Guns & Roses IV [Game Over]

Vecna · Post Post #1400 (ISO) » Thu Apr 30, 2020 4:54 am

In post 1396, lilith2013 wrote:
Spoiler: Quote wall
In post 530, Vecna wrote:Townreads:
Vecna
chkflip
eyestott
Knightmare491 (debatable, but unless scum really has a strong plan, I dont think the way he has pushed it would be a scum hill to die on)

Maybe 1 scum:
SirCakez
lilith2013
farside22
DonCorleone
votato

Suspected pool of 2 additional scum
Paragon
Firebringer
Iconeum
Something_Smart
Paragon

Scum
Albert B. Rampage

In post 1099, Vecna wrote:ABR, who are we gonna speedwagon?

In post 1346, Vecna wrote:
In post 1340, Albert B. Rampage wrote:
In post 1338, Firebringer wrote:i think cakez is town. I am weaker on DC but his convo with me felt town in his thought processes. His push on you doesn't seem genuine in my mind because he seems to be ignoring what ur doing. Like not trying to figure u out. But ur kind of doing this bluster thing so maybe he thinks its better for him to ignore it for most part?
Look up past DC scum games. Same BS.

Sircakez played an excellent game but there's no way he follows DC like that as town, he knows who I am and what I'm capable of and Firebringer, when Sircakez read what you said about me, if that didn't ring true in every membrane of his body that's because he's scum.

I expected Cakez to have better meta on me than you FB. He is scum, trust me. DC the ringleader of them all.
We can wagon cakez if you want. Id prefer him over DC I think

In post 1353, Vecna wrote:Lets lynch cakez and give ABR the joy of shooting DC tonight

In post 1386, Vecna wrote:
In post 1378, lilith2013 wrote:
In post 1372, lilith2013 wrote:
In post 1358, lilith2013 wrote:
In post 1353, Vecna wrote:Lets lynch cakez and give ABR the joy of shooting DC tonight
Wtf? You just said you thought ABR vs DC was a TvT, and now you want ABR to shoot DC?
Vecna I want a response
I can and will repeatedly quote myself until you answer
I mean, wasting a gunshot or having it bounce off of a rose is infinitely better than wasting a lynch on town and having half the playerlist want to lynch the other tomorrow.

I dont think this situation is going to diffuse anymore without a death.

Vecna went from scumreading ABR to being real friendly with him with no explanation for the flip in read

You realize he is finally playing the way im used to him playing as town, right?

Vecna · Post Post #1401 (ISO) » Thu Apr 30, 2020 4:55 am

In post 1389, lilith2013 wrote:I still prefer ABR wagon but vecna is my 2nd choice

Like, pretending something isnt suddenly spectacularly different is being extremely disingenuous.

But hey, if you wanna scumread me for figuring this out and prodding the situation, do you girl.

Albert B. Rampage · Post Post #1402 (ISO) » Thu Apr 30, 2020 4:55 am

In post 1399, Vecna wrote:I mean, many would argue thats how your entire early game was ABR. Just because you turned on the engine now doesnt mean you have me convinced you cannot do this as scum :p

Im easy to spot as scum I get carried by my team every time. Read my meta. Real easy.

Why not vote DC today? I think its pretty spot on that the most active players, most helpful looking goody two shoe heres my scheduled content post with quotes and explanations and soft hesitations are the ones trying hardest to look town because theyre scum.

Firebringer · Post Post #1403 (ISO) » Thu Apr 30, 2020 4:55 am

Spoiler: Plyer list puzzle

lilith2013 · Post Post #1404 (ISO) » Thu Apr 30, 2020 4:56 am

In post 1400, Vecna wrote:
In post 1396, lilith2013 wrote:
Spoiler: Quote wall
In post 530, Vecna wrote:Townreads:
Vecna
chkflip
eyestott
Knightmare491 (debatable, but unless scum really has a strong plan, I dont think the way he has pushed it would be a scum hill to die on)

Maybe 1 scum:
SirCakez
lilith2013
farside22
DonCorleone
votato

Suspected pool of 2 additional scum
Paragon
Firebringer
Iconeum
Something_Smart
Paragon

Scum
Albert B. Rampage

In post 1099, Vecna wrote:ABR, who are we gonna speedwagon?

