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Great, if you stick to that list, we lose.
We lost on acryon.
We need to lynch in my pool. I don't know how much clearer I can make it. We have one mislynch remaining. Most likely it's blown on Skitter or me. The other is forced (due to optimal lylo play) to place our vote first. This puts the burden on us when you haven't been listening in the first place.
Half of you are lurking in shame. That's not the response. The response is to refuckingset and try listening.ShowThe scum had the misfortune of Titus being absurdly accurate on day one.Really quite impressed by that.~Drixx
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Of course I'll listen. I can't guarantee that I'll change my mind.
You want to restate the crux of your arguments so that I don't have to go dig for them?
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I think you might want to reset on skitter as well, though, because if you're town then it looks like she was TMI'ing pretty hard on you.
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How about you case Skitter without stating in general her play sucks or PoE?In post 2177, The Limit Does Not Exist wrote:I think you might want to reset on skitter as well, though, because if you're town then it looks like she was TMI'ing pretty hard on you.
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I'll restate my VCA again, including who is clear and why.
I do admit if I am wrong on Skitter, then she probably has the most use for me out of anyone. A free mislynch that defends me, sign me up.
I just feel that strongly I am not wrong. The Skitter in team mafia was competent and carried. This skitter is not a carry at all.ShowThe scum had the misfortune of Titus being absurdly accurate on day one.Really quite impressed by that.~Drixx
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In post 700, northsidegal wrote:Votecount 1.17
Target Wagon Allomancer(3)nomnomnom (211), GuiltyLion (229), Eve (533) Eve(3)Auro (330), BBmolla (354), acryon (378) acryon(1)Allomancer (215) GuiltyLion(1)skitter30 (612) skitter30(1)The Limit Does Not Exist (643) Not Voting(2)SausasaurusRex (219), Karnage (299)
With 11 alive, it takes 6 to lynch. The Day 1 deadline is in (expired on 2020-05-03 00:18:59).In post 756, northsidegal wrote:Votecount 1.19
Target Wagon Allomancer(4)nomnomnom (211), Eve (533), acryon (711), The Limit Does Not Exist (713) Eve(2)Auro (330), BBmolla (354) acryon(1)Allomancer (215) GuiltyLion(1)skitter30 (612) Not Voting(3)SausasaurusRex (219), Karnage (299), GuiltyLion (717)
With 11 alive, it takes 6 to lynch. The Day 1 deadline is in (expired on 2020-05-03 00:18:59).
Let's look at these three VCs.In post 1100, northsidegal wrote:Votecount 1.20
Target Wagon Eve(3)nomnomnom (963), acryon (1036), The Limit Does Not Exist (1039) nomnomnom(3)Eve (868), skitter30 (1055), GuiltyLion (1076) Allomancer(1)SausasaurusRex (802) Karnage(1)Allomancer (850) Not Voting(4)BBmolla (786), Karnage (1028), Auro (1041)
With 11 alive, it takes 6 to lynch. The Day 1 deadline is in (expired on 2020-05-03 00:18:59).
Apologies for my absence. It will not happen again.
Eve is the counterwagon to Allomancer, known town.
Eve is the counterwagon to nomnom, known town.
Eve is the counterwagon to acryon, known town.
We know Auro is town too.
Now let's apply that to these VCs.
Before you rant about wagon positioning, that doesn't count if the lynch is undecided.
If we suppose Eve is town, then scum didn't care who was lynched on the Allomancer or Eve wagons(1.17). They'd be fine with either one.
We see a largely town wagon on Eve in 1.17. Auro, BBMolla, Acryon
The question is then, why does a Nom counterwagon arise instead? Why did the Eve wagon shift names?
We see a new wagon of Nom acryon and TLDNE on Eve in 1.20.
Nom has eve, skitter and GL. Except for Skitter, GL and Eve were both on Allomancer. Skitter has had eyes for GuiltyLion.
Skitter has been out front trying to lynch GuiltyLion and instead gets left off the lynch at the end "for the traffic analyst" who was likely dead anyway? [Setting aside that being a bonehead idea, it does suggest general sentiment.] This reeks of isolating Skitter to discredit her. No one can tell me Skitter hasn't tried here.
Scum on Day 1 want to sheep. This let's them see a hood and control information without drawing attention to themselves.
Also, unless you want to argue town pride, scum keep saving Eve. They value Eve. Most likely she is scum.ShowThe scum had the misfortune of Titus being absurdly accurate on day one.Really quite impressed by that.~Drixx
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In post 2050, northsidegal wrote:Votecount 2.10
Target Wagon Eve(3)acryon (1978), Titus (1979), skitter30 (2014) Titus(3)The Limit Does Not Exist (1635), BBmolla (1903), Auro (2034) acryon(2)Atarashi Hajimari (1660), Eve (1956) Not Voting(1)GuiltyLion (1780)
With 9 alive, it takes 5 to lynch. The Day 2 deadline is in (expired on 2020-05-14 17:47:59).
