SIR Disease Mafia - Game Over!

[Hoctac]

Oh, mafia are cultists lol

If I'm not recruited tomorrow, I'm lynching all my scumreads. That's your first and final warning, scum. And remember: I've never been wrong about a scumread before.

[Quick]

All these people can die...

Creature
5G
Jake the Wolfie
Vecna (did I REALLY do that? Yes, I did)
50 (same as above)
Tchill
Saudade (the reads here are bad and same as the other stuff)

[Quick]

This might narrow down (or change) later, however.

[Covid 19]

Day 1 VC #46

Creature (2): Alchemist21 (1968), Vecna (2068)
Auro (0):
Hoctac (1): Quick (2092)
5G Tower (0):
Jake the Wolfie (0):
Aristophanes (0):
Quick (1): 50 Judge Powers (1623)
Vecna (1): Voted (802)
Voted (0):
Alchemist21 (1): farside22 (1345)
Elements (0):
Flavor Leaf (1): Saudade (1340)
farside22 (0):
EspeciallyTheLies (4): mastina (397), Hoctac (1262), EspeciallyTheLies (1645), Nero Cain (1710)
50 Judge Powers (1): Auro (1543)
mastina (2): davesaz (1745), Tchill13 (1854)
Miss Lynch (0):
Nero Cain (0):
Tchill13 (0):
Saudade (1): Elements (1938)
No Lynch (0):
Not Voting (6): Creature, 5G Tower, Jake the Wolfie, Aristophanes, Flavor Leaf (449), Miss Lynch (489)

With 21 alive, it takes 11 votes to lynch a player.

This phase will end on May 19, 2020 1:00 PM EDT (GMT-4:00) or in (expired on 2020-05-19 13:00:00).

Moderator Notes

1. If you have regular weekend V/LA, you must either notify me each time or set V/LA tags each time.
2.

Please note the prodding rules. You are prodded after 32 hours of inactivity on Tuesday-Friday.

3. MathBlade's automated votecounter doesn't appear to track No Lynch votes properly. I'm still waiting for a response from him.
4. If you see any errors in a votecount or in the voting history, please feel free to inform me either in-thread (by bolding) or via pm.
5. As a note, if I'm not around to provide a VC, you can easily obtain one using MathBlade's tool. There's a link to the thread in the opening post of this thread. (Please remember to clearly label all unofficial votecounts as such.)
6. farside22 is V/LA until Monday.

[Quick]

All these people can die...

Creature
5G
Jake the Wolfie
Vecna (did I REALLY do that? Yes, I did)
50 (same as above)
Tchill
Saudade (the reads here are bad and same as the other stuff)

Ari is not on the list. Anyone have any ideas as to why?

[Alchemist21]

No. Tell us.

[Quick]

No. Tell us.

I don't FEEL like it rn.

[Auro]

P(A and B) is small doesn't mean P(A|B) is zero

Ah, I see you are also one of them poor people that is assigned the task of lecturing bachelor statistics

No, but maybe in the distant future.

You're a lecturer? That's hella cool!

[Auro]

So why not give him more time?

@Alch

[Quick]

This is really quite high on the list of best album closers ever.

https://youtu.be/NuSkXhEWVTQ

[Alchemist21]

So why not give him more time?

@Alch

I’ve seen him rep in and start the kind of posts I’m looking for within 24 hours rather than stalling.

[Auro]

VOTE: Creature

Choo choo!

(Or should I say, Achoo Achoo?)

[Quick]

Hote take: Creature is Scum.

This satisfies me quite nicely...

[Miss Lane]

I really hate the color orange. It's like a shit color, except brighter.

I like orange. Just not so much of it.

[Jake The Wolfie]

All these people can die...

Creature
5G
Jake the Wolfie
Vecna (did I REALLY do that? Yes, I did)
50 (same as above)
Tchill
Saudade (the reads here are bad and same as the other stuff)

No, No I cannot die.

[Quick]

All these people can die...

