ok so how is RCE saying "This feels like Chemist from Magical Girls"In post 602, Torque wrote:viewtopic.php?f=3&t=80832&user_select[]=32643
Chemist hydra's ISO in magical girls, he's the wind head, he was scum there
If anything I think scum Chemist is much less IDGAF than town chemist
Please explain your vote, I need you to be more readable. Thank you <3In post 605, Hiraki wrote:Thanks for pointing that out. I am reading but I am not doing a good job of showing it.
For your first question, I don't. I'm not townreading Natirisha either so I don't know what the point of your question here is. You can agree with something and not actually agree with the person's role.In post 542, L and Light wrote:~Why do you believe that Natirisha's vote is in any way real or representative of an actual scum read, rather than just a joke, and why is your justification of your current vote that you are sheeping a naked vote from someone else?~In post 512, Hiraki wrote:Actually, upon re-read, I found my real vote. Kind of sheeping Natirisha but I'd like to go into it tomorrow (130 here). I'm not sold on YaT yet. I'm like 90% there and still on the tetering edge and I feel like if they flip scum, I'm just gonna hate mysellf a little more.
Vote: Norwegian
-Light
I can justify my vote, I just need patience which I have and it's coming, I swear. You saw a little blip of it before - just ironically busy at home and I find this game hard to read and really analyze. I like this vote and I'd like to convince more people that it's a good vote too.
exciting, isn’t it?In post 625, Wonderful Deceit wrote:ok so how is RCE saying "This feels like Chemist from Magical Girls"In post 602, Torque wrote:viewtopic.php?f=3&t=80832&user_select[]=32643
Chemist hydra's ISO in magical girls, he's the wind head, he was scum there
If anything I think scum Chemist is much less IDGAF than town chemist
and you are saying
"In Magical Girls, Chemist was a lot more IDGAF and I would expect him to act like that here"
Like, how are you 2 getting compeltely different conclusions from meta?
None of this was said earlier and now it just seems like an excuse, given that you attacked Kerset before you explained that you were just playing ignorantly and that you're not responsible for your ignorance.In post 609, L and Light wrote:~I am not of the same mind as my partner. As of now, we have not communicated much, and frankly, I had no idea where our vote was, if our vote was anywhere,In post 591, Enter wrote:This, for example, is a post that you made only a couple posts before Kerset voted for you where you seem to be defending Ali, but your vote is maintained there.In post 397, L and Light wrote:~by defensive what exactly do you meanIn post 378, NorwegianboyEE wrote:I don't think i've seen Alisae get so defensive when attacked like that. They seemed to be a bit taken back by Enter's sudden aggressiveness.
I know I've seen Ali push back hard and aggressively when they get pushed
also is being defensive AI in your opinion, if you've never seen it before?
-Light
Yet, when pushed, your excuse is not that you didn't know your vote was there, but instead that you weren't actually playing the game, you were just chilling, you didn't expect anyone to get lynched. When pushed, your response is that the person pushing you is being scummy.
This is exactly the point Kerset's making. If this statement is true, why didn't you move your vote? I'm aware of your ignorance above, I'm simply explaining why this statement in no way justifies your responses here.nor did I have any reads at the time of posting that MADE ME want to vote someone.
See above.I am not going to "take away" a vote that at the time of me being in thread, I didn't know was there.
If you weren't, it was wolfy.was I ignorant of my hydra's vote? Yes, perhaps I was ignorant.
No one is claiming you're being opportunistic for being ignorant. In fact, the argument made against you is that you WEREN'T ignorant, and given the fact that you didn't say anything about not knowing the vote was there until I suggested otherwise, this claim seems a bit faked.Is it wolfy, or unexpected, that I would NOT change a vote that I am ignorant of? no, and framing it as such in an "opportunistic" mindset is the issue here.
This is excuse for shitty play.Yes, after the fact of being pushed, and discussing a bit with my hydra partner, I did realize the vote was there, which is why it is not the "ignorant" part that I am pushing back on, but rather the claim of being "opportunistic"
This is one reason why this is scummy.
I also was not worried about the vote count, for the reason that I'm not worried about a quick hammer.
And still you maintained your vote there with absolutely no read on the person you had your vote on.If there was fear of a quick hammer, I would expect there to be some commotion in the thread about people taking off votes and/or SPECIFIC requests to take off votes; and yet, there was nothing.
I think you think she's saying you're ignorant of your vote. And I think she's saying you're pretending to be ignorant of the fact that the person you have absolutely no read on (and are even defending) is at L-2. If she isn't saying it, I am.
So, Ignorant? Perhaps.
wutFraming it as opportunistic? no.
-Light
What are you doing?In post 619, Natirasha wrote:Reading is overrated go with your heart.
fun factIn post 231, Yshtola and Tataru wrote:Stop bullying me. Bully Ank instead. She hates lalafells.
@Norwee: I mean the posts that had spoilers that you quoted.
-Tataru
I pinged herIn post 628, Chemist1422 wrote:exciting, isn’t it?In post 625, Wonderful Deceit wrote:ok so how is RCE saying "This feels like Chemist from Magical Girls"In post 602, Torque wrote:viewtopic.php?f=3&t=80832&user_select[]=32643
Chemist hydra's ISO in magical girls, he's the wind head, he was scum there
If anything I think scum Chemist is much less IDGAF than town chemist
and you are saying
"In Magical Girls, Chemist was a lot more IDGAF and I would expect him to act like that here"
Like, how are you 2 getting compeltely different conclusions from meta?
can I ask whether mastina’s read on me has any separate logic from ali’s?