Look at these votes. GuiltyLion will sheep anything, but an Eve vote.In post 2100, northsidegal wrote:Votecount 2.11
Target Wagon Eve(3)acryon (1978), Titus (1979), skitter30 (2014) acryon(3)Atarashi Hajimari (1660), Eve (1956), GuiltyLion (2094) Titus(2)The Limit Does Not Exist (1635), BBmolla (1903) Not Voting(1)Auro (2051)
With 9 alive, it takes 5 to lynch. The Day 2 deadline is in (expired on 2020-05-14 17:47:59).ShowThe scum had the misfortune of Titus being absurdly accurate on day one.Really quite impressed by that.~Drixx
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sorry I still haven't reread the game and had time to effort yet and I've been putting that off
my gut is telling me Titus is town here, or at least more town than Skitter, but I do actually want to reread
Titus - regarding your latest post, yes, I thought Eve was town, and did not want to vote there. That doesn't make me scum."I think I no longer believe in monsters as faces in the floor or feral infants or vampires or whatever. I think at seventeen now I believe the only real monsters might be the type of liar where there's simply no way to tell. The ones who give nothing away"-
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this is basically where my head is at right now, but I want to do my homework cause I'm not quite sure either Skitter/Titus or Skitter/Eve teams feel like they make perfect sense to me
we've only had mislynches and the TA was shot n1, this game is going pretty well for scum rn lmaoIn post 2178, Titus wrote:I just feel that strongly I am not wrong. The Skitter in team mafia was competent and carried. This skitter is not a carry at all."I think I no longer believe in monsters as faces in the floor or feral infants or vampires or whatever. I think at seventeen now I believe the only real monsters might be the type of liar where there's simply no way to tell. The ones who give nothing away"-
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notable early game skit/eve interactions
I feel it's less likely skit indirectly defends a buddy this wayIn post 96, skitter30 wrote:
what are you thinking about their entrance?In post 93, nomnomnom wrote:That awkward moment when to want to vote and unvote someone at the same time.
Blergh
VOTE: Eve let's see what happens here
this would be a whole lotta theater, especially the end:
Spoiler:
also worth noting the question about Eve's recent scum game never really went anywhere
^this is sneaky sly if this is S talking about SIn post 254, skitter30 wrote: i was thinking of voting allo but i was kinda getting the vibe that if did l-1 eve might lolhammer and don't think we're quite ready for that yet"I think I no longer believe in monsters as faces in the floor or feral infants or vampires or whatever. I think at seventeen now I believe the only real monsters might be the type of liar where there's simply no way to tell. The ones who give nothing away"-
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also bold... but feels more likely IMO than some of the skit/eve interactions being theaterIn post 263, skitter30 wrote:
oh this is an interesting take, why is that?In post 260, BBmolla wrote:I don't think Rex and Skitter are scum together"I think I no longer believe in monsters as faces in the floor or feral infants or vampires or whatever. I think at seventeen now I believe the only real monsters might be the type of liar where there's simply no way to tell. The ones who give nothing away"-
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In post 485, skitter30 wrote:
this all at once sounds: svs, wishy-washy, and throwing in platitudes to try to prevent an allo lynch (which isn't imminently happening anyways ...)In post 371, SausasaurusRex wrote:I don’t think we should follow through with the allomancer lynch. Whilst his ISO isn’tgood, it’s not terrible either. I think the best course of action is to scumhunt a little more first, to see if anyone else seems more scummy. We have a deadline, and we may as well use all that time. If allomancer still seems the scummiest after that time, then we can lynch him. But my point is that we shouldn’t lynch him yet.
man I forgot how weird this progression wasIn post 489, skitter30 wrote:
i think they're being disingenuous, yeahIn post 408, Auro wrote:
Really? You don't think they could be reading things wrongly, Rex?In post 406, SausasaurusRex wrote:Whilst I feel that TheLimitDoesNotExist is clearly mafia
You're 100% sure they're being disingenuous and not that there's a miscommunication somewhere?
