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Post Post #3150 (ISO) » Sun May 17, 2020 10:11 am

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In post 3147, davesaz wrote:
In post 3145, Quick wrote:
In post 3144, davesaz wrote:@Nadhia: Look at the d1 player list before replacements. Just the list in a vacuum, without considering actual contributions.
If scum wanted to mislynch potential power town as defined by reputation alone, who are the top 3 candidates for potential power town?
Others may answer if they like.
There is a reason for the question, that I'll keep to myself for now.
I pretty much never look at PRs. Don't need to as Town.
That is a misinterpretation, but I understand the reason for it.

Not power roles.
Power town. The kind of people who can drive a solve. Paragon candidates.
In that case... My PT list is:

FL
Myself (yup, I am confident I will solve this game at some point in the game)
and possibly mastina (given she is Town).
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Post Post #3151 (ISO) » Sun May 17, 2020 10:12 am

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In post 3143, Quick wrote:
In post 3142, Hoctac wrote:VOTE: Alchemist
Gunna have to do better than this or you're just Scum.
I’ll keep this post in mind for future reference.
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Post Post #3152 (ISO) » Sun May 17, 2020 10:13 am

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In post 3150, Quick wrote:
In post 3147, davesaz wrote:
In post 3145, Quick wrote:
In post 3144, davesaz wrote:@Nadhia: Look at the d1 player list before replacements. Just the list in a vacuum, without considering actual contributions.
If scum wanted to mislynch potential power town as defined by reputation alone, who are the top 3 candidates for potential power town?
Others may answer if they like.
There is a reason for the question, that I'll keep to myself for now.
I pretty much never look at PRs. Don't need to as Town.
That is a misinterpretation, but I understand the reason for it.

Not power roles.
Power town. The kind of people who can drive a solve. Paragon candidates.
In that case... My PT list is:

FL
Myself (yup, I am confident I will solve this game at some point in the game)
and possibly mastina (given she is Town).
Your forgetting about me. :?
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Post Post #3153 (ISO) » Sun May 17, 2020 10:14 am

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In post 3151, TrueSoulEnergy wrote:
In post 3143, Quick wrote:
In post 3142, Hoctac wrote:VOTE: Alchemist
Gunna have to do better than this or you're just Scum.
I’ll keep this post in mind for future reference.
Please ISO hactoc and let me know what you think of my comment after the fact. I understand you have probably not read much of the game. Hactoc is a good push at this point.
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Post Post #3154 (ISO) » Sun May 17, 2020 10:15 am

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I wouldn’t disagree with you. I’ll wait to see how Hactoc reacts towards this.
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Post Post #3155 (ISO) » Sun May 17, 2020 10:16 am

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In post 3146, davesaz wrote:50JP townread is increasing. There are very few people I would TR for that reason, in fact for many I would SR them making the exact same posts. This is a fairly accurate sorting method for 50.
Since I am feeling the same vibe, I’ll Town Read Dave.
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Post Post #3156 (ISO) » Sun May 17, 2020 10:34 am

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In post 3124, Nahdia wrote:Town who do that come off as "i'm not putting too much thought into what people think of me" whereas scum who do it read more as "i don't want to take any stances besides ones i can find a hard justification for but i'm still trying not to fall too far to the background" (see: the mastina vote, his apparent "scumslip" on ETL which he didn't follow up on)
I know that that applies to town in general, but my experience with and knowledge of Saudade shifts that. As to the other part, yes; identification so the cure targets are easier.
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Post Post #3157 (ISO) » Sun May 17, 2020 10:37 am

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In post 3130, Flavor Leaf wrote:Auro’s just OMGUS’ing because I caught him out this game Day 1.
No, it's because I offered a solid defense and you escaped from the conversation :P
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Post Post #3158 (ISO) » Sun May 17, 2020 10:38 am

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In post 3136, 50 Judge Powers wrote:
In post 3065, Auro wrote:I've redacted one part of these deductions for a reason, so don't ask
OK, but why? :P :P :P
I'll tell you if it happens ;)
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Post Post #3159 (ISO) » Sun May 17, 2020 11:59 am

