Large Normal 228: Bananas - Game Over

[Titus]

gonna go ahead and plug that i actually think manatee was a decent lynch, for the post i highlighted (536, reasons in 630). if this flips town should seriously look at how that wagon got derailed.

+1

[Black Ranger]

Disagree that 536 is a bad post. It references Norwegian saying to lynch cakez and end day and cakez didnt do anything besides say "bad post" and name drops umlaut for disliking it as well (???) which is somehow meant to make his post more convincing? 387 for those wondering. It kicked off a boring wagon built off this single post which always read like a scum wagon.

[gobbledygook]

VC 1.19

Fenraiser
osuka
NorwegianBoyEE (1) - Drew-STA
ManateeDude (1) - SirCakez
Black Ranger
bob3141
Wake88
fwogcarf
Umlaut
Titus

Drew-Sta (8) - osuka, ManateeDude, Umlaut, Titus, NorwegianboyEE, Fenraiser, bob3141, Nahdia [L-0]

CantLynchAPuppy
SirCakez (1) - CantLynchAPuppy
Nahdia (1) - Black Ranger

Not Voting

(1) - Wake88

With 14 alive, it takes 8 to lynch.

Deadline

: (expired on 2020-06-09 12:00:00)
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Drew-Sta,

Mafia Neapolitan

, has been killed Day 1!

Night ends in 48 hours.
(expired on 2020-06-11 13:00:00)

[gobbledygook]

bob3141,

Town Rolecop

, has been killed Night 1!

Spoiler: Town Rolecop

Rolecop

You are a

Rolecop

Abilities:

Rolecop - Each night, you may target a player to learn their role. If successful, you will learn that player's role (but not their alignment).

Win condition:

You win when all threats to the town have been eliminated and there is at least one town player alive.

Game Thread is located here.

Please confirm by responding to this PM with your role and alignment

osuka,

Town Nurse

, has been killed Night 1!

Spoiler: Town Nurse

Nurse

You are a

Nurse

Abilities:

Nurse - If a doctor dies while you are still alive, you will become a doctor.

Win condition:

You win when all threats to the town have been eliminated and there is at least one town player alive.

Game Thread is located here.

Please confirm by responding to this PM with your role and alignment

VC 2.0

Fenraiser
NorwegianboyEE
ManateeDude
Black Ranger
Wake88
fwogcarf
Umlaut
Titus
CantLynchAPuppy
SirCakez
Nahdia

Not Voting

(11) - Fenraiser, NorwegianBoyEE, ManateeDude, Black Ranger, Wake88, fwogcarf, Umlaut, Titus, CantLynchAPuppy, SirCakez, Nahdia

With 11 alive, it takes 6 to lynch.

Titus is VLA.
Moderator is very sick and so vote counts will be reduced. I apologize. Thank you for those who messaged me about errors. Much appreciated.

Deadline

: (expired on 2020-06-22 08:00:00)[/color]

[Umlaut]

Well, at least I don't have to be paranoid about Bob's claim now.

[Umlaut]

I say we lynch off the Drew wagon today. It's possible someone bused but it's also very likely someone didn't.

VOTE: Black Ranger

Try to hide the scum pm next time.

Wow, you are already succeeding at being a bigger pain in the ass! Way to follow through.

Where was this willingness to lynch drew when it mattered? Because some end of day show that you would

totally lynch Drew guys

doesn't mean shit to anyone.

A lot of Black Ranger's response to the wagon looks bad to me, but this looks worst of all. Stripping out the rhetoric, the message of this post is twofold:

• It's too late to lynch Drew-Sta, so don't bother trying; and
  
• Umlaut isn't
  really
  willing to lynch Drew-Sta, he's just trying to get town cred by pretending.

The goal of the former message, insofar as it has one, is to prevent anyone else from moving to the Drew wagon. But the latter message only makes sense if Black Ranger thinks Drew-Sta is scum. So the overall goal of this message is "prevent people from trying to lynch someone I think is scum." A much better response if you as town think I'm scum trying to pseudo-bus my partner at the last second would be to call my bluff by voting him, and that's something Black Ranger never did.

[Wake1]

I've got some thoughts on this game now.

