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Post Post #3375 (ISO) » Mon May 18, 2020 6:35 am

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Also, this is the legacy Saudade would have wanted XD
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Post Post #3376 (ISO) » Mon May 18, 2020 6:36 am

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In post 3372, gobbledygook wrote:
In post 3370, Tchill13 wrote:
In post 3368, Alchemist21 wrote:The actual content of her posts is Town. She’s laying out every single read in a way that anyone can see the progression and how they’ve developed. I also doubt scum goes this hard on a self meta argument.
scum cant do that? Just because she has more time and effort she's town right? cool.
I mean... yeah lol. You sound unhappy about this development, though. Are you unhappy because of the principle of the reads on Mastina or is it something else?
its a bit annoying that you can just effort your way to town with multiple long posts.

I understand the progressions make sense but if everyone was town for that scum wins would be pretty damn easy.
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Post Post #3377 (ISO) » Mon May 18, 2020 6:40 am

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In post 3376, Tchill13 wrote:
In post 3372, gobbledygook wrote:
In post 3370, Tchill13 wrote:
In post 3368, Alchemist21 wrote:The actual content of her posts is Town. She’s laying out every single read in a way that anyone can see the progression and how they’ve developed. I also doubt scum goes this hard on a self meta argument.
scum cant do that? Just because she has more time and effort she's town right? cool.
I mean... yeah lol. You sound unhappy about this development, though. Are you unhappy because of the principle of the reads on Mastina or is it something else?
its a bit annoying that you can just effort your way to town with multiple long posts.

I understand the progressions make sense but if everyone was town for that scum wins would be pretty damn easy.
I mean, I don't think this is necessarily the guess. Maybe in the long term what you're saying is right. It would be hard to lynch someone if they gave a few effort posts. But in the long term I think you are wrong. It is hard for scum to continually put in the same amount of effort that they do as town (if they have a large disparity meta-wise).

At any rate, Mastina is not worth dealing with right now. She's either town and will get nightkilled hopefully or she will just lurk until later in the game and we lynch her. :P

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Post Post #3378 (ISO) » Mon May 18, 2020 6:46 am

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In post 3376, Tchill13 wrote:
In post 3372, gobbledygook wrote:
In post 3370, Tchill13 wrote:
In post 3368, Alchemist21 wrote:The actual content of her posts is Town. She’s laying out every single read in a way that anyone can see the progression and how they’ve developed. I also doubt scum goes this hard on a self meta argument.
scum cant do that? Just because she has more time and effort she's town right? cool.
I mean... yeah lol. You sound unhappy about this development, though. Are you unhappy because of the principle of the reads on Mastina or is it something else?
its a bit annoying that you can just effort your way to town with multiple long posts.

I understand the progressions make sense but if everyone was town for that scum wins would be pretty damn easy.
What is your read on me?
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Post Post #3379 (ISO) » Mon May 18, 2020 6:48 am

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quick is actually prob town I just dont care for the slot or what theyre doing.

5g can go.

nahdia/elements id have to iso.
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Post Post #3380 (ISO) » Mon May 18, 2020 6:50 am

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Nahdia, why did you scumread 5G and Creature?
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Post Post #3381 (ISO) » Mon May 18, 2020 6:55 am

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In post 3245, mastina wrote:True! You'd be in the list of suspects if not for the fact that you're literally an innocent child.
I am an innocent child?
Good to know.
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Post Post #3382 (ISO) » Mon May 18, 2020 6:57 am

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In post 3376, Tchill13 wrote:
In post 3372, gobbledygook wrote:
In post 3370, Tchill13 wrote:
In post 3368, Alchemist21 wrote:The actual content of her posts is Town. She’s laying out every single read in a way that anyone can see the progression and how they’ve developed. I also doubt scum goes this hard on a self meta argument.
scum cant do that? Just because she has more time and effort she's town right? cool.
I mean... yeah lol. You sound unhappy about this development, though. Are you unhappy because of the principle of the reads on Mastina or is it something else?
its a bit annoying that you can just effort your way to town with multiple long posts.

