I disagree with Hiraki's point, that Town shouldn't care about how they are perceived. Town should care about scumhunting AND avoiding a mislynch. If you are town, you should care about not getting lynched yourself.
The problem arises when you ONLY care about staying alive. I don't get that sense from HEM's posts at all.
In post 448, Umlaut wrote:Hiraki, the way HEM is saying his post should be interpreted is the way I interpreted it in the first place and really the only one that makes sense. Since you think he's attempting to change the meaning, can you say what you find implausible about the "new" meaning he presents?
Because that route already happened before that post and we are still debating if masons are real.
I disagree with Hiraki's point, that Town shouldn't care about how they are perceived. Town should care about scumhunting AND avoiding a mislynch. If you are town, you should care about not getting lynched yourself.
The problem arises when you ONLY care about staying alive. I don't get that sense from HEM's posts at all.
Not only is this wrong, it's also irrational in method and logic.
i want to ask where is george wrong but i don't want to further derail this game into useless theory talk what do i do
I will straight up disregard all reason if you have a PR dream again. You can come back and be like, “I dreamt that Locke is a N2 Bulletproof Multitasking Cop and Self-Targeting Doctor,” and I will go, “Okay, Locke kill it is then.”
In post 418, humaneatingmonkey wrote:So now my head is: Is this town!Hiraki too proud to own up to his mistake or is this scum!Hiraki failing to get momentum on his manufactured push?
I think this is scum!Hiraki failing to get momentum on his manufactured push
I'm struggling to believe more and more that you actually think that, Hiraki.
In post 417, Hoctac wrote:Let us know your updated read on Madoka after her recent catchup post, George, as well as your reasons for scumleaning the monkey.
sorry sorry. I really like the post by post catch up, while I don't think I understand her push on Datisi, (the paragraph rhymed and i liked it but i don't get it) it doesn't sound forceful in a way where scum needs a target to push to seem like they're doing something.
I think that post towntells for her due to the effort put into scumhunting.
I think i'm down to choosing between Monkey and Hiraki right now. I don't think this is bussing so one has to be scum or town.
I'm wary of the Hiraki wagon right now because it got really high really fast, and it was started by one of my scumreads.
Huh, TvT fights, from my personal experience, usually revolve around stupid pedantics on definitions or non-trivial issues that only Town would care about. Then usually someone's feeling get hurt, or someone rages.
Literally the entire push was due to my response to him NOT townreading me and over both the change in playstyle and the confusion of my town lean on him which had not explaintion prior to it.
VOTE: George
The number of misrepresentations of HEM push onto me from a number of players is getting ridiculous. Please actually read the interaction before making commentary on it.
In post 457, GeorgeBailey wrote:sorry sorry. I really like the post by post catch up, while I don't think I understand her push on Datisi, (the paragraph rhymed and i liked it but i don't get it) it doesn't sound forceful in a way where scum needs a target to push to seem like they're doing something.
I think that post towntells for her due to the effort put into scumhunting.
I think i'm down to choosing between Monkey and Hiraki right now.
I don't think this is bussing so one has to be scum or town.
I'm wary of the Hiraki wagon right now because it got really high really fast, and it was started by one of my scumreads.
I have a Billy goat to your head. It's ready to baaaaahhh you to hell unless you pick one or the other. Which one do you pick.
Good point. Although, I think scum!Hiraki might've at least admitted his mistake and backed off, rather than continue voting for you after it seemed EVERYONE was disagreeing with his interpretation of the original post.
Apparently I misrepped HEM's push on you, so I don't really have a reason to suspect him. I said previously that I don't think HEM is LAMIST so that leaves me with Hiraki.
Literally the entire push was due to my response to him NOT townreading me and over both the change in playstyle and the confusion of my town lean on him which had not explaintion prior to it.
VOTE: George
The number of misrepresentations of HEM push onto me from a number of players is getting ridiculous. Please actually read the interaction before making commentary on it.
In post 465, Hoctac wrote:Hmm, both Hiraki and George have scum equity but I think Hiraki's stubbornness and lack of concern for his appearance might be town-indicative.
VOTE: GeorgeBailey
This is revenge for Fusion.
He backed off and became open to voting someone else since #414. The only thing he didn't do is admit he made a mistake — which, to be fair, I don't think town!Hiraki would do either.
