Mini 2136 | City That Never Sleeps [Game over!]

[The Limit Does Not Exist]

Who is Eve's partner exactly if it's not GL...? He's let up on my slot now that I've replaced in. I'm a necessary mislynch for them to win I think

I can answer this question, but you're not going to like it...

-Smart

[GuiltyLion]

It makes a lot of sense, I think

because you (MT), Skit, and myself all feel genuinely confused in a way I think is hard for scum to fake

whereas Titus just has these convictions that she's pushing regardless of when the evidence does or doesn't suit

and I think Auro was right with the Saus slip and that would be a good explanation for him being killed too

[skitter30]

Titus and eve dont really make much sense imo for much thr same reasons why me/eve dont make much sense: she'd had to have decided like mid-day2 to lolbus her partner when i think that move was largely unnecessary

[GuiltyLion]

Given the game state though, from my POV if Eve is scum then her partner is either Molla or definitely bussing hard

also I don't think Titus actually pushed Eve all that hard? She was always pushing me first and foremost, then compromised on Acryon last minute. At what point was she 'lolbussing' at the point where Eve was in danger of lynch? I'ma check the VCs again maybe I'm not remembering

[Morning Tweet]

Who is Eve's partner exactly if it's not GL...? He's let up on my slot now that I've replaced in. I'm a necessary mislynch for them to win I think

I can answer this question, but you're not going to like it...

-Smart

Titus and eve dont really make much sense imo for much thr same reasons why me/eve dont make much sense: she'd had to have decided like mid-day2 to lolbus her partner when i think that move was largely unnecessary

If we lynch Eve and she flips red, skitts dies, we mislynch GL, BB dies, and the LYLO is Limit/Titus/Morning, would you guys find that even slightly suspicious?

Skitts isn't partnered with Eve, Limit hopefully is town so no, BB unlikely to be partnered with Eve, and I'm not partnered with Eve

I think the only other partner to Eve besides GL is Titus, and Titus' hardbus on Eve + scumread on GL perfectly sets her up for this 3p LYLO. I don't think the move was unnecessary if it results in victory

But this is a way more complicated and overthinking it sort of solve than just GL/Eve or skitts/Titus

[GuiltyLion]

actually these VCs are pretty interesting - Eve seems to hop from Titus to Acryon whenever the Titus lynch is looking most viable

it's true that Titus is pretty consistently on Eve but I think it may have been clear there was enough resistance to Eve from my slot and other that it wasn't going through, especially once Atari was hard pushing the acryon case

Votecount 2.4

Target	Wagon
Karnage (2)	skitter30 (1312), GuiltyLion (1313)
Titus (2)	acryon (1427), BBmolla (1447)
skitter30 (1)	Eve (1317)
Not Voting (4)	Titus, The Limit Does Not Exist, Karnage, Auro

With 9 alive, it takes 5 to lynch. The Day 2 deadline is in (expired on 2020-05-14 17:47:59).

Votecount 2.5

Target	Wagon
Karnage (2)	skitter30 (1312), GuiltyLion (1313)
Titus (2)	acryon (1427), BBmolla (1447)
skitter30 (1)	Eve (1317)
GuiltyLion (1)	Titus (1514)
Not Voting (3)	The Limit Does Not Exist, Karnage, Auro

With 9 alive, it takes 5 to lynch. The Day 2 deadline is in (expired on 2020-05-14 17:47:59).

Votecount 2.6

Target	Wagon
Atarashi Hajimari (2)	skitter30 (1312), GuiltyLion (1313)
Titus (2)	acryon (1427), BBmolla (1447)
skitter30 (1)	Eve (1317)
GuiltyLion (1)	Titus (1514)
Not Voting (3)	The Limit Does Not Exist, Atarashi Hajimari, Auro

With 9 alive, it takes 5 to lynch. The Day 2 deadline is in (expired on 2020-05-14 17:47:59).

Votecount 2.7

Target	Wagon
Titus (3)	The Limit Does Not Exist (1635), Eve (1847), BBmolla (1903)
acryon (2)	Atarashi Hajimari (1660), Auro (1929)
GuiltyLion (1)	Titus (1514)
Not Voting (3)	GuiltyLion (1780), acryon (1820), skitter30 (1877)

With 9 alive, it takes 5 to lynch. The Day 2 deadline is in (expired on 2020-05-14 17:47:59).

Votecount 2.8

Target	Wagon
acryon (3)	Atarashi Hajimari (1660), Auro (1929), Eve (1956)
Titus (2)	The Limit Does Not Exist (1635), BBmolla (1903)
Eve (2)	acryon (1978), Titus (1979)
Not Voting (2)	GuiltyLion (1780), skitter30 (1877)

With 9 alive, it takes 5 to lynch. The Day 2 deadline is in (expired on 2020-05-14 17:47:59).