I understand the progressions make sense but if everyone was town for that scum wins would be pretty damn easy.
It’s not about the effort as much as being able to clearly see her thought process, and I don’t see any scum motivation in what she’s saying.
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Post Post #3383 (ISO) » Mon May 18, 2020 7:01 am

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In post 3324, gobbledygook wrote:OkaPoka is a damn newb for abandoning me :,(

Oka should I be townreading you? I would like to hydra this game
YES YOU SHOULD BE TOWNREADING ME

WE CAN PRETEND TO BE A DOUBLEVOTER HYDRA

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Post Post #3384 (ISO) » Mon May 18, 2020 7:02 am

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I think Tchill's approach to mastina is town motivated. The things he's pointing out like inconsistencies in mastina's ETL positions are good things to catch. I think doubting self meta, especially when it's being offered as a defense under practically no pressure, is something town should doubt. I think it would be risky for scum to push against those walls, and against the majority opinion.

I have those reservations about mastina too. I see enough town in her posting that it now outweighs the scum points. Her answer to the question I asked also tilts the scale toward town, though it is possible that she anticipated what I was really asking and avoided it.
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Post Post #3385 (ISO) » Mon May 18, 2020 7:09 am

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In post 3358, davesaz wrote:
In post 3354, Nero Cain wrote:I'm still here but not all that interested in this game. Still feel Dave and tchill should die. And a50.
You certainly like controversial stances this game. I don't see scum trying to take this particular hill. Or at least not at this time.
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Post Post #3386 (ISO) » Mon May 18, 2020 7:29 am

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In post 3371, gobbledygook wrote:Why do you want Dave and A50? What do you think of Quick, 5G, and Elements/Nadhia?
I might elaborate on Dave more later but if you really don't want to wait you can read my ISO and get a p good gist of it. Its just gut, I feel like he's somewhat different than usual Dave. a50 spent D1 talking about mechanics and today I didn't like his Quick vote. There's also a weird thing where Dave light defended a50 since he (a50) apparently does talk about mechanics alot. But I don't really remember that.

I
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feel like Quick might be town for his effort. I'm somewhat concerned with his weird a50 stance. He goes from claiming a50 has good content and isn't really able to back that up. I made a post about it. You could also interpret his D1 vote hoping as scum that's trying to look busy.

5g is nullish I guess. Gimmick alts are lame and are the lowest form of comedy.

Ele was p null too. IG you could interpret Nadhia's scum read of me and not engaging me as scum hedging that's too afraid to engage me. I agree'd with her that the mechanic's discussion should stop (since its a good place for scum to hide) so IG thats town unless you really wanted to interpret it as
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The distinctive coastal and inland habitats of the Falklands support a wide variety of flora and fauna. In particular, the waters of the surrounding South Atlantic are rich in marine life, encouraging predators at the top of the food web such as albatrosses, penguins and seals. Over half the Islands' 64 breeding species are dependent on the sea for food. In international terms, the Falkland Islands are very important for their seabird and marine mammal populations. Colonies of nocturnal burrowing petrels exist on a few islands. More than 70% of the world’s black-browed albatrosses (globally endangered) and 75% of the southern form of rockhopper penguins (vulnerable) breed in the Falklands. Another 8 bird species which nest on the island are of global conservation concern, including the Macaroni Penguin, the southern giant and white-chinned petrels and the Cobb’s wren. The Islands are home to 17 endemic species of bird.

Between 1995 and 2000, the population of black-browed albatrosses is estimated to have fallen by about 18%. It is thought that this is due in large part to longline fishing and trawling in the south-west Atlantic, although climatic factors may also be playing a role. The population has fallen by 70% since the 1930s. Petrels are also vulnerable to longline fishing and the Cobb’s wren is predated by the alien brown rat. Islands that have not been infested by rats support good populations of this bird.

In addition to breeding populations, the offshore waters support large numbers of migrant seabirds which move north at the start of the winter.

The Falkland flightless steamer duck or logger duck can be found in coastal areas along with kelp geese and crested duck; Oystercatchers, night herons and three species of gulls feed along the shore. Terns, white-rumped sandpipers and skuas are summer visitors. In places where there are freshwater ponds, especially near the coast, the upland goose and ruddy-headed Brent goose have contributed to the formation of fine green grass by continued cropping. Teal, widgeon, grebe and other species frequent such areas. Many species of bird are also found inland. Some offshore islands are the home of a rare bird of prey, the Striated Caracara or “Johnny Rook”, found only on the Falkland Islands and some islands off Cape Horn. 22 Important Bird Areas have been designated.