Nope.In post 610, L and Light wrote:In post 594, Enter wrote:To be honest, I get the hesitation around Chemist, but you'll have to forgive me for not caring if a player who isn't going to play and won't replace out expects to make it anywhere. The worst and most disgusting way to lose is to someone who didn't play at all.In post 597, Enter wrote:I've only played w/ him once before but I haven't seen him put in effort yet.
~You think that after simply playing with Chemist once you have a good idea of the amount of effort chemist will/is willing to put into a game is indicative of the effort of every game?
If that's what you drew here, you're jumping to conclusions a bit too quickly for my taste.Given the confidence of the first post, you seem like you have knowledge of Chemist's meta,
This statement is based off Chemist's shown disinterest in this game. You're grossly misinterpreting if you've got something else.confidently stating "IF a player who isn't going to play and won't replace out expects to make it anywhere"
I agree.People play differently in different games, and having only one game of experience of someone should not be enough for you to obtain such "confident" meta on someone.
I agree.One game is not a productive use of evidence with someone like chemist,
Not on this site he doesn't.who probably has 90+ games under his belt. ~
-Light
I don't see point in arguing with you but don't put things to my mouth.In post 607, L and Light wrote:Spoiler:
~Yes, I very much am pushing back on Kerset for stating that leaving our vote on a person who was at L-2 is "opportunistic" given the context. As I stated in the post if you were to look carefully. And if you were to read further into Kerset's response to us, they gave no justification of the fact that we should have been worried about a quick hammer, except for that AFTER their vote, RCE said "I will quick hammer if put to L-1"
something that occurred post-vote is what Kerset used as justification, which shows a lack of proper justification and an opportunistic push within itself. Yes, our hydra left our vote on someone at L-2. that is objective fact.
The motivation applied to that action by Kerset, as "opportunistic ignorance" is opportunistic given, once again, the context and approach that we have taken. ~
-Light
I thought they did (but this might have been someone else)In post 638, Wonderful Deceit wrote:legit half of the game isn't playing and the mod didn't check activity overview to send a prod out to adu
In post 587, Tatsuya Kaname wrote:Prodding one player. They have (expired on 2020-04-10 23:29:21) to get back in before they are replaced.
he gave one prod alreadyIn post 638, Wonderful Deceit wrote:legit half of the game isn't playing and the mod didn't check activity overview to send a prod out to adu
Do you happen to over commit or something?In post 635, Chemist1422 wrote:80+ on ToS
Probably somewhere around that number on MU
I think I’m at like 30 or 40 here
overcommitting to mafia is my passionIn post 642, Kerset wrote:Do you happen to over commit or something?In post 635, Chemist1422 wrote:80+ on ToS
Probably somewhere around that number on MU
I think I’m at like 30 or 40 here
Your other head is not playing as well.In post 623, Wonderful Deceit wrote:The game is boring because no one wants to play it and scum aren't playing to try and keep it this way.In post 593, Torque wrote:I think I can see why Ali says Chem isn't probing people or whatever and that makes him a wolf
I've only compared his ISO in the normal we just played and this game tho, this game's gamestate feels more boring than that other game probably plays a large part in how he's been acting differently. I doubt it's all that alignment indicative at this point.
In post 284, Wonderful Deceit wrote:I don't exactly have a read on them atm but gun to head town? They're getting wagoned pretty easily and it doesn't feel natural to me.In post 269, AbuHumaid wrote:@Wonderful Deceit mind telling what you think of Yshtola and Tataru?
were these different hydra heads orIn post 574, Wonderful Deceit wrote:Pretty much, yeah.In post 283, AbuHumaid wrote:Honestly it did grow fast, but that doesn't really mean much
People think "oh, fast wagon, must be bad", but that instinctive gut-reaction is honestly just...bad. Speed of the wagon is honestly 97% of the time utterly meaningless--doesn't make the wagon more likely to contain scum, doesn't make the person wagoned more likely to be town.
she thinks my points are valid.In post 632, Wonderful Deceit wrote:I pinged herIn post 628, Chemist1422 wrote:exciting, isn’t it?In post 625, Wonderful Deceit wrote:ok so how is RCE saying "This feels like Chemist from Magical Girls"In post 602, Torque wrote:viewtopic.php?f=3&t=80832&user_select[]=32643
Chemist hydra's ISO in magical girls, he's the wind head, he was scum there
If anything I think scum Chemist is much less IDGAF than town chemist
and you are saying
"In Magical Girls, Chemist was a lot more IDGAF and I would expect him to act like that here"
Like, how are you 2 getting compeltely different conclusions from meta?
can I ask whether mastina’s read on me has any separate logic from ali’s?
yesIn post 647, Chemist1422 wrote:In post 284, Wonderful Deceit wrote:I don't exactly have a read on them atm but gun to head town? They're getting wagoned pretty easily and it doesn't feel natural to me.In post 269, AbuHumaid wrote:@Wonderful Deceit mind telling what you think of Yshtola and Tataru?
were these different hydra heads orIn post 574, Wonderful Deceit wrote:Pretty much, yeah.In post 283, AbuHumaid wrote:Honestly it did grow fast, but that doesn't really mean much
People think "oh, fast wagon, must be bad", but that instinctive gut-reaction is honestly just...bad. Speed of the wagon is honestly 97% of the time utterly meaningless--doesn't make the wagon more likely to contain scum, doesn't make the person wagoned more likely to be town.