In post 1346, Vecna wrote:
In post 1340, Albert B. Rampage wrote:
In post 1338, Firebringer wrote:i think cakez is town. I am weaker on DC but his convo with me felt town in his thought processes. His push on you doesn't seem genuine in my mind because he seems to be ignoring what ur doing. Like not trying to figure u out. But ur kind of doing this bluster thing so maybe he thinks its better for him to ignore it for most part?
Look up past DC scum games. Same BS.

Sircakez played an excellent game but there's no way he follows DC like that as town, he knows who I am and what I'm capable of and Firebringer, when Sircakez read what you said about me, if that didn't ring true in every membrane of his body that's because he's scum.

I expected Cakez to have better meta on me than you FB. He is scum, trust me. DC the ringleader of them all.
We can wagon cakez if you want. Id prefer him over DC I think

In post 1353, Vecna wrote:Lets lynch cakez and give ABR the joy of shooting DC tonight

In post 1386, Vecna wrote:
In post 1378, lilith2013 wrote:
In post 1372, lilith2013 wrote:
In post 1358, lilith2013 wrote:
In post 1353, Vecna wrote:Lets lynch cakez and give ABR the joy of shooting DC tonight
Wtf? You just said you thought ABR vs DC was a TvT, and now you want ABR to shoot DC?
Vecna I want a response
I can and will repeatedly quote myself until you answer
I mean, wasting a gunshot or having it bounce off of a rose is infinitely better than wasting a lynch on town and having half the playerlist want to lynch the other tomorrow.

I dont think this situation is going to diffuse anymore without a death.

Vecna went from scumreading ABR to being real friendly with him with no explanation for the flip in read
You realize he is finally playing the way im used to him playing as town, right?

Yeah and you just said in your last post that he "doesn't have you convinced he's not scum"

so why do you seem to be townreading him so strongly from your recent interactions? sheeping his reads, telling him he can shoot DC even though you think it's a TvT? How does that make any sense?

Vecna · Post Post #1405 (ISO) » Thu Apr 30, 2020 4:56 am

entirely possible

Albert B. Rampage · Post Post #1406 (ISO) » Thu Apr 30, 2020 4:56 am

In post 1401, Vecna wrote:
In post 1389, lilith2013 wrote:I still prefer ABR wagon but vecna is my 2nd choice
Like, pretending something isnt suddenly spectacularly different is being extremely disingenuous.

But hey, if you wanna scumread me for figuring this out and prodding the situation, do you girl.

VOTE WITH ME YOU BASTARD AND WE WILL WIN THIS TOWN A GAME ON OUR SHOULDERS

Vecna · Post Post #1407 (ISO) » Thu Apr 30, 2020 4:57 am

In post 1404, lilith2013 wrote:
In post 1400, Vecna wrote:
In post 1396, lilith2013 wrote:
Spoiler: Quote wall
In post 530, Vecna wrote:Townreads:
Vecna
chkflip
eyestott
Knightmare491 (debatable, but unless scum really has a strong plan, I dont think the way he has pushed it would be a scum hill to die on)

Maybe 1 scum:
SirCakez
lilith2013
farside22
DonCorleone
votato

Suspected pool of 2 additional scum
Paragon
Firebringer
Iconeum
Something_Smart
Paragon

Scum
Albert B. Rampage

In post 1099, Vecna wrote:ABR, who are we gonna speedwagon?

In post 1346, Vecna wrote:
In post 1340, Albert B. Rampage wrote:
In post 1338, Firebringer wrote:i think cakez is town. I am weaker on DC but his convo with me felt town in his thought processes. His push on you doesn't seem genuine in my mind because he seems to be ignoring what ur doing. Like not trying to figure u out. But ur kind of doing this bluster thing so maybe he thinks its better for him to ignore it for most part?
Look up past DC scum games. Same BS.