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VOTE: TrueSoulEnergy
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Post Post #3160 (ISO) » Sun May 17, 2020 12:00 pm

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Oh nevermind, forgot it is Vecna
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Post Post #3161 (ISO) » Sun May 17, 2020 12:00 pm

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In post 1, Covid 19 wrote:and do not use provable randomness.
Man...
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Post Post #3162 (ISO) » Sun May 17, 2020 12:00 pm

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didn't want to have to open random.org
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Post Post #3163 (ISO) » Sun May 17, 2020 12:01 pm

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1. Creature
2. Auro
3. Hoctac
4. 5G Tower
5. Jake the Wolfie
6. Aristophanes
7. Quick
8. TrueSoulEnergy
9. Voted
10. Alchemist21
11. Nahdia
12. Flavor Leaf
13. gobbledygook
14. davesaz
16. 50 Judge Powers
17. mastina
18. Miss Lynch
19. Nero Cain
20. Tchill13
21. Saudade
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Post Post #3164 (ISO) » Sun May 17, 2020 12:01 pm

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20 it is

VOTE: Tchill13
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Post Post #3165 (ISO) » Sun May 17, 2020 12:01 pm

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Guess I'm happy here
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Post Post #3166 (ISO) » Sun May 17, 2020 12:02 pm

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Btw, if someone's infected, I'd thank if you warned
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Post Post #3167 (ISO) » Sun May 17, 2020 12:03 pm

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In post 2702, Covid 19 wrote:EspeciallyTheLies (11) (HAMMER @ 2684): EspeciallyTheLies (1645), Nero Cain (1710), Hoctac (2449), Quick (2504), Miss Lynch (2558), Vecna (2589), Elements (2594), Auro (2597), Flavor Leaf (2638), mastina (2663), 5G Tower (2684)
Oh...

I guess Tchill now looks boring when there are that many scummy players here
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Post Post #3168 (ISO) » Sun May 17, 2020 12:04 pm

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1. EspeciallyTheLies (1645)
2. Nero Cain (1710)
3. Hoctac (2449)
4. Quick (2504)
5. Miss Lynch (2558)
6. Vecna (2589)
7. Elements (2594)
8. Auro (2597)
9. Flavor Leaf (2638)
10. mastina (2663)
11. 5G Tower (2684)

Should I random.org again?
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Post Post #3169 (ISO) » Sun May 17, 2020 12:07 pm

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I'll randomize a page instead
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Post Post #3170 (ISO) » Sun May 17, 2020 12:08 pm

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In post 579, Miss Lane wrote:mastina is a good lynch

ETL is a less good lynch but still better than a lot of the other proposed lynches

I will vote for either of these wagons

When there is game progression past or seriously contesting these points, I will be more present than most players will feel comfortable with. Until then, I intend to engage minimally so as to not inflate the thread unnecessarily.
In post 580, Miss Lane wrote:
In post 578, Elements wrote:Aristophanes town
Every time you post I want to call you scum.

Even when I'm scum and I know you're town.

It's just so bad all the time.
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Post Post #3171 (ISO) » Sun May 17, 2020 12:09 pm

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In post 578, Elements wrote:Aristophanes town
In post 582, Elements wrote:
In post 580, Miss Lane wrote:
In post 578, Elements wrote:Aristophanes town
Every time you post I want to call you scum.

Even when I'm scum and I know you're town.

It's just so bad all the time.
all part of my charm
In post 585, Elements wrote:
In post 580, Miss Lane wrote:
In post 578, Elements wrote:Aristophanes town
Every time you post I want to call you scum.

Even when I'm scum and I know you're town.

It's just so bad all the time.
I think it's that I post like I'm playing irl mafia
I'm gonna say I still feel Elements is town
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Post Post #3172 (ISO) » Sun May 17, 2020 12:12 pm

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In post 592, mastina wrote:
Spoiler:
In post 503, Elements wrote:why are you obvtown?
Well. For multiple reasons.
I am exuding the aura of townness I normally do, and very very strongly so.
My energy for this game
hasn't
faded (yet, at least), whereas as scum my energy can and does fade very very very rapidly.
I have a unique presence that is something I can't manage as scum.