Planning to post sometime tonight. Had to take photos of each post so I didn't miss them. Also writing an essay for school, so that (and the new job orientation) is tying up my hands. I can still contribute, but I can't hyperfocus and write walls and super-engage at the moment.

[Umlaut]

Moderator is very sick and so vote counts will be reduced. I apologize.

No apology necessary, take care of yourself!

[Fenraiser]

First time I lived past N1 on Mafiascum. Super glad.

I am also going to assume we have a 3rd party btw (BRs set-up analysis also gives me this impression). I do not see a vigilante shooting osuka given how osuka was pretty much consensus townread.

Gonna reread EOD in a bit and Umlaut's recent points.

[Fenraiser]

By a bit I mean ~6 hours because Im closing at work.

[Wake1]

I have no idea if this game is multiball or not, but until I see via flip a 2nd Scum faction I'm not vested in discussing it.

[Wake1]

OK, so I've got some thoughts.

fwogcarf in 429 was alright with lynching drew. Seems like it's from a Town perspective. However if this game is multiball this take goes out the window.

Assuming it's not multiball I'm Townreading Black Ranger for his vote (first on the wagon of drew) in 453.

Scum-Drew (with 1 vote) voted NorwegianboyEE in 473. Drew kept that vote on him until his lynch. This makes me currently think Drew and NorwegianboyEE aren't on the same team.

I also see that he was keen on being opportunistic over my activity-level in 474.

I feel better about Black Ranger at the moment. Slightly less so on fwogcarf and NorwegianboyEE, but still slightly in the green.

[Titus]

Hey I am VLA. Doing work stuff. I should be back soon.

@Wake, how do you feel about BR not getting on the Drew wagon at EoD?

[Wake1]

Hey I am VLA. Doing work stuff. I should be back soon.

@Wake, how do you feel about BR not getting on the Drew wagon at EoD?

Oh.

I did not catch that.

[SirCakez]

Ok so I'm aware I don't look great here
That said I want to go here
VOTE: wake

Also I find it hilarious that bob and osuka were both town

[CantHateAPuppy]

Sorry I completely missed EOD, I got busy and didn't get to check in until thread was locked. Admit I probably would not have lynched Drew, so it's a good thing I wasn't in charge

Need a little time to catch up, they've got me working at the office right now. Any Q's just ask

[fwogcarf]

Well, at least I don't have to be paranoid about Bob's claim now.

Sir this is a bad post

[fwogcarf]

I'm gonna guess Bob was the maf kill, but why does vig shoot osuka?

[Titus]

I'm gonna guess Bob was the maf kill, but why does vig shoot osuka?

It could be an SK or second scumteam. I am thinking SK atm. If I am wrong, the vig should come forward so we can leash it given it shot consensus town with its hero shot.

[NorwegianboyEE]

That picture By the OP reminds me of soneone in this playerlist.

[NorwegianboyEE]

Probably not mafia+vig based on that shot.
Mafia+SK i think.

[Titus]

VOTE: BR

Umlaut makes an excellent point.

[fwogcarf]

I'm gonna guess Bob was the maf kill, but why does vig shoot osuka?

It could be an SK or second scumteam. I am thinking SK atm. If I am wrong, the vig should come forward so we can leash it given it shot consensus town with its hero shot.

I doubt it would be a second scumteam unless it's two pairs of wolves, which would make towns job a lot easier in my opinion.

I dont see SKs in games often because it makes games less fun, but then again this is a different site I'm playing on

[Nahdia]

now that the game has ended, i can give some more context for my manatee read. i normally dont like meta but this feels contradictory:

Cakez's random "bad post" pop ins have been one ping for me. I also pointed out him miscontruing norwees words in an attempt to omgus.

he also literally said that bc he knows hes town that he automatically reads the push on him as scummy.. as if thats reasonable at all.

yeah? you seemed v understanding in those 1st two - what changed?

Just a part of my meta im self aware of. Despite responding cordially to your push I still am aware of my own bias against people pushing me

in one game, town!manatee admits he has a bias towards people scumreading him, because he knows he's town. in the next game, manatee scumreads someone for pretty much that exact mindset, calling it unreasonable.

[ManateeDude]

Nahdia those contexts are completely different though... one was someone asking me about my read and I gave a tentative read while admitting that bias might play a part in it.

Cakez said because hes town people pushing him automatically makes him suspicious of their slot