Mini Theme 2145: The Weakest Link Game over

[beeboy]

This is town town this game sucks.

[SirCakez]

my town flip will help get scum starbuck and TSE lynched at least

[midwaybear]

sircakez tone really feels like a resigned townie
and how are we supposed to use unwnd's role in our favor? I still don't trust him
pedit: lynch unwnd

[beeboy]

i figured out unwnd was town 2 seconds ago and danced around my cakez read too much >:(

[SirCakez]

unwnd's role claim just feels reallly real to me, as someone who did a lot of game designing recently
like it fits into the setup perfectly

[beeboy]

Honestly unwnd is the one less likely to be lynched sometime down the line.
=| sorry cakez.

[Dunnstral]

Catching up, I've read some parts

SirCakez feels town right now; I'd lynch Unwnd personally, the claimed role isn't

that

useful in any case

[SirCakez]

and the "inserting 3rd line into scum role" theory just seems overwrought to me
it would be easier to just claim VT than to risk this much attention

[Dunnstral]

Honestly unwnd is the one less likely to be lynched sometime down the line.
=| sorry cakez.

You think so?

[Dunnstral]

sircakez tone really feels like a resigned townie
and how are we supposed to use unwnd's role in our favor? I still don't trust him
pedit: lynch unwnd

Basically the same post as me as I was typing out my post

This is towny to me

[midwaybear]

i guess unwnd can change beeboy's quiz once, but that doesn't seem that useful.
I prefer keeping cakez
TSE is probably scum now

[SirCakez]

Yeah TSE has slithered out and now disappeared ofc

[SirCakez]

slithered out of being the end of the chain*

[unwnd]

Alright so

Beeboy I have a minor headache but I'll try to go over my own thought processes about the quiz and how my role works in relation to it.

Generally speaking, I don't think the quiz mechanic works where it is always beneficial for town to pass it. That just seems very backwards to me, especially because if town should never fail it, why are they given the option to do so? Think about it. If it's always town to vote pass there shouldn't be the option to vote fail in the first place. On the flipside, if scum only has to invade a quiz and vote fail, why would they ever pass it?

If I'm looking at it one way, a scum may pass a vote just to give town a false sense of security. This doesn't seem entirely right however in my head, especially with my role existing. It has to be a give and take scenario. I talked about this but let me bold for anyone not listening:

The people in the quiz are notified of the benefits/disadvantages based on if the quiz passes or fails. This was confirmed with the mod.

I heard someone say we'd get the quiz results on how many people voted pass/fail? That's just inherently busted. Why would scum ever vote fail if town is given the option to PoE them immediately.

[Dunnstral]

Townies do not automatically pass the quiz.

4) Privately you must pm me if you pass or fail the quiz. If you don't do this the quiz will automatically fail.

[NDMath]

I believe the claim. I don't see what was wrong with it beyond weird phrasing.
Utility wise, if they use it tonight and quiz fails we have a pool of four people instead of five where we know scum exists.

If sircakez is town, which he seems to be considering he's defending unwnd more than anyone else and that's not what scum would/should be doing in his position, I need to hit the reset button on my reads.

[unwnd]

Townies do not automatically pass the quiz.

4) Privately you must pm me if you pass or fail the quiz. If you don't do this the quiz will automatically fail.

You're just making my point stronger you know that right? Read what I'm arguing: Townies shouldn't be given the option to sabotage themselves.

[MariaR]

For clairfaction sake. Town can not 'fail' the quiz. They can only pass it. However at night they still must pm me that they pass the quiz.

[Dunnstral]

For clairfaction sake. Town can not 'fail' the quiz. They can only pass it. However at night they still must pm me that they pass the quiz.

...and if they don't pm you, the quiz fails?

So they

can

fail the quiz?

[unwnd]

Yes it seems like someone can still abstain from their vote by negligence

[NDMath]

Would that suggest the order in which they pass the quiz matters or something like that?

[midwaybear]

no
i think we should still keep cakez(sorry unwnd)

[Dunnstral]

Townies do not automatically pass the quiz.

4) Privately you must pm me if you pass or fail the quiz. If you don't do this the quiz will automatically fail.

You're just making my point stronger you know that right? Read what I'm arguing: Townies shouldn't be given the option to sabotage themselves.

Meh, it seems like if somebody doesn't vote the quiz automatically fails regardless of what you'd make them vote though

[beeboy]

Dunnstral why would a town want to fail and not send a pm.

[unwnd]

4) Privately you must pm me if you pass or fail the quiz. If you don't do this the quiz will automatically fail.

This is where I'm confused but now asking the mod a few things it seems that my role works where if a scum invades a quiz I can force them to vote yes

But part of my own seated paranoia tells me it's not that simple