Creature
5G
Jake the Wolfie
Vecna (did I REALLY do that? Yes, I did)
50 (same as above)
Tchill
Saudade (the reads here are bad and same as the other stuff)

No, No I cannot die.

[Quick]

my vote
tchill vote

This checks out, actually.

Hmm...

[Flavor Leaf]

I really just don’t feel like playing mafia, guys. I don’t think I’ve ever felt this burnt out before. I’m not even modding a game right now.

I’ll stay in the game for now, and try to force myself to get going, but yeah. I have a site wide lull in activity right now.

[Flavor Leaf]

Just a heads up of where I’m at

[Saudade]

its okay bro

[Saudade]

Take your time refuel and come back stronker =]

[mastina]

You are asserting ETL hasn't actually done anything town. This can easily be disproven by examples of things she is doing that are obviously town.

And what would those things be? Things which didn't just look town but were

actually

town?

If your case is something different than that, then please enlighten us.

My case is more or less that what ETL has done is incredibly fake across the board; the only things not faked are things that are obviously nai, e.g. her AtE, her mechanics posting. Her posts are "easy" to make, for lack of a better word.

ETL has been too loud today.

Loudness is not a towntell least of all from ETL. Especially not frustration, especially not toxicity, especially not for AtE.

you cant convince me she's throwing as scum to set 2, 3 ppl up thats hard defending her?

What's 'throwing' about her play? Nothing in her play this game is throwing if she's scum. The self-vote when nowhere close to a lynch is a classic scum move from the era ETL was a player in; she is very well-versed in the theory of self-voting for the towncred.

it is slightly irritating to think you actually believe the game is this easy. I almost dont believe you actually think that.

Oh, the game being easy wouldn't be 2/3 of the lurkers scum; the game being easy would be all three of the lurkers scum! I happen to think the game's harder due to ETL being scum.

Still, tho. At this point, I'll vote whichever of {ETL, Creature, Aristophanes} has the most votes. Right now that is ETL. That said:

This game is really hard to track tbh.

It is posts like this which

would

make me think that, yes, the game is that easy.

[mastina]

I'm putting Auro on my "willing to lynch" category

I'm actually moving Auro up to the townbloc category with the likes of Nero Cain and Vecna. The more he posts, the more sure I am of it. Admittedly, to use the cliched expression, I could quote Auro's explanation of his townread on me with, "pocket attempt successful" or similar lingo, because I admit that plays a part in it, but like. Auro is radiating the townness that I expect him to as scum and it's at the point of being strong enough where I'm going to say fuck paranoia, and lock him as town because any suspicion on him at this point in time is precisely that; paranoia. He's just, overwhelmingly town beyond a shadow of a doubt.

she was under no real threat before she started acting a little odd in terms of self voting.

Precisely why the action makes no sense as town but makes perfect sense as scum. She was under no real threat. As town, she therefore has no reason to have reacted that way. As scum, she

does

have a reason to react that way; to garner some cheap towncred and dissuade the efforts at wagoning her before they take off. It's a move that there was low-risk to pull, but incredibly high reward.

grabbing the spotlight d1 early for no reason on a play to AtE when its not needed makes sense how?

Precisely because it's not needed--what does ETL in the spotlight risk as scum? She wasn't even close to lynch range.

There's a weight between the possible town motive for an action, and a possible scum motive for the action. The town motive for the action is...well, honestly, it's hard to tell because there isn't much of one. The scum motive for the action is to shut down the suspicion on her slot, play wounded gazelle to get sympathizers to help defend her and divide the town and break unity, get people who're suckers for AtE to townread her.

[mastina]

Also, her statements that she always makes that her scum game is oh so bad is not always actually the case.

I mean. Circa two years ago my scumplay was among the best of the best onsite, but I don't know what happened to it, a year and a half of having drawn almost exclusively town role PMs (I went over 20 games in a row without drawing scum!), and for whatever reason. I just. Haven't been able to play scum worth a damn this year. Give me a little time and I can give you some examples demonstrating the utter lack of ability to play that alignment. While, admittedly, many of these scumgames had extenuating circumstances which incentivized that lack of playing scum, not all of them had it and even ones which

shouldn't

have been that way, ones which I

should

have been able to play to my fullest at the level scumastina is known for.