Sircakez played an excellent game but there's no way he follows DC like that as town, he knows who I am and what I'm capable of and Firebringer, when Sircakez read what you said about me, if that didn't ring true in every membrane of his body that's because he's scum.

I expected Cakez to have better meta on me than you FB. He is scum, trust me. DC the ringleader of them all.
We can wagon cakez if you want. Id prefer him over DC I think

In post 1353, Vecna wrote:Lets lynch cakez and give ABR the joy of shooting DC tonight

In post 1386, Vecna wrote:
In post 1378, lilith2013 wrote:
In post 1372, lilith2013 wrote:
In post 1358, lilith2013 wrote:
In post 1353, Vecna wrote:Lets lynch cakez and give ABR the joy of shooting DC tonight
Wtf? You just said you thought ABR vs DC was a TvT, and now you want ABR to shoot DC?
Vecna I want a response
I can and will repeatedly quote myself until you answer
I mean, wasting a gunshot or having it bounce off of a rose is infinitely better than wasting a lynch on town and having half the playerlist want to lynch the other tomorrow.

I dont think this situation is going to diffuse anymore without a death.

Vecna went from scumreading ABR to being real friendly with him with no explanation for the flip in read
You realize he is finally playing the way im used to him playing as town, right?
Yeah and you just said in your last post that he "doesn't have you convinced he's not scum"

so why do you seem to be townreading him so strongly from your recent interactions? sheeping his reads, telling him he can shoot DC even though you think it's a TvT? How does that make any sense?

Maybe im trying to illicit a response from ABR since he also claimed cakez is scum? And he claims he has a gun?

Can you get off my back and do your own thing?

Albert B. Rampage · Post Post #1408 (ISO) » Thu Apr 30, 2020 4:58 am

Any townie voting me is either:

1) lazy af

2) doesn't like me

3) trusting someone they should think twice about trusting

lilith2013 · Post Post #1409 (ISO) » Thu Apr 30, 2020 4:58 am

In post 1401, Vecna wrote:
In post 1389, lilith2013 wrote:I still prefer ABR wagon but vecna is my 2nd choice
Like, pretending something isnt suddenly spectacularly different is being extremely disingenuous.

But hey, if you wanna scumread me for figuring this out and prodding the situation, do you girl.

also your 1099 is way before the "spectacularly different play"

chkflip · Post Post #1410 (ISO) » Thu Apr 30, 2020 4:58 am

Welcome back, ABR.

VOTE: DonCorleone

Vecna · Post Post #1411 (ISO) » Thu Apr 30, 2020 4:58 am

In post 1406, Albert B. Rampage wrote:
In post 1401, Vecna wrote:
In post 1389, lilith2013 wrote:I still prefer ABR wagon but vecna is my 2nd choice
Like, pretending something isnt suddenly spectacularly different is being extremely disingenuous.

But hey, if you wanna scumread me for figuring this out and prodding the situation, do you girl.
VOTE WITH ME YOU BASTARD AND WE WILL WIN THIS TOWN A GAME ON OUR SHOULDERS

VOTE: DonCorleone

just doing this to piss off lillith tbh. Or maybe I like being called a bastard in all caps

Albert B. Rampage · Post Post #1412 (ISO) » Thu Apr 30, 2020 4:58 am

My meta is in my wiki. Pull up any scum game I have.

Albert B. Rampage · Post Post #1413 (ISO) » Thu Apr 30, 2020 4:59 am

GET THE VAN READY FIREBRINGER MY REINFORCEMENTS ARE COMING

Firebringer · Post Post #1414 (ISO) » Thu Apr 30, 2020 4:59 am

In post 1411, Vecna wrote:I like being called a bastard in all caps

I believe this

Vecna · Post Post #1415 (ISO) » Thu Apr 30, 2020 5:00 am

In post 1409, lilith2013 wrote:
In post 1401, Vecna wrote:
In post 1389, lilith2013 wrote:I still prefer ABR wagon but vecna is my 2nd choice
Like, pretending something isnt suddenly spectacularly different is being extremely disingenuous.

