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Post Post #1000 (ISO) » Fri Apr 24, 2020 10:47 am

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Anyway, in other news, Hectic is scum.
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Post Post #1001 (ISO) » Fri Apr 24, 2020 10:56 am

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In post 992, Elsa Jay wrote:I don't even know what traitor crumb your talking about anyway. Do you mean me bringing up the idea the neighborhood could've been for the traitor to talk to the main group scum?
Not "just" that. You did mention it AGAIN a couple of posts later, and then AGAIN addressing PK
In post 162, Elsa Jay wrote:the hoods would probably be used to allow a traitor to talk to their teammates otherwise if they kill the other person in said hood.
Initial mention that could be seen as justified setup spec
In post 248, Elsa Jay wrote:I almost wanna say a traitor is a given
Second time which is more assertive there is one.
In post 255, Elsa Jay wrote:Then again I've played too many Boon games and think it's him or Almost running this game, so I'll assume the more common thing and say they're just together in general. Or the 4 plus traitor thing.
Less assertive tone, but considering the mere times of mentions it sounds mire assertive than it should have been taken separately
In post 258, Elsa Jay wrote:Pisskop is the traitor.

Case closed.
AGAIN.. you seem persistent in asserting there
has to be
one
In post 276, Elsa Jay wrote:Because its Saw. If Hoffman isn't a Traitor or something, it'll be weird to me.
A "late" explanation that would have looked MUCH less sus if it was brought up in the original mention or soon after.

So, in sum you are confident there is a Traitor, and you "later" found a reason to justify such belief. To me this sound
very much
like Traitor!you announcing their
presence
identity to the main team

@dave: Did he crumb it like THIS? I mean, a link would make it easier for me to check for myself, or even the full game's name and mod

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Post Post #1002 (ISO) » Fri Apr 24, 2020 10:58 am

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In post 993, davesaz wrote:Seems I have to be the one to point this out again. The game has an advertised town:scum ratio.
In a non-bastard game advertised with a specific town:scum ratio, I don't think a traitor is possible. Unless you're trying to argue it's 4 groupscum+traitor which would be a massive difference in balance.
I am sure 4 scum in a PT who are told they have a Traitor + a Traitor who is told who their 4 team members are doesn't cross the borderline.

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Post Post #1003 (ISO) » Fri Apr 24, 2020 10:59 am

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In post 994, Xtoxm wrote:
In post 991, Almost50 wrote:
In post 971, Hectic wrote:Almo, are 457 and 776, and 891 your reasons for wanting to lynch Elsa? A traitor crumb, foreshadowing that he's scum WHILE there's a wagon on him, and the fact his scumgame is stronger than his towngame?
True, but mainly the Traitor crumb.
she crumbed traitor in lnt too, as town
i would usually like to sheep you when you get a strong read like this, but i am worried you are wrong this time
Oops! Sorry @dave. The question about the game name and a link should be directed @xtoxm

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Post Post #1004 (ISO) » Fri Apr 24, 2020 11:13 am

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In post 1000, Albert B. Rampage wrote:Anyway, in other news, Hectic is scum.
Argument from repetition doesn't make your shit case any better, nor does badgering me to support you in our neighborhood make me any more likely to do so.
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Post Post #1005 (ISO) » Fri Apr 24, 2020 11:16 am

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I don't care what you think, Pine. The smart players can look at his posts and make up their mind.
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Post Post #1006 (ISO) » Fri Apr 24, 2020 11:27 am

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Want to actually give some reasoning for this, Albert? You've gone from townreading me to mysteriously having a scumread as soon as I disliked some of your posts and started pushing Almo.

It's possible you're doing
that thing
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Post Post #1007 (ISO) » Fri Apr 24, 2020 11:31 am

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Almo, don't you think that's far too blatant from Elsa? Joan's was far more subtle and still got her eventually lynched. You think he wouldn't be a little wary being in that game and seeing people including you push her heavily for that?

Honestly though, reading back on Elsa's posts, I still scumread him for feeling weird and off-tone; I just don't like the reasons you're using to scumread him for.

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Post Post #1008 (ISO) » Fri Apr 24, 2020 11:36 am

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@Hectic: Why would he be wary when evidently NOBODY is buying my case on him still, even those who do SR him for other reasons.

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Post Post #1009 (ISO) » Fri Apr 24, 2020 11:38 am

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I am willing to make a deal with you all: Lynch EJ. If he isn't a Traitor you can lynch me tomorrow. Is that good enough for you?