Well.

I just.

Didn't

.

So.

My scumgame in 2020 is, yes, objectively--terrible, demonstrably so. I will admit. It having been objectively terrible in every single scumgame this year does not mean that I couldn't magically have a scumastina performance at the level I'm usually known for! It could happen! But it hasn't, multiple times, hasn't. Why, dunno. Just is.

Anyways, she is overwhelmingly more likely to be town here, but dont get too convinced on that fact without keeping that sharp eye.

I mean, cult game, so. I'm town today, but obviously I can't promise you that I'll

stay

town. (I mean. Scum's mistake if they infect me, but like. While it's obviously a mistake for scum to infect me. Scum aren't immune to making mistakes, so. Could happen in spite of how objectively terrible a move it'd be.) So like. Future days, keep an eye on what I am doing. If I have a sudden inexplicable abrupt dropoff in contributions and activities, chances are

fairly

high that the cause is that I'm no longer town.

Probably locktown, never a day1 lynch:
8. Vecna+
17. mastina+*
18. Miss Lynch+
19. Nero Cain+
20. Tchill13+
21. Saudade+
2. Auro+
7. Allan90 Quick+
15. EspeciallyTheLies+

Done significant stuff that makes them likely town. Also not lynch today
13. farside22+
14. davesaz+
11. Elements+

Not done anything:
10. Alchemist21+
12. Flavor Leaf+
16. 50 Judge Powers+
4. 5G Tower+
5. Jake the Wolfie+* ^
6. Odelschwanck Aristophanes+

Actually done stuff that I think is scummy for the slot, Prime lynch pool:
1. momo+ Creature+
3. Hoctac+
9. No łynch+ Voted+

This game really is easy. If those 6 people can just obvtown right about now, the scum can just concede

The only townread in there I disagree with is ETL. In the scummy-slots, I admit that No lynch/Voted is a locktown read based purely on their roleclaim and not off the merits of their play whatsoever. I know I am usually a proponent of "role != alignment", but that saying doesn't apply to innocent child/mason-type claims and No lynch/Voted claimed a role that is precisely that. (Uninfectable Townie, their claimed role, is, again, explicitly a claim that they are a player who fundamentally

cannot be made into scum

.)

Hoctac's content is similar to ETL in that I disagree; I don't think Hoctac's content here is even remotely scummy and to the contrary think it is town.

In the Not Done Anything category, I think Alch and Almost50 have both in more recent times done things. They definitely qualified earlier in the game, but their later contributions are passable at least

for now

.

But, yeah, Aristophanes/Creature/Jake definitely contains AT LEAST one scum, but probably two. (FL is at this stage, "eh I wouldn't mind if we lynched him on policy but I don't have the same expectation to hit scum on him that I do for Ari/Creature/Jake". 5G is never scum with ETL but if ETL were town as you believe, as I have previously said, yes, would be included in the Ari/Creature/Jake pool.)

VOTE: Creature
Creature and Ari are both likely scum.

Example of what I mean by Alch having done more and thus me feeling he was misplaced, btw.
And, yes, he be quite correct. Between the two of them there's guaranteed to be at least one scum with a very real chance that both actually drew scum here.

Part of the reason that I questioned mastina on her ETL read was that "not doing anything" is a horrible read on someone with ~200 posts.

And what has she done with those 200 posts?

Show me something bad from ETL that isn't AtE and I'll be on board.

Everything?

[mastina]

I really just don’t feel like playing mafia, guys. I don’t think I’ve ever felt this burnt out before. I’m not even modding a game right now. I’ll stay in the game for now, and try to force myself to get going, but yeah. I have a site wide lull in activity right now.

Hugs. <3
This game is the only game where I'm not feeling pretty much the same as you, and

even then

, I am feeling that way even in this game. (I wouldn't have chosen to post today if not for the short prod timers + eating a single prod already.)

So I do know the feeling. <3