Votecount 2.9

Target	Wagon
acryon (3)	Atarashi Hajimari (1660), Auro (1929), Eve (1956)
Eve (3)	acryon (1978), Titus (1979), skitter30 (2014)
Titus (2)	The Limit Does Not Exist (1635), BBmolla (1903)
Not Voting (1)	GuiltyLion (1780)

With 9 alive, it takes 5 to lynch. The Day 2 deadline is in (expired on 2020-05-14 17:47:59).

Votecount 2.10

Target	Wagon
Eve (3)	acryon (1978), Titus (1979), skitter30 (2014)
Titus (3)	The Limit Does Not Exist (1635), BBmolla (1903), Auro (2034)
acryon (2)	Atarashi Hajimari (1660), Eve (1956)
Not Voting (1)	GuiltyLion (1780)

With 9 alive, it takes 5 to lynch. The Day 2 deadline is in (expired on 2020-05-14 17:47:59).

Votecount 2.11

Target	Wagon
Eve (3)	acryon (1978), Titus (1979), skitter30 (2014)
acryon (3)	Atarashi Hajimari (1660), Eve (1956), GuiltyLion (2094)
Titus (2)	The Limit Does Not Exist (1635), BBmolla (1903)
Not Voting (1)	Auro (2051)

With 9 alive, it takes 5 to lynch. The Day 2 deadline is in (expired on 2020-05-14 17:47:59).

Votecount 2.12

Target	Wagon
acryon (4)	Atarashi Hajimari (1660), Eve (1956), GuiltyLion (2094), Auro (2104)
Eve (3)	acryon (1978), Titus (1979), skitter30 (2014)
Titus (2)	The Limit Does Not Exist (1635), BBmolla (1903)
Not Voting (0)

With 9 alive, it takes 5 to lynch. The Day 2 deadline is in (expired on 2020-05-14 17:47:59).

Votecount 2.Final

Target	Wagon
acryon (5)	Atarashi Hajimari (1660), Eve (1956), GuiltyLion (2094), Auro (2104), Titus (2129)
Eve (2)	acryon (1978), skitter30 (2014)
Titus (2)	The Limit Does Not Exist (1635), BBmolla (1903)
Not Voting (0)

With 9 alive, it takes 5 to lynch. acryon has been lynched.

[Eve]

I really don't know who Eve's partner is

given how MT and Skit and Limit are talking, it's clear I'm to be the next lynch if Eve flips scum

which is fine and I actually would insist on being lynched first in that case but godspeed to whoever gets into 3p LYLO

yikes

[Eve]

maybe the reason i don't make sense with anyone is because i'm town

did you ever think of that?

[Morning Tweet]

Given the game state though, from my POV if Eve is scum then her partner is either Molla or definitely bussing hard

also I don't think Titus actually pushed Eve all that hard? She was always pushing me first and foremost, then compromised on Acryon last minute. At what point was she 'lolbussing' at the point where Eve was in danger of lynch? I'ma check the VCs again maybe I'm not remembering

Like even BB is basically giving her the death sentence out of nowhere today

I think probably starting today the Eve push got most serious. At least that's how I have it in my mind. The perfect time to bus

However I'm feeling shaky about Titus/Eve because of Rex's interactions with Eve. She was his #1-#2 suspect all of day 1

[The Limit Does Not Exist]

If we lynch Eve and she flips red, skitts dies, we mislynch GL, BB dies, and the LYLO is Limit/Titus/Morning, would you guys find that even slightly suspicious?

I really can't imagine the benefit to answering this question now.

-Smart

[Morning Tweet]

I really don't know who Eve's partner is

given how MT and Skit and Limit are talking, it's clear I'm to be the next lynch if Eve flips scum

which is fine and I actually would insist on being lynched first in that case but godspeed to whoever gets into 3p LYLO

yikes

why yikes

[GuiltyLion]

maybe the reason i don't make sense with anyone is because i'm town

did you ever think of that?

yeah I did and that's why I was pushing Skitter for a lot of the day as well

like come on

[GuiltyLion]

MT what do you think of Auro's argument about Rex's inconsistency between his reasons for backing off of Allo?