But hey, if you wanna scumread me for figuring this out and prodding the situation, do you girl.
also your 1099 is way before the "spectacularly different play"

He clearly was finally heating up a little bit at that point, yes. Finally doing stuff, telling town to hurry the fuck up and lynch stuff.

Me initiating conversation doesnt suddenly mean he is my biggest townread

Firebringer · Post Post #1416 (ISO) » Thu Apr 30, 2020 5:01 am

In post 1413, Albert B. Rampage wrote:GET THE VAN READY FIREBRINGER MY REINFORCEMENTS ARE COMING

Ill hammer but I think this is town.

ISO · Post Post #1417 (ISO) » Thu Apr 30, 2020 5:04 am

In post 1385, Albert B. Rampage wrote:
In post 1375, SirCakez wrote:ABR you're telling me you don't flip out as scum?
IT IS PRETTY OBVIOUS WHEN IM TOWN AND WHEN IM SCUM

IT IS WELL KNOWN I HATE DRAWING SCUM AND HAVE NO PASSION

THIS IS FUCKING PASSION.

YOU KNOW THIS AND THE ONLY REASON YOU CAN VOTE ME IS YOURE SCUM TOO.

You had NO passion earlier
This is just you faking because of the wagon on you

In post 1388, Vecna wrote:
In post 1379, SirCakez wrote:
In post 1377, Vecna wrote:
In post 1373, Albert B. Rampage wrote:
In post 1369, Vecna wrote:why arent u responding to my plan ABR?
Your plan doesnt work without firebringer and im not changing votes. You with me or against me and knowing our history I dont blame you to be against me
I havent made up my mind. I think theres like a 60% chance or more youre stuck in a TvT here and that cakez and co are sitting on the sidelines fanning the flames
Nice shading
Engage me or get out
That wasnt shading, and youre just trying to use the keyword from last game.

I think youre likely scum here. What do you want me to engage you on?

Why am I scum

Vecna · Post Post #1418 (ISO) » Thu Apr 30, 2020 5:04 am

In post 1403, Firebringer wrote:
Spoiler: Plyer list puzzle
Paragon
Luca Blight
Churros
Battle Mage
OkaPoka
popsofctown
TheFuzzylogic99
NDMath
Aloratom
Blake Belladonna
Adorable
Flavor Leaf
Saudade
Kerset
NorwegianboyEE
Eragon
nomnomnom
Torque
Ame
Alisae
Luna Fox

Pops or ank could fit the bill. Maybe?

FL as a farshot?

votato · Post Post #1419 (ISO) » Thu Apr 30, 2020 5:05 am

UNVOTE: farside. Either ABR is town, and then probably right, or scum, in which case this is a really bad play. Why would scum be this aggressive pushing 1 townie? Worst case ABR is town and wrong, but then we still probably find out tonight with NKs. this is wayyyy better than any of the other wagons, and even if DC flips town, this is real progression. I don't know any of you, but im leaning towards lilith being naive and town, with farside giving intentionally bad reads. Farside is in queue for at least one other game, so doesn't currently feel overwhelmed. If play is subpar for her, its probably on purpose. Vecna flip-flop is a bit odd, and vecna does some off somewhat as tyring to sheep-without-sheeping this game. He has been reading most people the same way town~majority does, iirc. VOTE: doncorleone

Vecna · Post Post #1420 (ISO) » Thu Apr 30, 2020 5:06 am

In post 1417, SirCakez wrote:
In post 1385, Albert B. Rampage wrote:
In post 1375, SirCakez wrote:ABR you're telling me you don't flip out as scum?
IT IS PRETTY OBVIOUS WHEN IM TOWN AND WHEN IM SCUM

IT IS WELL KNOWN I HATE DRAWING SCUM AND HAVE NO PASSION

THIS IS FUCKING PASSION.