There are few trees on the Falklands. The natural vegetation consists of coastal fringes of tussac grass, oceanic heath, acid grassland, peat bog and upland feldmark communities. Tussac is the tallest native plant and originally formed stands around the coasts, extending at least 200 m and sometimes 800 m inland, and covering small islands. On the main islands and many of those offshore the vegetation has been degraded by accidental or agricultural burning and grazing by sheep, cattle, pigs, horses and, more recently, guanaco, reindeer and goats. Tussac has almost disappeared from the coasts, and only survives in its original state on some relatively remote offshore islands. The vascular plant flora comprise some 170 native taxa, of which 14 are considered endemic. 25 endemic mosses have also been identified. There are 180 recorded introduced plant species. 23 plants on FI were included in the 2003 IUCN Red List of Threatened Species. Populations are being threatened by invasive alien species, grazing animals and habitat destruction.

No native land mammals are left on the Falklands. Around the coasts, southern sea lions and southern elephant seals breed in colonies of up to 300 pairs, and at a few remote rocky sites there are colonies of up to several thousand South American fur seals. Three species of seal breed on the Islands, elephant seal, sea lion and fur seal. Dolphins are often seen. Fifteen species of whale and dolphin occur in the surrounding seas.

Only two native species of freshwater fish are widely known on FI: the zebra trout and Falklands minnow. The latter is abundant, and there appears to be little reason for serious concern for its survival. By contrast the zebra trout is regarded as seriously threatened. Brown trout, first introduced to the Falklands in the 1940s, have thrived and become abundant.

In a land without native trees, reptiles, amphibians or surviving terrestrial mammals, the insect life forms a very important part of the islands’ ecology. About 350 insect species have been recorded, of which a large percentage are endemic, with new species continuing to be discovered.

The permanent population of about 2700 has been boosted by a temporary British garrison which has been on the island since the Argentine invasion. The population is currently growing at about 2½% yearly.

In the past economic development was hindered by a lack of natural resources, the small size of the population, and the remoteness of external markets. Wool was the traditional mainstay of the economy and principal export. Since 1982 the pace of economic development has accelerated. This rapid growth resulted initially from the influx of aid from Britain but more recently from the development of fisheries. The size of the fisheries revenues and their subsequent investment has enabled improvements to be made in infrastructure. Since 1987 the primary source of income has been the sale of fishing licences to foreign squid and finfish fleets operating within the Falkland Islands' exclusive fishing zone. License fees are variable, but can exceed €35 million per year. The fisheries generate roughly half of the government’s revenue. Squid accounts for 75% of the fish taken.

The fishing potential of the waters around the islands is considerable. Commercial fishing in the southwest Atlantic commenced in the early 1970s, but did not have much impact on the Falkland Islands until the introduction of the Falklands Interim Conservation and Management Zone in October 1986 and of licences in February 1987, in response to concern about the increasing levels of uncontrolled fishing close to the islands. This reduced the number of vessels fishing in FI waters from 600 to around 200.

The main resources which occur in the fishery are illex squid, fished principally by specialised squid jigging vessels from the Far East, and the loligo squid, fished mainly by FI trawlers. In addition the fishery has a number of finfish including blue whiting, hake and hoki.

The fisheries are managed by the Fisheries Department. Catch data is collected on a daily basis and passed to Imperial College in London, which helps the government monitor stocks accurately. The fishing effort is controlled by limiting the number of vessels licensed to fish within the zone. The illex squid poses serious conservation problems as it is a migratory species with a one-year lifespan. Illex spend part of their life cycle on the high seas where they are subject to a largely uncontrolled fishing effort. There is no international body which manages the fisheries in the south-west Atlantic.

A South Atlantic Fisheries Commission has been set up by Britain and Argentina to explore ways of improving conservation of migratory and straddling stocks, but in recent years (2005/2006) Argentina has reduced co-operation with the SAFC and attempts to promote a RFMO have stalled. In recent years both Argentina and the Falkland Islands have closed their respective fisheries for illex earlier than the scheduled end to the season in order to conserve stocks.

The fishery presents commercial opportunities for Falklands companies to provide support services to the fishing fleets, and to become increasingly involved in the fishery themselves.

A dramatic reduction in the illex catches in recent years underlines the precarious nature of this resource: average catches in the FI zones reduced from over 100,000 tonnes per year to less than 10,000 tonnes per year in 2003/ 2004 (1800 tons in 2004, some recovery in 2005). Catches in the Southwest Atlantic generally were higher. This decrease is thought to be due to a combination of non-regulated fishing on the high seas and poor recruitment due to changing oceanographic conditions.

