

Meanwhile, could it be a good idea to have everyone with guns claim?

[PenguinPower]

But you were a page ago?