YOU KNOW THIS AND THE ONLY REASON YOU CAN VOTE ME IS YOURE SCUM TOO.
You had NO passion earlier
This is just you faking because of the wagon on you
In post 1388, Vecna wrote:
In post 1379, SirCakez wrote:
In post 1377, Vecna wrote:
In post 1373, Albert B. Rampage wrote:
In post 1369, Vecna wrote:why arent u responding to my plan ABR?
Your plan doesnt work without firebringer and im not changing votes. You with me or against me and knowing our history I dont blame you to be against me
I havent made up my mind. I think theres like a 60% chance or more youre stuck in a TvT here and that cakez and co are sitting on the sidelines fanning the flames
Nice shading
Engage me or get out
That wasnt shading, and youre just trying to use the keyword from last game.

I think youre likely scum here. What do you want me to engage you on?
Why am I scum

For one, youre not scumreading anyone with a strong passion like you did me last game.

Youre passive as fuck all. I dont see any genuine solving from you.

I cannot follow your logic at all why you do things. I could even see where u were coming from in a weird way while u were tunneling me last game and manage to townread you through it all.

Trust me, its not me that is at fault here if youre town. Youre fundamentally different here, and I think the cause is a red role pm

Firebringer · Post Post #1421 (ISO) » Thu Apr 30, 2020 5:06 am

In post 1419, votato wrote:UNVOTE: farside. Either ABR is town, and then probably right, or scum, in which case this is a really bad play. Why would scum be this aggressive pushing 1 townie? Worst case ABR is town and wrong, but then we still probably find out tonight with NKs. this is wayyyy better than any of the other wagons, and even if DC flips town, this is real progression. I don't know any of you, but im leaning towards lilith being naive and town, with farside giving intentionally bad reads. Farside is in queue for at least one other game, so doesn't currently feel overwhelmed. If play is subpar for her, its probably on purpose. Vecna flip-flop is a bit odd, and vecna does some off somewhat as tyring to sheep-without-sheeping this game. He has been reading most people the same way town~majority does, iirc. VOTE: doncorleone

why it seem like ur copying pasting and mixing other peoples opinions.

Vecna · Post Post #1422 (ISO) » Thu Apr 30, 2020 5:08 am

In post 1419, votato wrote:UNVOTE: farside. Either ABR is town, and then probably right, or scum, in which case this is a really bad play. Why would scum be this aggressive pushing 1 townie? Worst case ABR is town and wrong, but then we still probably find out tonight with NKs. this is wayyyy better than any of the other wagons, and even if DC flips town, this is real progression. I don't know any of you, but im leaning towards lilith being naive and town, with farside giving intentionally bad reads. Farside is in queue for at least one other game, so doesn't currently feel overwhelmed. If play is subpar for her, its probably on purpose. Vecna flip-flop is a bit odd, and vecna does some off somewhat as tyring to sheep-without-sheeping this game. He has been reading most people the same way town~majority does, iirc. VOTE: doncorleone

You mean like how I was telling everyone to stop wagonning your ass? Same for Eyestott?

Yeah, my reads have been so in line with town majority

BAD UNICORN

farside22 · Post Post #1423 (ISO) » Thu Apr 30, 2020 5:08 am

In post 1416, Firebringer wrote:
In post 1413, Albert B. Rampage wrote:GET THE VAN READY FIREBRINGER MY REINFORCEMENTS ARE COMING
Ill hammer but I think this is town.

Hard disagree.
He is like this regardless of alignment.
.

lilith2013 · Post Post #1424 (ISO) » Thu Apr 30, 2020 5:08 am

In post 1419, votato wrote:UNVOTE: farside. Either ABR is town, and then probably right, or scum, in which case this is a really bad play. Why would scum be this aggressive pushing 1 townie? Worst case ABR is town and wrong, but then we still probably find out tonight with NKs. this is wayyyy better than any of the other wagons, and even if DC flips town, this is real progression. I don't know any of you, but im leaning towards lilith being naive and town, with farside giving intentionally bad reads. Farside is in queue for at least one other game, so doesn't currently feel overwhelmed. If play is subpar for her, its probably on purpose. Vecna flip-flop is a bit odd, and vecna does some off somewhat as tyring to sheep-without-sheeping this game. He has been reading most people the same way town~majority does, iirc. VOTE: doncorleone

How do you sound like you're scumreading vecna and then come out with a vote on DC