The shelf around the Falkland Islands may contain hydrocarbon resources. The FIG announced a 200mile oil exploration zone around the islands in 1993, and early seismic surveys suggest substantial reserves capable of producing 500,000 barrels per day. Exploratory drilling is expected in the North Falkland basin in 2007. Exploration for gold is also ongoing.

Tourism is increasing rapidly. A basic infrastructure exists to support land tourism. The Islands attract birdwatchers, wildlife enthusiasts, photographers and anglers. Cruise ship visits have increased from 5000 passengers in 1995/96 to over 40,000 in 2005/06. This rise in numbers is mostly due to an increase in the worldwide cruise industry.

Sheep farming makes up 95% of the Islands' agricultural activity. The Department of Agriculture is seeking to increase the profitability of the Islands’ 90 farms.

Another large source of income is interest paid on government bank deposits. The British military presence also provides a sizeable economic boost.
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Post Post #3388 (ISO) » Mon May 18, 2020 7:31 am

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(I wanted to post a wall)
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Post Post #3389 (ISO) » Mon May 18, 2020 7:32 am

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Post Post #3390 (ISO) » Mon May 18, 2020 7:33 am

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Faulk-off XD
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Post Post #3391 (ISO) » Mon May 18, 2020 7:34 am

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Oh whoops, I added a "u" where there is not one.

Classic Canadian blunder, my apologies!
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Post Post #3392 (ISO) » Mon May 18, 2020 7:34 am

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In post 3387, Voted wrote:The distinctive coastal and inland habitats...
lol'd not reading this.
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Post Post #3393 (ISO) » Mon May 18, 2020 7:37 am

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In post 3343, Jake The Wolfie wrote:Let's just lynch Saudade so no one has to replace in for them
Yes. Let's lynch another person without a claim.
VOTE: Saudade
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Post Post #3394 (ISO) » Mon May 18, 2020 7:40 am

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In post 385, Null Vote wrote:
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Hoctac(5)
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Vecna(2)
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No łynch(2)
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Tchill13(1)
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Saudade(1)
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Not Voting (10): momo(0), 5G Tower(0), Jake the Wolfie(1), Odelschwanck(0), Allan90(0), (10), Flavor Leaf(10), mastina(0), Saudade(7), 50 Judge Power

With 21 alive it takes 11 to lynch.

Day 1 deadline is in (expired on 2020-05-19 13:00:00)


FAKE MOD REMINDERSNo Łynch is confirmed innocent child.
I think that Mastina could have been misleaded by this fake mod reminders.
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Post Post #3395 (ISO) » Mon May 18, 2020 8:06 am

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This is why you're in the townbloc, Voted.
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Post Post #3396 (ISO) » Mon May 18, 2020 8:10 am

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In post 3393, Voted wrote:
In post 3343, Jake The Wolfie wrote:Let's just lynch Saudade so no one has to replace in for them
Yes. Let's lynch another person without a claim.
VOTE: Saudade
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Post Post #3397 (ISO) » Mon May 18, 2020 8:12 am

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In post 3384, davesaz wrote:I think doubting self meta, especially when it's being offered as a defense under practically no pressure,
But when you consider that said person *loves* talking about themselves...
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Post Post #3398 (ISO) » Mon May 18, 2020 8:13 am

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Ari seems like he's having fun, which makes him Town?
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Post Post #3399 (ISO) » Mon May 18, 2020 8:14 am

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In post 3382, Alchemist21 wrote:
In post 3376, Tchill13 wrote:
In post 3372, gobbledygook wrote:
In post 3370, Tchill13 wrote:
In post 3368, Alchemist21 wrote:The actual content of her posts is Town. She’s laying out every single read in a way that anyone can see the progression and how they’ve developed. I also doubt scum goes this hard on a self meta argument.
scum cant do that? Just because she has more time and effort she's town right? cool.
I mean... yeah lol. You sound unhappy about this development, though. Are you unhappy because of the principle of the reads on Mastina or is it something else?
its a bit annoying that you can just effort your way to town with multiple long posts.

I understand the progressions make sense but if everyone was town for that scum wins would be pretty damn easy.
It’s not about the effort as much as being able to clearly see her thought process, and I don’t see any scum motivation in what she’s saying.
Can you talk a bit more about "reading between the lines" of mastinias posts, because this seems a bit TMI.
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