My scumgame has very very very obviously atrophied to the point of not being great and there are multiple games in Coney Island where this lack of skill at playing scum has shown itself rather prominently. (Granted, yes, there are extenuating circumstances, excuses which "justify" the lack of performance, but you can only make so many excuses before facing the facts that I just cannot put my heart into scum right now and just am not in any way a good, active scum player.)

My towngames have a unique aura where I just...radiate a level of townness to me. Sometimes it's subtle; in Doubles Mafia, for instance, it was subtle enough that I understood why I wasn't instantly being townread because the aura that game was different from my normal town aura. (I could still tell I was radiating a town aura, but I could also tell it was a different town aura from my normal town aura.) This game though that town aura is stronger than it's been in any other game this year.

The content I have given thusfar has already shown a level of whimsy to it that I can't create as scum, where there's a level of spontaneity to it which is utterly absent from my scumgame. I just instantly went with the flow, just went with what felt right, just went with my feelings, in a way I am incapable of doing as scum, where things clearly had no plan to them (whereas when scum I am always stunted and stilted by having a plan).

There's a nuance to my reads where I have shown my thoughts in a way that as scum I can't replicate.

All in all, the question isn't why I am obvtown; it's why in mod's name I
wouldn't
be obvtown, and there is, quite literally, no reason, because this is thoroughly my towngame and absolutely not my scumgame.

The closest reason there would be to me not being obvtown would be that I am making posts like this rather than posts where I further scumreads on slots--but
even that point isn't valid
, because I already
have
furthered my reads and am more or less posting this because I can and feel like it, because I already did what I need to.

Like.
In post 421, mastina wrote:Nero Cain
No łynch

Miss Lynch
Hoctac

Auro
Vecna
Flavor Leaf

Tchill13

farside22

momo
5G Tower
Jake the Wolfie
davesaz
Odelschwanck
Allan90

Saudade
50 Judge Powers



Elements
Alchemist21

EspeciallyTheLies

Approximately: locktown of locktown; strong town; townreads; weaker townreads; townleans; utter nulls; scumleans; weakish (but not weaker) scumreads; scumread.
Nero Cain is the locktown of locktowns because this is Nero's towngame through and through. His alignment is pretty much always transparent and this game is no exception; anyone even remotely familiar with him will be able to tell that he is instantly insanely town.

No Lynch claimed a role that I believe to be a real role that I don't think scum would fakeclaim (and, inherent to its nature, can't be a scum realclaim). It's basically a half-bulletproof, half-innocent-child claim.

I am pretty sure that this is Miss Lynch's towngame. It's not an absolute the same as Nero, because I am less familiar with Miss Lynch and even if I weren't, Miss Lynch is not the type of player with a night-and-day difference between their towngame and scumgame (whereas Nero Cain is), so the townread is not absolute. It is still fairly strong though because I have liked the content Miss Lynch has given and it has seemed genuine, with Miss Lynch's posting coming across as sincere.

Plus, Hoctac claimed an innocent result on them. While I've my skepticism as to the legitimacy/validity of this roleclaim, the fact is still that Miss Lynch is disproportionately more likely to be town than scum.

Speaking of Hoctac, aside from the claim which is more likely to come from town than scum regardless of its legitimacy/validity, Hoctac's content has felt overwhelmingly town here. Again, not familiar enough with the player to put them on the absolute locktown of locktown tiers that is the Nero Cain townread tier, butstill, far far FAR more likely to be town than scum.

I already explained my townreads on Auro and Vecna--simply put, both are doing the right things that make me think that they're more likely town than not, but they haven't done those things to the extent where I would locktown them, because neither is outside of their scum range yet. While both are far more likely to be town than not, they haven't done anything which pushes them over the edge into definitely town yet.