[Eve]

I really don't know who Eve's partner is

given how MT and Skit and Limit are talking, it's clear I'm to be the next lynch if Eve flips scum

which is fine and I actually would insist on being lynched first in that case but godspeed to whoever gets into 3p LYLO

yikes

why yikes

obvious isn't it? it's always preferable to want to lynch scum over yourself (confirmed town) there

if he's arguing the fact he doesn't want to risk mislynching town and then being the game losing mislynch in 3p lylo - that logic doesn't check out either since you still have 1 lynch that could hit scum + 1 that is probably you but you can still have a chance of convincing the others

[GuiltyLion]

if he's arguing the fact he doesn't want to risk mislynching town and then being the game losing mislynch in 3p lylo - that logic doesn't check out either since you still have 1 lynch that could hit scum + 1 that is probably you but you can still have a chance of convincing the others

no I'd really rather die and have people look at all my thoughts and engagements with knowledge that I'm town, I think that'd give us a higher chance of winning at this point assuming you are scum

[Eve]

[Eve]

if he's arguing the fact he doesn't want to risk mislynching town and then being the game losing mislynch in 3p lylo - that logic doesn't check out either since you still have 1 lynch that could hit scum + 1 that is probably you but you can still have a chance of convincing the others

no I'd really rather die and have people look at all my thoughts and engagements with knowledge that I'm town, I think that'd give us a higher chance of winning at this point assuming you are scum

why? why not have everyone listen to your thoughts/engagements and lynch someone that isn't you in 5p? and then you at least get another chance in 3p

[GuiltyLion]

idk it doesn't feel likely that town is going to allow me to lynch both Titus and Skitter (which is what it would take to be auto FMPOV rn) and if they have to choose correctly between Titus/Skitter then I wanna be dead first so they can look through all my interactions with both slots

[GuiltyLion]

and the same thing goes for MT as well, but I'm kinda wanting to go back to calling MT town again because a lot of their solving here has felt very genuine and unnecessary if they're scum AND I do still think Atari's play was way beyond his scum range and rereading his ISO the other day reminded me of that

[Morning Tweet]

I really don't know who Eve's partner is

given how MT and Skit and Limit are talking, it's clear I'm to be the next lynch if Eve flips scum

which is fine and I actually would insist on being lynched first in that case but godspeed to whoever gets into 3p LYLO

yikes

why yikes

obvious isn't it? it's always preferable to want to lynch scum over yourself (confirmed town) there

if he's arguing the fact he doesn't want to risk mislynching town and then being the game losing mislynch in 3p lylo - that logic doesn't check out either since you still have 1 lynch that could hit scum + 1 that is probably you but you can still have a chance of convincing the others

I feel like if we lynched someone other than Guilty in 5p lylo (after eve scum flip) and they flipped town, GL would be taken to 3p lylo guaranteed. That is really bad news for town!GL cause he is almost certainly going to be lynched there. so i get what he means

It'd probably be better to lynch GL in 5p because in the thread's view, he's your most likely partner, but from his PoV, he isn't so it'd be game over if he made it to 3p and the last day was a mislynch. and yeah as he mentioned he'd like for the game to view him as town!GL in the 3p lylo and hear his thoughts objectively

[Eve]

alright well as long as you lynch skitter tomorrow first you can hopefully work it out in 3p

[Morning Tweet]

and the same thing goes for MT as well, but I'm kinda wanting to go back to calling MT town again because a lot of their solving here has felt very genuine and unnecessary if they're scum AND I do still think Atari's play was way beyond his scum range and rereading his ISO the other day reminded me of that

Are you down to Titus/Skitts and Eve/Titus now then? Are there any other significant possibilities you're considering?

My reads kinda want you to be town too, so if i were to assume you're town, then those would be my last options as well

[The Limit Does Not Exist]

alright well as long as you lynch skitter tomorrow first you can hopefully work it out in 3p

I imagine if you're town it's probably just skitter Titus.

-Smart

[GuiltyLion]

and the same thing goes for MT as well, but I'm kinda wanting to go back to calling MT town again because a lot of their solving here has felt very genuine and unnecessary if they're scum AND I do still think Atari's play was way beyond his scum range and rereading his ISO the other day reminded me of that

Are you down to Titus/Skitts and Eve/Titus now then? Are there any other significant possibilities you're considering?

My reads kinda want you to be town too, so if i were to assume you're town, then those would be my last options as well

yeah I think those two solves make the most sense to me

I think Eve/Skitter is definitely 1T1S in some fashion

and I think I find Eve individually a liiiittle bit scummier than Skitter (though I have been waffling on this constantly) and her lynch is more supported by the Townreads so I'm good with it at this point

the only possibility that really scares me is scum!Molla but I'm in the same boat of like, there's not really any good reason to think he's scum and there have been a few moments where he's felt super genuine

did you respond to my question about Auro's case on Rex regarding him suggesting he saw the soft then later denying that he saw the soft?

[GuiltyLion]

I also think the longer this day has gone on the less it's felt like Titus is really here trying to solve with the rest of the homies

like she just pops in and makes these one off comments with little to no re-evaluation or acknowledging of new content, her last push on Eve was super disingenuous and she didn't acknowledge how she misread the post, Skit at least does feel like she's been engaged throughout