Mini 2136 | City That Never Sleeps [Game over!]

[Atarashi Hajimari]

Also pagetop

[Auro]

Defend Karnage: "Unfortunately you're his partner or Waking!"
"Defend" GL by trying to lynch somewhere else: "Oh you're buddies with GL!"

Why do you think you should be locktown?

Adoption and commitment to a strategy that would've screwed me over is the strongest personal reason. Prolly this is

the only time I'll do it as town though

So does this mean that you usually do it as scum? o.O

Lol consistently asking to be cop checked? No

[Atarashi Hajimari]

Defend Karnage: "Unfortunately you're his partner or Waking!"
"Defend" GL by trying to lynch somewhere else: "Oh you're buddies with GL!"

Why do you think you should be locktown?

Adoption and commitment to a strategy that would've screwed me over is the strongest personal reason. Prolly this is

the only time I'll do it as town though

So does this mean that you usually do it as scum? o.O

Lol consistently asking to be cop checked? No

Is asking to be copped your "Adoption and commitment to a strategy that would've screwed you over"?

[Auro]

@Smarter: I saw the soft, I was trying to make him appear like a lynch candidate nonetheless , I should've claimed TA myself

[Auro]

Yes

[Atarashi Hajimari]

Yes

Isn't that, like, super WIFOM-y though?

[Auro]

If you reduce the entirety of my play to "asked to be copped" then yes.

When you realize that I literally dictated how the cop should play, and strongly suggested that they roll a (weighted perhaps) die within three slots, and I am in the three slots, and realize that this implies a legitimate chance of my being caught from a D1 check when I had no reason to pursue any of this; as scum I deal in absolutes, I don't leave my fate to a high chance die roll.
(Btw started watching Kakegurui and I LOVE it)

You asked me why I think I should be locktown. That's one of my strongest reasons. Everything is WIFOM

[Titus]

The traffic analyst died n1. It's real easy to pretend to bait a cop check when you plan on shooting the cop.

[Auro]

Except I was advocating it waaaaaaaay before the dude softed. So I would have to be an incredibly cocky scumplayer, or got incredibly lucky.

[BBmolla]

Man this game is whack

I might just sheep Limit

like GL you say it might be Titus/Molla and I can't even argue that I feel strongly about Titus being town or anything

[BBmolla]

This feels like a nontown stream of thoughts, I've never as town been like "Oh this guy is one scum... oh no due to PoE the other has to be you " I've had that happen multiple times as scum where you're just mathematically making your scumreads and you end up having to scumread a player who you didn't want to, but if he genuinely believed Karnage was scum I imagine he'd have come to the conclusion of 1571 eons earlier than these posts imply.

ah sorry I hadn't seen this post when I posted my other one

I've been low key suspecting Auro as a possible partner all D2? Especially given how hard he's tried to townclear/refuse to vote Karnage. See my 1468 and 1481 and 1483

as for another point - if I were scum, why would I lock myself into suggesting I think Auro is the most likely partner when it would be infinitely easier for me to throw more shade at Titus or acryon or Eve or whoever? There's tons of other slots I could have viably scumread, it's not like I've somehow boxed myself into making that post. I don't see why you can't see it as genuine.

Doubling down on "I've suspected Auro all along" and then linking times you disagreed with Auro aint great though GL I gotta tell ya

Why can't Karnage be scum with Titus or acryon or Eve or whoever? Why does it have to "sadly be Auro "?

[Atarashi Hajimari]

Man this game is whack

I might just sheep Limit

like GL you say it might be Titus/Molla and I can't even argue that I feel strongly about Titus being town or anything

I feel you on the game being whack.

You don't say you feel strongly about Titus being town, but do you feel strongly about Limit, then? Why?

Also, have you read my arguments for Acryon?

[BBmolla]

I'll be honest I ignored them lmfao

I'll go read them now

I was iffy on Limit early game, they just seem town, idk, wouldn't stake my life on it

[BBmolla]

Pathfinder 1e or 2e?

[BBmolla]

Nah I still think Acryon is town, the stuff that pinged for me early game pinged for you too, but other than then they have seemed town

[Auro]

Started reading around

8pm my time (2000 for non-americans)

, ended around 4-4:30am.

I lol'd

[Atarashi Hajimari]

Nah I still think Acryon is town, the stuff that pinged for me early game pinged for you too, but other than then they have seemed town

What has seemed townie about them to you? I'm fairly confident in my read here.

Also, 1e. We're playing through Rise of the Runelords, slightly modified so that we reach level 20 rather than I think 17 is where it normally stops? We're sitting at level 16 right now.

[Auro]

Nah I still think Acryon is town, the stuff that pinged for me early game pinged for you too, but other than then they have seemed town

Crayon is town, Atari is town, you're town, Eve's town, 1/0's town, I'm town, Guilty's meh town
{Skitter, Titus}

Titus' previous slot Rex basically scumslipped. Read 1623. His first post after the soft is to unvote while calling me out for continuing to push Allo, saying that Allo towned it up.
On D2 he justifies his unvote by saying he wanted more time and not because he didn't want to not lynch Allo (triple negative yaaaay). That's a lie.

[BBmolla]

VOTE: skitter

yeah this is actually where we should go

[BBmolla]

The saus slip is why I'm not super certain on Titus town

But idk GL seems off too

So idk there, one of them is scum

[BBmolla]

Nah I still think Acryon is town, the stuff that pinged for me early game pinged for you too, but other than then they have seemed town

What has seemed townie about them to you? I'm fairly confident in my read here.

Also, 1e. We're playing through Rise of the Runelords, slightly modified so that we reach level 20 rather than I think 17 is where it normally stops? We're sitting at level 16 right now.

blah, I'd have to reread, but we've been pretty in sync

nice! We've just switched to 2e (from 5e DND, I used to play 1e PF back before 5E) in my house and I'm running the adventure on Tuesday. I've honestly never run a campaign to reach those kinds of levels but hopefully with quarantine I can make it happen

[BBmolla]

Why are you so convinced from your own reasoning it seems like a lot of weak "what ifs" to me

[Auro]

Well that and Titus stubbornly pushing the whole VCA crap after everyone pointed out D1 VCA is moot.

Also, one thing to be checked: Conclusions from the "VCA" on Skitter and GuiltyLion should be similar is what I feel; have to actually look at the VCs. Noting here.

[BBmolla]

Auro if you are scum I will be very upset so please don’t be because obviously I can’t read you

[Auro]

Skitter votes:

Nomnomnom(1.1)->

Acryon

(1.2)->

Not Voting

(1.5)->GL(1.16)->

Nom

(1.20)->Not Voting(1.22)

GuiltyLion votes:

Auro(1.1)->

Acryon

(1.2)->Allomancer(1.5)->

Not Voting

(1.18)->

Nom

(1.20)->Karnage(1.27)

Colored some of the common elements. Do tell me, Titus, why your VCA arguments for GuiltyLion scum do not apply to Skitter.

Auro if you are scum I will be very upset so please don’t be because obviously I can’t read you