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Post Post #2975 (ISO) » Sat May 16, 2020 2:33 pm

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In post 2852, mastina wrote:
In post 2710, Auro wrote:VOTE: TSE
Sheep me
TSE is Vecna, so the slot is town, so no.
In post 2735, Aristophanes wrote:
In post 2729, Hoctac wrote:
In post 2725, Aristophanes wrote:
In post 2713, Hoctac wrote:Why is no one at L-1 yet? Everyone on the ETL wagon is conftown.
How even do you figure!? XD
I have a wagon-cop-check. The ETL wagon returned and innocent.
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Also, Godfathers and the like exist. Js.
Btw was already planning on voting Ari but posts like this just cement it:
VOTE: Aristophanes.
In post 2795, Tchill13 wrote:maybe i was lucky...
or maybe im playing at such a high level mastina and nero cant even comprehend. :P
So, uh.
Tchill.

I hate to be the type to suggest, "scum scumslipping a post in-thread that was meant for the scum PT", but uh.
Care to offer me an explanation for why this post wouldn't be that?
Hey mastina,

So like, why does a post like that make me even more likely to be scum in your eyes?
I promise you I will read whatever essay you have on it, because I would love to find the fault in it in order to determine if you are coming from an incorrect perspective or from a scum perspective.

Thanks friend! :)
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Post Post #2976 (ISO) » Sat May 16, 2020 2:48 pm

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Post Post #2977 (ISO) » Sat May 16, 2020 3:08 pm

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Mastina might be scum for thinking Ari is scum.
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Post Post #2978 (ISO) » Sat May 16, 2020 3:09 pm

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Actually, her shameless self-meta was towny.

I'm gonna be mad if most of the scum are in the lurker/memeslots which I refuse to vote.
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Post Post #2979 (ISO) » Sat May 16, 2020 3:25 pm

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In post 2972, Nero Cain wrote:y is tchill town?
Tchill isn’t avoiding the game like I think he would as scum.

What are your reads right now?
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Post Post #2980 (ISO) » Sat May 16, 2020 3:26 pm

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In post 2978, Hoctac wrote:Actually, her shameless self-meta was towny.

I'm gonna be mad if most of the scum are in the lurker/memeslots which I refuse to vote.
Why do you refuse to vote those slots?
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Post Post #2981 (ISO) » Sat May 16, 2020 3:29 pm

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In post 2979, Alchemist21 wrote:What are your reads right now?
iso me and look at like my last 2 or 3 posts
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Post Post #2982 (ISO) » Sat May 16, 2020 3:33 pm

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In post 2921, Nero Cain wrote:13. gobbledygook
16. 50 Judge Powers
17. mastina
20. Tchill13

as of right now this is kind where I wanna go today.

Wasn't in love with Masina's reaction to getting scum read and the "as promised" seems slimey to me.

tchil's hard town read of ETL doesn't make a ton of sense to me. I've played with tchill a ton and it feels like ETL
ate
ing is something that he normally questions.

Wasn't in love with farside's content and gobble has been kinda a lurksack.

50's main contributing being mechanics seems scummy. If Dave does flip scum his light defense of a50 could be buddy play

but so could quicks....

but Quick is also bad enough to be scummy without being scum. Kinda wanna pl him though...
Strongly disagree with the Mastina read as well. I could see Gobbledy or 50 as scum though.
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Post Post #2983 (ISO) » Sat May 16, 2020 3:38 pm

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Numbered lists are a pain in the ass to work with. I guess I'll leave the numbers.
I'm just going to spew what my running take is without trying to go back and research.

1. Creature - meta says scum, can't remember a single useful post
2. Auro - occasional townish behavior but I've seen that recently where he flipped scum. null and not a priority
3. Hoctac - can't remember anything that is explicitly useful to town
4. 5G Tower - scum tinted hammer, yet another slot with no explicitly town behavior
5. Jake the Wolfie - only on number 5 and this is the 4th slot with no useful posts
6. Aristophanes - fits in the category with Auro where there are some townish things but I'd be hard pressed to remember a stance from him
7. Quick - all over the fucking place, probably town because scum would have to be more careful, but without coherent progression it doesn't help me solve much
8. TrueSoulEnergy - don't remember who this replaced, maybe this will be a game where he's trustworthy but will need to see it
9. Voted - has said a few things
10. Alchemist21 - another in the Auro/Ari category where occasionally a post will look vaguely town but darned if I can remember them
11. Nahdia - catch up looked town motivated, don't know who she replaced so will require a review
12. Flavor Leaf - I'm getting a strong "buried in RL stuff" vibe. Lacks any purpose which could mean town given that he tends to actively drive chaos when scum
13. gobbledygook - replaced who? Has he posted?
14. davesaz - I'm town and I'm going to trigger a bunch of people by not removing myself from the list.
16. 50 Judge Powers - feels town by meta. I feel confident I'd recognize scum 50
17. mastina - Seriously gets on my nerves but the style / read clash probably means she's town
18. Miss Lynch - Feels scummy but I think it's probably a playstyle driven thought
19. Nero Cain - Seems town but seems very wrong in his reads, or at least selected ones
20. Tchill13 - Strongest TR, though I'm susceptible to the same agreement bias that I was so kind to point out earlier
21. Saudade - Feels antitown as fuck but I believe I have a major playstyle clash with him. So it's more of a null than scum thing

I would not be the slightest bit surprised if at least 2 scum are in the A's plus the lurkers.
{Auro, Alchemist, Aristophanes, 5G, Creature, Hoctac, Jake, gobbledygook} are the slots I most want to sort.
The A's probably have enough content but require me to do work to sort. Auro is least likely in that list but most dangerous.
The lurkers need to post
useful stuff
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Post Post #2984 (ISO) » Sat May 16, 2020 3:41 pm

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this seems like way more effort then Dave has ever put into a game.
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Post Post #2985 (ISO) » Sat May 16, 2020 3:44 pm

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It's a sad situation when more than half the game is actively refusing to be useful.
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Post Post #2986 (ISO) » Sat May 16, 2020 3:48 pm

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VOTE: Dave

There's a lot of fence-sitting and wishy-washy language. A reads list from Dave seems v unusual as well. Town Dave just seems to plod along.
Of all tyrannies,a tyranny sincerely exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive. It would be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies. The robber baron's cruelty may sometimes sleep but those who torment us for our own good will torment us without end they do so with the approval of their own conscience.

