In post 2123, mastina wrote: In post 1947, Vecna wrote:Also, her statements that she always makes that her scum game is oh so bad is not always actually the case.
I mean. Circa two years ago my scumplay was among the best of the best onsite, but I don't know what happened to it, a year and a half of having drawn almost exclusively town role PMs (I went over 20 games in a row without drawing scum!), and for whatever reason. I just. Haven't been able to play scum worth a damn this year. Give me a little time and I can give you some examples demonstrating the utter lack of ability to play that alignment. While, admittedly, many of these scumgames had extenuating circumstances which incentivized that lack of playing scum, not all of them had it and even ones which
shouldn't
have been that way, ones which I
should
have been able to play to my fullest at the level scumastina is known for.
Well.
I just.
Didn't
.
So.
My scumgame in 2020 is, yes, objectively--terrible, demonstrably so. I will admit. It having been objectively terrible in every single scumgame this year does not mean that I couldn't magically have a scumastina performance at the level I'm usually known for! It could happen! But it hasn't, multiple times, hasn't. Why, dunno. Just is.
In post 1947, Vecna wrote:Anyways, she is overwhelmingly more likely to be town here, but dont get too convinced on that fact without keeping that sharp eye.
I mean, cult game, so. I'm town today, but obviously I can't promise you that I'll
stay
town. (I mean. Scum's mistake if they infect me, but like. While it's obviously a mistake for scum to infect me. Scum aren't immune to making mistakes, so. Could happen in spite of how objectively terrible a move it'd be.) So like. Future days, keep an eye on what I am doing. If I have a sudden inexplicable abrupt dropoff in contributions and activities, chances are
fairly
high that the cause is that I'm no longer town.
In post 1951, Vecna wrote:Probably locktown, never a day1 lynch:
8. Vecna+
17. mastina+*
18. Miss Lynch+
19. Nero Cain+
20. Tchill13+
21. Saudade+
2. Auro+
7. Allan90 Quick+
15. EspeciallyTheLies+
Done significant stuff that makes them likely town. Also not lynch today
13. farside22+
14. davesaz+
11. Elements+
Not done anything:
10. Alchemist21+
12. Flavor Leaf+
16. 50 Judge Powers+
4. 5G Tower+
5. Jake the Wolfie+* ^
6. Odelschwanck Aristophanes+
Actually done stuff that I think is scummy for the slot, Prime lynch pool:
1. momo+ Creature+
3. Hoctac+
9. No łynch+ Voted+
This game really is easy. If those 6 people can just obvtown right about now, the scum can just concede
The only townread in there I disagree with is ETL. In the scummy-slots, I admit that No lynch/Voted is a locktown read based purely on their roleclaim and not off the merits of their play whatsoever. I know I am usually a proponent of "role != alignment", but that saying doesn't apply to innocent child/mason-type claims and No lynch/Voted claimed a role that is precisely that. (Uninfectable Townie, their claimed role, is, again, explicitly a claim that they are a player who fundamentally
cannot be made into scum
.)
Hoctac's content is similar to ETL in that I disagree; I don't think Hoctac's content here is even remotely scummy and to the contrary think it is town.
In the Not Done Anything category, I think Alch and Almost50 have both in more recent times done things. They definitely qualified earlier in the game, but their later contributions are passable at least
for now
.
But, yeah, Aristophanes/Creature/Jake definitely contains AT LEAST one scum, but probably two. (FL is at this stage, "eh I wouldn't mind if we lynched him on policy but I don't have the same expectation to hit scum on him that I do for Ari/Creature/Jake". 5G is never scum with ETL but if ETL were town as you believe, as I have previously said, yes, would be included in the Ari/Creature/Jake pool.)
Example of what I mean by Alch having done more and thus me feeling he was misplaced, btw.
And, yes, he be quite correct. Between the two of them there's guaranteed to be at least one scum with a very real chance that both actually drew scum here.
In post 1974, davesaz wrote:Part of the reason that I questioned mastina on her ETL read was that "not doing anything" is a horrible read on someone with ~200 posts.
And what has she done with those 200 posts?
In post 1974, davesaz wrote:Show me something bad from ETL that isn't AtE and I'll be on board.
Everything?