Flavor Leaf's posts this game have sucked ass and they're not only posts that would make me naturally inclined to scumread any slot, but are also posts that I could easily see a disheartened FL make after rolling scum
again
. HOWEVER, I got the impression, specifically because it is FL, that it wasn't disinterest at a scum role PM and that the scummy content wasn't scum, that it was just FL being low on investment as town.

TChill I already explained all there is to that read pretty much--it does look more likely to be town than scum, but Tchill's a skilled enough scum player that it could be from scum and I am not familiar enough with his meta to make a more definitive conclusion about him.

farside I initially thought was a likely ETL partner due to her early defense of content which was self-evidently scummy in nature, especially when farside is the type of player who I would expect to be making the accusation
against
ETL about her forced content being, well...forced. But after seeing her continued posting, I got the impression that she was just wrong-town defending a read she sincerely believes in, because her stances feel fluid and organic. It's not a strong read whatsoever though and mostly boils down to gut.

The nulls are all nulls for good reason. Aside from those that haven't posted, Jake the Wolfie's post was the most nai of nai posts possible. And davesaz is...well, davesaz; his posts don't give me any vibes of his alignment at all yet and I don't expect they will for quite a while, possibly not even until D2. He's a player who is incredibly hard to get any semblance of a real read early on but who becomes incredibly easy to read later on.

Saudade's entrance and content in this game immediately reeked of being very probably scum (in hindsight, should probably be below Almost50 here).

Almost50's content this game more or less feels like it's all out of balance from where it feels it should be. A level of seriousness, mixed with a level of inactivity. If Almost50 were town, I'd expect either the seriousness to be accompanied by a slough of posts, or for there to be inactivity accompanied by a ton of lighthearted jokiness. The splitting the difference, half of one half of the other, feels like it is more likely to come from scum than town.

Elements hasn't made a post which looks town all game long. I realize Elements is a frequently scummy player anyway--but I usually can still get some idea of Elements being town when he is town, and I'm not getting it at all this game.

I could go into my Alch read more but right now I'm deliberately avoiding doing so.

And my ETL read I already went into.

So this is literally all the content I can give, in one post--nothing I can say will further game content more than the latter half of this post does, so everything I post past this point is going to be superfluous, which allows me to make posts like the beginning of this post was.
I see wallstina is present

Guess I'll take an ISO look here
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Post Post #3173 (ISO) » Sun May 17, 2020 12:13 pm

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In post 394, mastina wrote:Quick question; is this a game everyone is treating dead seriously or is it a game people are kinda going to meme about and not take too seriously? Asking because it makes a difference in how much effort I put in. I kinda assumed this game was the latter and am going in with that expectation, but if it's the former I'll need to shape up and put some more work in.
In post 396, mastina wrote:
In post 6, EspeciallyTheLies wrote:so many choices! VOTE: mastina
Out of all the games we could be reunited in, I'm kinda disappointed it's one which I am assuming is a meme game. I'd legit be interested to see you and me interact in a dead serious game and to hear your assessment of me, of whether I'm pretty much the same or if I've changed (presumably for the worse but who knows), and if so, how/in what ways.

Alas.

Maybe next time. <3
In post 397, mastina wrote:
In post 14, Miss Lane wrote:Nero, are you related to Eddie Came in any way?
Eh, they have
vaguely
similar styles of play, but are very much distinctly different players.

Also, might be a meme game but first instinct:
VOTE: EspeciallyTheLies.

Not gonna even pretend I'd have any gauge of ETL's meta years-later. Even if I did have perfect memory of how she played (and I most decidedly do not), the years of absence probably did change said meta anyway. But like.

Instant vibe from her opening?

Even in a meme game (or, you could say,
especially
in a meme game), probably just scum.
mastina is really missing an important key that makes her feel like scum
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Post Post #3174 (ISO) » Sun May 17, 2020 12:14 pm

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In post 3128, Quick wrote:
In post 3126, Flavor Leaf wrote:
In post 2969, Quick wrote:And Tchill is Scum based on meta as well. Will link the game I am thinking of where I literally screamed that Tchill was Scum and then FL screamed at me back for, get this, not believing his claim.

GLHF.

Was this the game that I wanted to PL you as conf town
Yup.
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