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Post Post #2987 (ISO) » Sat May 16, 2020 3:50 pm

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oh right

VOTE: davesaz
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Post Post #2988 (ISO) » Sat May 16, 2020 3:53 pm

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In post 2983, davesaz wrote:Numbered lists are a pain in the ass to work with. I guess I'll leave the numbers.
I'm just going to spew what my running take is without trying to go back and research.

1. Creature - meta says scum, can't remember a single useful post
2. Auro - occasional townish behavior but I've seen that recently where he flipped scum. null and not a priority
3. Hoctac - can't remember anything that is explicitly useful to town
4. 5G Tower - scum tinted hammer, yet another slot with no explicitly town behavior
5. Jake the Wolfie - only on number 5 and this is the 4th slot with no useful posts
6. Aristophanes - fits in the category with Auro where there are some townish things but I'd be hard pressed to remember a stance from him
7. Quick - all over the fucking place, probably town because scum would have to be more careful, but without coherent progression it doesn't help me solve much
8. TrueSoulEnergy - don't remember who this replaced, maybe this will be a game where he's trustworthy but will need to see it
9. Voted - has said a few things
10. Alchemist21 - another in the Auro/Ari category where occasionally a post will look vaguely town but darned if I can remember them
11. Nahdia - catch up looked town motivated, don't know who she replaced so will require a review
12. Flavor Leaf - I'm getting a strong "buried in RL stuff" vibe. Lacks any purpose which could mean town given that he tends to actively drive chaos when scum
13. gobbledygook - replaced who? Has he posted?
14. davesaz - I'm town and I'm going to trigger a bunch of people by not removing myself from the list.
16. 50 Judge Powers - feels town by meta. I feel confident I'd recognize scum 50
17. mastina - Seriously gets on my nerves but the style / read clash probably means she's town
18. Miss Lynch - Feels scummy but I think it's probably a playstyle driven thought
19. Nero Cain - Seems town but seems very wrong in his reads, or at least selected ones
20. Tchill13 - Strongest TR, though I'm susceptible to the same agreement bias that I was so kind to point out earlier
21. Saudade - Feels antitown as fuck but I believe I have a major playstyle clash with him. So it's more of a null than scum thing

I would not be the slightest bit surprised if at least 2 scum are in the A's plus the lurkers.
{Auro, Alchemist, Aristophanes, 5G, Creature, Hoctac, Jake, gobbledygook} are the slots I most want to sort.
The A's probably have enough content but require me to do work to sort. Auro is least likely in that list but most dangerous.
The lurkers need to post
useful stuff
or perish. That means taking stances on reads and backing those stances up with evidence.
Thank you, very helpful.

I know these are surface level observations from you but I will not ask for more detail on all of them.

Please give me your case on Town!Tchill. I would love more in depth thoughts here.

P.S. Still waters run deep. I have always appreciated your patience, dave.
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Post Post #2989 (ISO) » Sat May 16, 2020 3:57 pm

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Quick talks like we've played together. Has to be an alt (or we've played on an alt of his), I checked my topics list and couldn't find anything.
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Post Post #2990 (ISO) » Sat May 16, 2020 3:58 pm

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Post Post #2991 (ISO) » Sat May 16, 2020 4:00 pm

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more Dave votes plox
Of all tyrannies,a tyranny sincerely exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive. It would be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies. The robber baron's cruelty may sometimes sleep but those who torment us for our own good will torment us without end they do so with the approval of their own conscience.

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Post Post #2992 (ISO) » Sat May 16, 2020 4:00 pm

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Image

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Post Post #2993 (ISO) » Sat May 16, 2020 4:03 pm

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Post Post #2994 (ISO) » Sat May 16, 2020 4:12 pm

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@nero: here's a link. Don't know why it's so long.
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Post Post #2995 (ISO) » Sat May 16, 2020 4:25 pm

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ok? why send me a link and not use your words?
Of all tyrannies,a tyranny sincerely exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive. It would be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies. The robber baron's cruelty may sometimes sleep but those who torment us for our own good will torment us without end they do so with the approval of their own conscience.

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Post Post #2996 (ISO) » Sat May 16, 2020 4:42 pm

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I figured it was easier to show you you’re wrong than it is to tell you.
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Post Post #2997 (ISO) » Sat May 16, 2020 4:50 pm

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In post 2984, Nero Cain wrote:this seems like way more effort then Dave has ever put into a game.
Have you seen him put this kind of effort as scum before?
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Post Post #2998 (ISO) » Sat May 16, 2020 4:53 pm

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Where art thou o Greatest of All Hens?
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Post Post #2999 (ISO) » Sat May 16, 2020 4:58 pm

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In post 2991, Nero Cain wrote:more Dave votes plox
No. While I found his rather unnecessarily annoyed attitude a bit scummy, I think as scum he'd continue to exhibit and direct play with that attitude exclusively.

Posting a readslist with some progress towards a solve doesn't fit with that. If the intent were to "look towny" he'd probably easily have more solid stances on most of the plist.

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