sauce is fine, i think
i think he seems to be a 'slow and steady' sort of player who wants to utilize the full time as much as possible, which is why he told us to slow our horses on allo and even now he's saying that he isn't advocating a limit lynch right now
his allo push was bad but he exhibited the same mindset in ... all three of his stated lynch/scum options (eve, allo, and limit), so i think that this is just how he approaches the game and how he feels about the best way to use our time
smart is shading your townbloc strategy, and smarter is misrepping people to push them
and smart is also a lot more passive than i'd expect him to be"I think I no longer believe in monsters as faces in the floor or feral infants or vampires or whatever. I think at seventeen now I believe the only real monsters might be the type of liar where there's simply no way to tell. The ones who give nothing away"-
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I generally feel like Auro died for two reasons
1) he was hard pushing Skit
2) so Titus could make the VCA argument above
there's really no reason not to shoot Limit over Auro here unless Auro specifically was pushing scum"I think I no longer believe in monsters as faces in the floor or feral infants or vampires or whatever. I think at seventeen now I believe the only real monsters might be the type of liar where there's simply no way to tell. The ones who give nothing away"-
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My argument largely remains the same with an Auro or Limit kill.In post 2188, GuiltyLion wrote:I generally feel like Auro died for two reasons
1) he was hard pushing Skit
2) so Titus could make the VCA argument above
there's really no reason not to shoot Limit over Auro here unless Auro specifically was pushing scum
This still doesn't explain you sheeping every wagon but the one on Eve.
There's also a dramatic difference between how you responded to me versus how Molla did. His frustration feels genuine, like we misunderstood him. Yours is just there for the sake of pushing me and skitter.
Auro and I also had worked things out. That meant no one was going to lynch Auro.ShowThe scum had the misfortune of Titus being absurdly accurate on day one.Really quite impressed by that.~Drixx
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Mod: Please replace me with Tiger Shark. It's a hydra of me and Shark.ShowThe scum had the misfortune of Titus being absurdly accurate on day one.Really quite impressed by that.~Drixx
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i mean, that presupposes you're town tho ...In post 2182, Eve wrote:so me being town basically shows scum are deepwolfing and didn't care about the lynches on those days
VOTE: skitter
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for like the sixth time, i can think someone's post is bad but at the same time disagree with why/how they're being pushed.In post 2187, GuiltyLion wrote:man I forgot how weird this progression was
i've also brought this up several times before wrt to me/titus being teamed (and it's never been addressed), but i think it's kinda unlikely that i would have chosen to pick a fight with limit their in order to defend my lynchbait partner that i could/would have just bussed.
i think that the me/titus teamreadings are pretty silly and a bit frustrating for a few different reasons:
1. i think that she's town. misguided town, sure, but i really, really don't think she's scum here.
2. i really can't imagine a universe where i go out on a limb to defend sauce in those circumstances
3. i would not have been defending her slot yesterday when she repped into a scumread slot.
i don't think i've ever interacted with a partner that way and i can't imagine why i would have chosen to start here like this
and even eve/me would be pretty gutsy because i've spent quite a bit of time trying to get her lynched yesterday (over the dead-easy lolmislynch that happened), and that's who i quite vocally prefer today
like who am i even partnered with here ... ?
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is this primarily what changed between yesterday and today wrt your read on me?In post 2188, GuiltyLion wrote:I generally feel like Auro died for two reasons
1) he was hard pushing Skit
2) so Titus could make the VCA argument above
there's really no reason not to shoot Limit over Auro here unless Auro specifically was pushing scum
1. if i were scum here i think i would have kept him alive unless i were scum with exactly titus because i'm pretty sure i could have gotten him to rally around her first over me. like i guess if i were scum with titus i could see this argument given he would have had figured out the scumteam exactly but i know that's wrong so ...
also i think that given how the acryon wagon went down he would have lost some of his credibility if he'd have lived; if scum!me were worried about someone with influence successfully pushing me to a lynch, i would have killed limit i think
like when deciding who to nk scum!me focuses more on gauging various players and their in-thread influence and where they're liable to vote and how much support they can get than on who is suspecting me in particular
2. i think she could have made that argument with or without auro being alive; auro dying really doesn't make it any weaker or strongerShowHiatus once more.
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The case on skitter is that her play is not very dynamic, it's reactive in a way that I've seen scum-skitter play before (sure she has a rep as a strong scumplayer, but I would say that she played a middling scumgame when we played before), and if you're town, her defense of you is unfounded and feels forced, which makes it look like a TMI.In post 2178, Titus wrote:How about you case Skitter without stating in general her play sucks or PoE?
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ba… by... SHARK DOO DOO, DOO DOO DA DOO
(Sorry)
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This too.In post 2188, GuiltyLion wrote:there's really no reason not to shoot Limit over Auro here unless Auro specifically was pushing scum
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Well, that's false. Scum could have killed Auro specifically so they could make that argument
But that would require GL to be scum which I doubt.
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