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Post Post #1010 (ISO) » Fri Apr 24, 2020 11:39 am

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lol no
im not gonna lynch you for being wrong abt ej
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Post Post #1011 (ISO) » Fri Apr 24, 2020 11:42 am

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In post 1009, Almost50 wrote:I am willing to make a deal with you all: Lynch EJ. If he isn't a Traitor you can lynch me tomorrow. Is that good enough for you?
no
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Post Post #1012 (ISO) » Fri Apr 24, 2020 11:43 am

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@a50 here is the link. you were in the game so i thought you might remember.
viewtopic.php?p=10633418#p10633418
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Post Post #1013 (ISO) » Fri Apr 24, 2020 11:47 am

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In post 1006, Hectic wrote:You've gone from townreading me to mysteriously having a scumread as soon as I disliked some of your posts and started pushing Almo.
You disagreed with me in post 969 about something I said in post 329. I'm over it, Hectic... LOL
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Post Post #1014 (ISO) » Fri Apr 24, 2020 11:49 am

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I'm 99% certain that Hectic is scum. This is our lynch today. I can see you guys are having a hard time pushing a bandwagon beyond 3 votes, so I'll try to reduce my activity for the final 7 days until we can consolidate around Hectic.
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Post Post #1015 (ISO) » Fri Apr 24, 2020 11:50 am

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In post 1013, Albert B. Rampage wrote:
In post 1006, Hectic wrote:You've gone from townreading me to mysteriously having a scumread as soon as I disliked some of your posts and started pushing Almo.
You disagreed with me in post 969 about something I said in post 329. I'm over it, Hectic... LOL
It was a catchup, why is that relevant to you scumreading me?

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Post Post #1016 (ISO) » Fri Apr 24, 2020 11:53 am

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In post 1014, Albert B. Rampage wrote:I'm 99% certain that Hectic is scum. This is our lynch today. I can see you guys are having a hard time pushing a bandwagon beyond 3 votes, so I'll try to reduce my activity for the final 7 days until we can consolidate around Hectic.
Are you actually not kidding around here? Want to give some reasons? Though I do appreciate this plot progression, I'm sure the audience are on the edge of their seats.

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Post Post #1017 (ISO) » Fri Apr 24, 2020 11:53 am

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In post 1007, Hectic wrote:Honestly though, reading back on Elsa's posts, I still scumread him for feeling weird and off-tone; I just don't like the reasons you're using to scumread him for.
so do you think both of them are scum together or what?

I'm trying to chew on this thought process here - my initial gut reaction was that it seemed plainly disingenuous to push A50 while saying "I also scumread your main scum read, but just for different reasons", but then the more I thought about it the more I'm thinking scum probably doesn't make this up because it's so on the surface inconsistent?

can I get crowd opinions on this one? I'm entirely unsure how I feel about it
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Post Post #1018 (ISO) » Fri Apr 24, 2020 11:54 am

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In post 1001, Almost50 wrote:@dave: Did he crumb it like THIS? I mean, a link would make it easier for me to check for myself, or even the full game's name and mod
Someone else made that comment.
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Post Post #1019 (ISO) » Fri Apr 24, 2020 11:54 am

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In post 1017, GuiltyLion wrote:
In post 1007, Hectic wrote:Honestly though, reading back on Elsa's posts, I still scumread him for feeling weird and off-tone; I just don't like the reasons you're using to scumread him for.
so do you think both of them are scum together or what?

I'm trying to chew on this thought process here - my initial gut reaction was that it seemed plainly disingenuous to push A50 while saying "I also scumread your main scum read, but just for different reasons", but then the more I thought about it the more I'm thinking scum probably doesn't make this up because it's so on the surface inconsistent?

can I get crowd opinions on this one? I'm entirely unsure how I feel about it
Congratulations! You are off my scum list and can join my town block against Hectic.
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Post Post #1020 (ISO) » Fri Apr 24, 2020 11:56 am

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Hectic's posts in the last 24 hours guarantee he is scum. His thought progression simply makes no sense unless he is scum.
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Post Post #1021 (ISO) » Fri Apr 24, 2020 11:57 am

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In post 1017, GuiltyLion wrote:
In post 1007, Hectic wrote:Honestly though, reading back on Elsa's posts, I still scumread him for feeling weird and off-tone; I just don't like the reasons you're using to scumread him for.
so do you think both of them are scum together or what?

I'm trying to chew on this thought process here - my initial gut reaction was that it seemed plainly disingenuous to push A50 while saying "I also scumread your main scum read, but just for different reasons", but then the more I thought about it the more I'm thinking scum probably doesn't make this up because it's so on the surface inconsistent?

can I get crowd opinions on this one? I'm entirely unsure how I feel about it
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Post Post #1022 (ISO) » Fri Apr 24, 2020 11:59 am

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Ok. I did a quick ISO (highlighted "Traitor") and he straight up said "@Mafia: I might be an informed traitor so don't shoot me", and was much less certain there is a traitor to begin with. That is so much different that
asserting
there is one here.

But you know what? This looks like a losing battle for me, so let me know if you have a good case on someone else (good case = doesn't include the words "gut" or "feel")

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Post Post #1023 (ISO) » Fri Apr 24, 2020 12:01 pm

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Almo, is your Elsa read also based on meta? Has Elsa so blatantly crumbed like this before as scum?

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Post Post #1024 (ISO) » Fri Apr 24, 2020 12:02 pm

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In post 1023, Hectic wrote:Almo, is your Elsa read also based on meta? Has Elsa so blatantly crumbed like this before as scum?

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WHY ARE YOU REPLYING 1 SECOND AFTER HIS POST BUT DID NOT SEE THE LINK TO THE OTHER GAME WHERE EJ CLAIMED TRAITOR

YOU ARE POSTING FOR POSTING'S SAKE

YOU ARE SCUM
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